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Flashman wrote:The Dark Eldar strategem in planetstrike is pretty characterful, more so than some of the other races.

Indeed your right... Dark eldar need something that makes them different from others... so perhaps giving them powerful leadership damaging attacks and abilities? Maybe even with some dark eldar abilities could negate all this fearless and "They shall know no fear" gibberish.. Seeing a dark eldar with year 41000+ bondage wear i think most would run screaming!

whitedragon wrote:

You think they have them on the shelves too?

Oh, you done it now, buddy-boy! Enjoy your new avatar.

I think a KKT might be in order too...

Man those new Dark Eldars greens are the hotness! I can't wait for them to be released!

Kungfuhustler wrote:FLGS. The models were re-packaged in the new style packaging as well.

So *that* is what GW has been working on for the past 10 years - new DE packaging!

Go GW!

Maybe the "Mystery Box" will be first printing DE Codices with a new, 5th Edition style cover?

I have no idea how to interpret this news. Seems like the kinda change they'd make to show support for an army that they really don't (currently) support. But if a new codex is just around the corner, they wouldn't bother reshipping old models.

My assumption is that they want people to see DE and know that they are, not only still in the game, but supported as well. GW repeatedly saying "WE'RE NOT DISCONTINUING DARK ELDAR!" didn't seem to be clear and understandable enough for many people. This news may signify the beginning steps of the DE comeback.

Iorek wrote:

whitedragon wrote:

You think they have them on the shelves too?

Oh, you done it now, buddy-boy! Enjoy your new avatar.

I LOVE IT! DARK ELDARS FOR ALL!

At least you're supported in the article on the GW website wherein a staffer armed with "all the codexes" talks about changes and new tactics for fifth edition. I don't see my sisters there. troubling.

There is a simple test. If they are in White Dwarf then they are being supported if not they are being sold off.

I am guessing they will probably get a new Codex after the Space Wolves one or the Necron one. Whenever that is.

Next year most likely, prolly 12 months from now.

The only reason they'd devote shelf space is if they think they'll sell. Maybe DE sales actually showed an uptick. DE fare pretty well in 5th ed, from everything I've seen and read.

I haven't seen any DE at flg but i'm going today so ill check.

Oh come on, those haemonculi ARE NOT GOING TO BE RELEASED. They were sculpted by Juan Dian NINE years ago.

This might the best thread to post facepalm pics :\



I will be happy to see DE minis availabe at stores again.

Erasoketa wrote:Oh come on, those haemonculi ARE NOT GOING TO BE RELEASED. They were sculpted by Juan Dian NINE years ago.

This might the best thread to post facepalm pics :\



I will be happy to see DE minis availabe at stores again.

This is a long running joke on Dakka, we are well aware that these minis aren't being released, but the second there is a whisper of DE, somebody posts the photo for a laugh (for which he has been suitably punished).

Now I can finish my 3rd ravager and show all the skeptics of DE

Now if only we got a new codex.

I've been working on a new DE army for a little while now and I actually DON'T want a new codex. The current dex is very well done (non-fluff non-withstanding) and has great, cheap and competitive units.

Yeah DE right now are pretty insane..most people at my club/LFGS won't play my 'evil nightshield army of doom' =[ I pretty much tone my army right down to at least have some combat otherwise its just my opponent removing models all game.

LOL...
Remember when they tried to do Apocalypse in Warhammer Fantasy? Let's see...
they had a "special deal" of all Chaos Knights, mind you, the old more expensive metal ones.
one with lots of Dark ELf Cold One Knights. ALso, mind you, the old more expensive metal ones.
One with lots of Minotau...oh they haven't screwed those people yet.

Why does no one like the current DE models??

Damnit, I feel like I'm blind....

Sounds to me like an offloading of stock before new product makes it obsolete and completely undesirable. The new plastics must be good.

The DE have been at my local GW store for at least 2 years (they did disappear for a time to direct only)

maybe the DE are the rumoured new race to be anounced at gamesday...lol
im just mad i didnt get to post the pic first

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
but honestly, elfs who are dark and also in space and sort of into bondage but only in a PG-13 sort of way is just such a limited concept.

The basic concept, I think, is actually pretty sound. The fall of the Eldar was a fairly major event in 40K fluff, and I can easily see the surviving Eldar split on how to react to it. Haughty Eldar convinced of their superiority and willing to sacrifice other races to avoid the attention of chaos gods seems pretty appropriate for the dark future 40K tries to present.

Plus, they fill a unique niche on the table top of a fast, hard hitting but fragile army. I expect a new codex will play up the "raiding" aspect of their fluff, maybe increasing the amount of outflanking units or something.

Superscope wrote:
Indeed your right... Dark eldar need something that makes them different from others... so perhaps giving them powerful leadership damaging attacks and abilities? Maybe even with some dark eldar abilities could negate all this fearless and "They shall know no fear" gibberish.. Seeing a dark eldar with year 41000+ bondage wear i think most would run screaming!

Meh...is getting caught and tortured by Dark Eldar that much scarier than being eaten alive by Tyranids or ripped apart by Orks? I think they'll focus, as mentioned above, on their raiding and webway portals, along with some new unusual wargear (they've always seemed to have the strangest, most arcane stuff).

Mahu wrote:This could be a test you know, they may be seeing what the parket is for this race before making a permanent decision.

If that's really the case then they should just tell Jes to resume sculpting the next Marine release and just Squat the fethers, because no one's going to buy those ugly god-damned models. We're all waiting for an update, we want NEW models and NEW background, so who's the idiot that thought this would be a good way to "test the market"? Especially when most people are waiting like I said and likely won't feel like investing money in gak models when they can wait for new ones that are supposedly just around the corner, depending on who you ask.

"Durr, we can't sell these ugly-ass models! That must mean no one wants Dark Eldar! CANCEL THE UPDATE IMMEDIATELY, HURRR!"

Only GW...

but honestly, elfs who are dark and also in space and sort of into bondage but only in a PG-13 sort of way is just such a limited concept.

You know, I see comments like this every time a DE thread pops up and it always boggles the mind. Any time I hear people bitch and moan about Tau it's always "They don't fit in, they don't fit in! The background and models are horribly out of place and ruin my gaming experience!!11".

You'd think the Dark Eldar would fit in perfectly then, being the complete opposite of Tau and in fact an anathema to them, and yet people are still opposed to the DE fluff and imagery. Image I can understand since that's mostly the fault of the gakky sculpts, but the background for DE is what 40k is all about. It's senseless violence, with a black paint job and skulls stuck on all over it. This is exactly what you guys want!

You just can't please some people I guess.

Meh...is getting caught and tortured by Dark Eldar that much scarier than being eaten alive by Tyranids or ripped apart by Orks?

Yes.

Grimaldi wrote:[Meh...is getting caught and tortured by Dark Eldar that much scarier than being eaten alive by Tyranids or ripped apart by Orks?

Yes, it is.

For this, we apply a sphincter test...

Getting eaten by Nids? I'd pucker. x

Ripped apart by Orks? I'd probably evacuate. o

Tortured by Chaos Eldar? An eternity of sodomyproduces a Goatse =(O)=

Sidstyler wrote:

You know, I see comments like this every time a DE thread pops up and it always boggles the mind. Any time I hear people bitch and moan about Tau it's always "They don't fit in, they don't fit in! The background and models are horribly out of place and ruin my gaming experience!!11".

You'd think the Dark Eldar would fit in perfectly then, being the complete opposite of Tau and in fact an anathema to them, and yet people are still opposed to the DE fluff and imagery. Image I can understand since that's mostly the fault of the gakky sculpts, but the background for DE is what 40k is all about. It's senseless violence, with a black paint job and skulls stuck on all over it. This is exactly what you guys want!

You just can't please some people I guess.

The problem is we already have numerous evil skull/spike/kil!kil!kil! armies. Chaos marines, daemons, orks and to a lesser extent the Imperium, so throwing in another one, that's also a bad xerox of both the Space Elfs and the Dark Elfs just doesn't grab many people.

Railguns wrote:Sounds to me like an offloading of stock before new product makes it obsolete and completely undesirable. The new plastics must be good.

+1

Also I think the secondary purpose of this might be to remind people that the Dark Eldar exist. Not all 40Kers are part of the rumour net like we are. If they suddenly start hyping an army that has been direct-only for years, players could easily think this was something coming out of left field. Re-selling the old models gives them a chance to reintroduce players to the Dark Eldar and build a little interest. And reminding players of how out-dated the models are doesn't hurt them that much- it just makes the upcoming new models seem that much better by comparison.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:The problem is we already have numerous evil skull/spike/kil!kil!kil! armies. Chaos marines, daemons, orks and to a lesser extent the Imperium, so throwing in another one, that's also a bad xerox of both the Space Elfs and the Dark Elfs just doesn't grab many people.

And yet when something truly different does come into the game (like Tau), people don't accept it because it isn't 40k enough, because it's not an evil skull/spike/kill,kill,kill army. *shrugs*

Anyway, an updated codex and model line is the perfect opportunity to develop Dark Eldar background more and make them more interesting. The reason why there's nothing to them now is because there's literally nothing to them, a lot of the background has yet to be written, and if people keep saying "no" to a new DE codex there will never be anything more to them than that.

Not all 40Kers are part of the rumour net like we are.

Argh, that's like GW's style of thinking. "We can't publish codices or even FAQs/Errata online because not everyone has internet access. We need White Dwarf and pushy sales people to get the word out about new kits because if it weren't for them no one would know they were coming. The internet is a fad and will never catch on. The Matrix seems like a rather popular film, maybe we could do a 40k army about that."

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:

You know, I see comments like this every time a DE thread pops up and it always boggles the mind. Any time I hear people bitch and moan about Tau it's always "They don't fit in, they don't fit in! The background and models are horribly out of place and ruin my gaming experience!!11".

You'd think the Dark Eldar would fit in perfectly then, being the complete opposite of Tau and in fact an anathema to them, and yet people are still opposed to the DE fluff and imagery. Image I can understand since that's mostly the fault of the gakky sculpts, but the background for DE is what 40k is all about. It's senseless violence, with a black paint job and skulls stuck on all over it. This is exactly what you guys want!

You just can't please some people I guess.

The problem is we already have numerous evil skull/spike/kil!kil!kil! armies. Chaos marines, daemons, orks and to a lesser extent the Imperium, so throwing in another one, that's also a bad xerox of both the Space Elfs and the Dark Elfs just doesn't grab many people.

But that's the setting of the game.

Hell, look at the Empire in WHFB. The classic 'good guys' have skulls and dark imagery all over their army. The plastic Gnereal/BSB set has a battle standard that looks like the Grim Reaper. That's just the nature of these games.

Personally, I think Dark Eldar should have less 'skullzzzzzz!!!' and more subtle spikes, like Dark Elves. Dark Elves in Space is really what they should aim for, in terms of models, rules, and background. A corrupt, cold-hearted race that cares nothing for the existence of others, except as slaves and entertainment.

Personally, I'm looking forward to Dark Eldar. I considered doing an army years ago, but the models were fugly. They seem to play the way I'd like to play, and I love my Dark Elf army.

Sidstyler wrote:Argh, that's like GW's style of thinking.

If it was any other company, that seems like a normal thing to say. But somehow when it's about GW, it sounds like fighting words.

Anyway, what harm does it do if they put DE back in stores?