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saw it the other day and felt that they had too much going on,my friend said the story line looked like it was going somewhere but it instead had a plot twist.
the film had a lot of special effects and it should have focoused more on character development so when they died we were sad for them yeah some people died
IMO the film was made better by either by having read some of the comics or the cartoon for adequit character development.
Transformers? Character development? Why? Thats valuable minutes that would be taken away from Megan Fox and/or killer robot action.
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Frazzled wrote:Transformers? Character development? Why? Thats valuable minutes that would be taken away from Megan Fox and/or killer robot action.
Hear Hear I knew what I was getting with Transformers, if I wanted it to be like the cartoon I would just watch the cartoon/animated movie. If it was going to be a big summer blockbuster I wanted Giant Robots beating seven shades out of each other and Megan Fox's boobs and backside in as many shots as possible.
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Okay, you didn't like the movie. I understand that. But please, do me us a favor. There is a rather large button on your keybord. If you're Keyboard looks in any way like mine, it should be right next to the # symbol. There's a l-shaped arrow on it. Next time you write more than 3 sentences, try to use it from time to time. Thanks.
If we're honestly gonna complain about how i wrote my paragraph, then lets do assume we are using the exact same keyboard. On mine theres something to the LEFT of the Q button, its got a TAB over two arrows.
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Terrible in every aspect. Literally plotless and characterless, with rampant stereotyping and misogyny. Some decent action beats, adding up to maybe a minute.
I didn't think it would be good. But I was shocked to find it colossally boring.
If you paid for this and you don't see Public Enemies, you should burn your pathetic DVD collection and probably sterilize yourself.
A critic called the film a death march, and he was being lenient.
Could had been made even better by shedding some of the unnecessary comic scenes, the bit with the mother in the college for example and the whole thing would have been better had it been about 30 minutes shorter. As MDK said a few too many transformers involved perhaps, as we didn't get much of a chance to meet them all. There was one Autobot who looked surprisingly like Jazz and transformed into a sports car but an introduction was never made.
That Sports Car was actually Sideswipe, if you remember the old comics/cartoons he was the Red Lambourghini twinned with Sunstreaker, the yellow one.
They actually DO directly call him Sideswipe, too. In the China scenes, one of the NEST Soldiers yells for Sideswipe and then BAM! We cut to Sideswipe "rollerskate" in and do his thing. In fact, the only Autobot they never actually name on screen is Blur(the blue car).
I, uh, paid WAY too much attention to this movie.
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Cryonicleech wrote:Anung, wasn't the Allspark Splinter stolen by the Decepticons? (don't know the name of the dog-thing)
That "dog-thing", as you put it, is a robot panther named Ravage, one of Soundwave's tapes from G1, and one of my favorite G1 robots, to boot.
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Jacksonhighlander wrote:So the poor dialogue didnt bother any of you? No one was bothered by poor character developement and the ton of extra robots that were just chunked in? Did anyone but me watch G1? Yea the fight scenes were orgasmic, but the story lacked alot imo. Hey guys, to make energon we need to blow up the sun WHILE WE'RE ON THE PLANET ASIT HAPPENS! Who cares if we cant live through the super nova to collect the stuff, atleast our decipticon ashes can go SCREW YOU to the human and autobot ones. And people got to do a fan vote of which transformer they wanted in the movie. Soundwave got it big time. How much air time did he get? Less than 5 minutes. One of the biggest badasses in the whole transformer series ever created, sits on a satelite, and does nothing except spit out Ravage to go kick ass. He was a god in G1. He looks like a wierdo with that beard and crown thingy going on. What was wrong with that knightly looking head he had before? His voice shouldve been way creepier. And all he does is watch and listen. You think when they railed gun Devestator, Soundwave couldve given him a heads up. AND THE FREAKIN TWINS WERE ROCKING DEVESTATOR! HOW THE HELL DOES THAT HAPPEN!?!?!?! And for everyone that didnt watch transformers before they probably dont even know that those construction cars/equipment whatever you wanna call them can transform into their own personal robot and then pop together to make Devestator. Thank god that the twins somehow disappeared for the last bits of the movie, and if they died why weren't we rewarded with their death? I bet people wouldve liked to have gotten more character developement from atleast the newly introduced autobots. That fallen dude was a freak too, they shouldve replaced him with the Quintisons. And at the end they throw in some stuff from transformers armada. WHY?!?! That show sucked. I feel that this movie didn't pay omage to transformers like the first one. Im not satisfied by only flashy lights and big explosions. This isnt something thats gonna make me watch it over and over again like the first one. Its like other awesome series. Aliens, first one you can watch over and over and not get tired of it. 3rd one makes you wanna cry by how badly the series was ruined. Predator, first one is totally nut busting. Second one, HE GETS KILLED BY AN OVER WEIGHT COP THAT PROBABLY CANT CATCH HIS SUSPECTS ON FOOT IF HE HAD TOO! IN LOFERS! WHY!?!?!?!?! If all we want is flashy lights and big booms what makes this any different than any other robot movie? Transformers was unique b/c of its humanistic characteristics that was made with the bots. And if the whole conflict is about collecting energon by blowing up a sun, how hard is it to make another one of those guns, and going to another solar system? They couldve skipped the whole being killed by prime part. Theres a countless number of stars, ours isnt any special. And im sure that the plans for making those sun killers is lying around somewhere.
Frankly I see a lot of things wrong with this.
1. I don't remember any of the Transformer Cartoons having much of a plot, other than the individual episodes needing a new reason for them to fight one another.
2. You are confusing Soundwave and Jetfire, Jetfire had the beard and the Crown thing cause he is the Frazz of the Transformers in the movies.
3. Devastator was a little preoccupied with eating what he was eating to be able to dodge a Rail Gun.
4. Fallen was fine, he hates humans, that's why he want our Sun they explain that in the movie. Not why he hates us mind you just that he does, sounds like how Transformers works to me.
5. Alien 3 did not ruin the franchise Alien Resurrection did that in many many more ways.
6. Predator 2 was fine
7. You want to see things that ruin franchises read the Alien vs Predator Comics, play the games, and then watch the Moives...
8. Take off your nostalgia glasses, its a good action movie, if you expected more the Rose tint has blinded you to what the Cartoon was, an Action Cartoon made to promote TOYS.
DEVASTATOR WAS EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I thought the twins were annoying, but a lot of American critics I read reviews from said it they were just offensive. Appearantly there's something rascist about them, but I didn't notice it in the German version.
BrotherStynier wrote:They claim them to be racist be cause they talk like "Gangstas" and cant read Cybertronian, which people think means they can't read at all.
Me I think they were a commentary on the American youth, where both Whites and Blacks speak like that and can be illiterate.
And had buck teeth (one had a gold tooth) and big ears.
Yeah to a US audience it was CRYSTAL CLEAR they were cliched black stereotypes.
BrotherStynier wrote:They claim them to be racist be cause they talk like "Gangstas" and cant read Cybertronian, which people think means they can't read at all.
Me I think they were a commentary on the American youth, where both Whites and Blacks speak like that and can be illiterate.
And had buck teeth (one had a gold tooth) and big ears.
Yeah to a US audience it was CRYSTAL CLEAR they were cliched black stereotypes.
Because obviously only Blacks can have big ears and buck teeth. And only Blacks can have gold teeth. Seriously people need to stop getting over zealous about things.
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Because obviously only Blacks can have big ears and buck teeth. And only Blacks can have gold teeth. Seriously people need to stop getting over zealous about things.
That's nothing. You should hear what some people here say about GTA4
Oh arr, and for those lacking the attention span, the Twins don't say they can't read, what they say is 'we don't read ancient Cybertronian too good;.
And being an English speaker, and English being a language evolved from Latin and Germanic, I suppose I'm an illiterate cretin for not being able to read or write either of the above?
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I'm black. And I found it pretty racist and offensive in ways that Jar Jar Binks could not even approach.
That said, I'm not joining the crusade to get the film pulled from theaters or anything (and yes, there is one of those going as we speak). It just makes me sad that, in 2009, racial stereotypes are STILL funny to Americans. (Don't even get me started on the first Transformers, in which Jazz literally break dances and "yo, yo, yo"s a couple of times before being the ONLY EFFING AUTOBOT to die...
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Me and the Boy watching Megan Fox's awesome "acting" ability. A true Father/Son bonding moment.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Xtapl, I feel your pain, but it's still better than the 80's. I listen to a lot of actors lament about the only roles given were the homosexual joke role, or the trademark death before the starting credits role. I didn't find Jazz any worse than every other black role where you have to say "yo yo yo" and break dance.
The twins were painful, for every Morgan Freeman, Densil Washington, and Will Smith, you get 10 of these bad roles. Still a lot better than the 80's though.
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole
And being an English speaker, and English being a language evolved from Latin and Germanic, I suppose I'm an illiterate cretin for not being able to read or write either of the above?
Yes yes you are. I mean those language have a common alphabet, grammar and vocabulary with English.
Try @#$#%ing Chinese some time then you can whine about how hard foreign languages are.
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Back on topic, the problem I had isn't 'racism' it's that the comic relief characters weren't funny. You can't just have a robot talk like a stereotypical gangbanger and call it comic gold. It's about as funny as a drunken Irish robot or a lazy Mexican robot or a horny leg-humping robot. Any y'know, if the comedy in a film ain't funny, that makes for a bad film.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Back on topic, the problem I had isn't 'racism' it's that the comic relief characters weren't funny. You can't just have a robot talk like a stereotypical gangbanger and call it comic gold. It's about as funny as a drunken Irish robot or a lazy Mexican robot or a horny leg-humping robot. Any y'know, if the comedy in a film ain't funny, that makes for a bad film.
That only really applies to a Comedy, which this wasn't sure they were comic relief characters that weren't that funny but if they alone ruin an action movie for you then perhaps you should learn not to base your opinion of said action movie off of comedy.
Isn't is wonderful that all these people have some place to vent their spleen over a movie? I've seen it three times and apparently I know enough to check my higher brain functions at the door and allow myself to be entertained. Who would you worthies rather have directed it, Ingmar Bergman? Anyway, the original Transformers cartoon sucked. I'm amazed that it occurred to anybody to make movies based on it, not to mention them coming out so good.
saw the movie earlier. the special effects were cool, the story was middle of the road to me, i didn't find it to be crap, but it wasn't something i'm going to have stick in my mind.
the twins....meh, i found the way they spoke irritating, but then i find that gansta rap speech style annoying in general.
kinda wish they'd introduced the autobot and decepticon characters a bit more, i mean, it wasn't like it was a short movie.
on a positive note, it did inspire me to wiki transformers and enjoy reading over stuff and seeing old toys i had forgotten about.
Man, I'd hate to see what stories are bottom of the barrel for you if Revenge of the Fallen was middle of the road. Revenge of the Fallen was one of the worst plot/stories I have ever seen in 30 years of moviegoing.
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warpcrafter wrote:I've seen it three times and apparently I know enough to check my higher brain functions at the door and allow myself to be entertained. Who would you worthies rather have directed it, Ingmar Bergman?
1) Maybe it is easier for some people to turn their brains off. They don't have as far to go.
2) There are gradations of films between Uwe Boll and Ingmar Bergman.
3) Like Die Hard.
4) Or Aliens.
5) Or Predator.
6) Or The Dark Knight.
7) Or The Bourne Identity.
8) Or any other dozens of decently made films which established a conflict, a plot, characters, and motivations before jumping into non-sensical action scenes.
The old "turn your brain off" excuse for ****ty cinema. Keep doing that. You do it long enough, you won't have to have ANY standards to be entertained. But based on seeing this turd three times, you might already be there.
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In case anyone is wondering, the above poster is of course internationally recognised as holding the minimal acceptable level of taste in cinema, hence why he is coming across as an arrogant bore who simply assumes all should agree with him, or they aren't worth bothering with.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:In case anyone is wondering, the above poster is of course internationally recognised as holding the minimal acceptable level of taste in cinema, hence why he is coming across as an arrogant bore who simply assumes all should agree with him, or they aren't worth bothering with.
I can't help being a bore. If I am arrogant for disliking a lowest common denominator turd because it is both plotless and brainless, that is a choice I'll happily make and an insult I'll happily bear.
It just tells you something about a movie when the most common defense is to "turn your brain off".
