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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/30 23:42:13
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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But is it worth $9? I'm not going to pay that much for any magazine. It'll take a lot more than just giving us the content they were supposed to have been giving us the entire time.
I've seen magazines bundled with porn DVDs that weren't fething $9.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/30 23:43:29
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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They need to replace Mark Lantham with someone more sympathetic and reinstate the WD team page where they ramble about their own little projects.
Better yet, bring back Fat Bloke.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 01:02:06
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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And cut the price by like, $4.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 01:31:20
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Fixture of Dakka
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They should do another 'giant' issue I seem to recall that sold very well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 01:54:26
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Fixture of Dakka
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They should bundle it with Porn DVDs.
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 01:57:41
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Killer Klaivex
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Hollismason wrote:They should bundle it with Porn DVDs.
'Deep Strike'?
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 02:00:20
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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'Deep strike' won the thread. you should have quit while you're ahead.
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The Battle Report Master wrote:i had a freind come round a few weeks ago to have a 40k apocalpocalpse game i was guards men he was space maines.... my first turn was 4 bonbaonbardlements... jacobs turn to he didnt have one i phased out. This space for rent, contact Gwar! for rights to this space.
Tantras wrote: Logically speaking, that makes perfect sense and I understand and agree entirely... but is it RAW? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 02:14:04
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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They should bundle it with Porn DVDs.
Seeing as how it would inevitably feature Space Marines in some way...no.
'Deep Strike'?
lmao
They should do another 'giant' issue I seem to recall that sold very well.
BUY THE GIANT!
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 02:16:53
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Killer Klaivex
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Sidstyler wrote:They should bundle it with Porn DVDs.
Seeing as how it would inevitably feature Space Marines in some way...no.
Probably Dark Angels.
With no women.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 02:37:04
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Or maybe they could include a 29 cent sprue with one or two minis, a small terrain bit, weapons or some such with each mag?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 02:50:51
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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But then they'd have to jack the price up another $5 to make up for the cost of including that $.29 sprue.
That and I really don't think more freebies is a good solution to the problem. It's nice now and then, no arguments there, but you can't fix lack of content or bad writing with a free terminator or nob, the magazine itself is still not worth it.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 03:57:11
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Sidstyler wrote:I've seen magazines bundled with porn DVDs that weren't fething $9.
*This* will end badly...
For example:
BrookM wrote:Better yet, bring back Fat Bloke.
Hollismason wrote:They should bundle it with Porn DVDs.
The combination of the two requests above (Ogre Kingdoms meets Slaanesh) could only be cured with brain bleach.
Now, Sid, don't you wish you had never brought it up?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 05:11:58
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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Actually I wish I had brought it up sooner.
It's not entirely my fault either, look at the thread title for instance. It was destined to go down a weird path anyway.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 05:37:37
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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I've been talking to people in other hobbies, and the only reason hobby magazines are staying in business is because there are some old people that don't use the internet still. There are some exceptions for things like knitting and woodcarving were they include actual patterns, but most are dwindling.
Seriously, with rising costs of labor, printing, and post magazines have less resources for content, and they're getting killed by user generated content online.
Look at the CMON painting book: that was just as good if not better, and far bigger, than any GW how to paint book, and it was a $10 download.
Warseer put out a fan mag that had more content than WD, and that was all volunteer. I think that niche magazines are simply soon to be a thing of the past.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 14:02:33
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Truly online, FREEEEE and containing genuine content with an entirely comprehensive archived back catalogue. WD should be reborn on the interwebs and include the rumours first.
The current model is seriously outdated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 15:26:14
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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White Dwarf could live again as soon as they start putting rules back in it. Even if they're not "official," I've never understood why they aren't packing it with scenarios, campaign rules, apoc datasheets, COD and Planetstrike only supplemental content, etc. And that's just for 40k!
They seemed to get some burned out by chapter approved in 3rd edition they've completely stopped doing any gaming content. Alas, that's what we want, and it's the one thing I can't get online for free.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 15:30:18
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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As long as WD is a catalogue, GW's own web site is in direct competition with it.
The only reason to keep publishing is to reach the players who don't have Internet access, which must be the minority and probably are not members of target market segments anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 16:11:37
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Master Sergeant
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Polonius wrote:White Dwarf could live again as soon as they start putting rules back in it. Even if they're not "official," I've never understood why they aren't packing it with scenarios, campaign rules, apoc datasheets, COD and Planetstrike only supplemental content, etc. And that's just for 40k!
They seemed to get some burned out by chapter approved in 3rd edition they've completely stopped doing any gaming content. Alas, that's what we want, and it's the one thing I can't get online for free.
Agreed, bring back the "fun" of WD.
Stop linking everything with the newest releases, how about a article about an old army?
There is more to the Warhammer universe than this months "new hotness"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 16:14:03
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Rampaging Furioso Blood Angel Dreadnought
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Chapter approved used to be the best reason to buy WD.
$4.00 off the price would only be like EDITED BY THE FAMILY MODQUISITION. Watch the language.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
It's still a violation, you just get back to walkin around quicker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/31 16:24:14
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Sister Vastly Superior
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Could you really tell the difference?
Evil Jervis has a goatee. Duh.
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"...I hit him so hard he saw the curvature of the Earth."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/01 13:44:52
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Can I just ask that all the "I hate WD people and will never buy it" people to buy this one issue so that maybe GW gets the message
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Proud Member of the Dakka Dakka Casual Gamer Mafia - 'Our way is the only way!
Boris Johnson wrote:Voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and
increase your chances of owning a BMW M3.
95% of teens would go into a panic attack if the jonas brothers were about to jump off the empire state building copy and paste this if you are the 5% who would pull up a lawn chair grab some popcorn and yell JUMP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/01 13:52:43
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Kyley wrote:Can I just ask that all the "I hate WD people and will never buy it" people to buy this one issue so that maybe GW gets the message
NO.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/01 19:19:02
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Certainly Kyley, now forward us the monies to do so. Or we can keep teaching them the lesson of 'value for money' and refrain from purchase until it's a magazine worth it's money (which, at the current price, would require that it comes with a free Natalie Portman covered in tiramisu).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/01 21:51:04
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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the main reason no one subscribes is because the service it utter gak, basically
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/02 02:04:26
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Dakka Veteran
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Hollismason wrote:Obviously this is some sort of sinister plot in order to get competitive players to purchase subscriptions to white dwarf. Once that happens they will have your address.
Expect the stormtroopers to burst into your house any moment and take you away for thought crimes.
*sweating and panting*
Guys, don't buy WD. It's a trick, I subscribed and they're here right now! Oh God, they're coming through the door! Mummy! Don't let them-Aaargh! No, no, please, don't take my 3.5 Chaos codex! No, I have to pass it on to my children! They need to have hope! I...
"Silence, creative one!"
*BLAM*
Glad I live in the US. They wouldn't have made it through the door.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/02 06:51:44
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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artyboy wrote:Glad I live in the US. They wouldn't have made it through the door.
That's not something to be proud of.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/02 09:44:37
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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In the UK any paper that sells allot of copies always includes one very important thing with out which they are nothing - A page 3 stunner!!
Lose the 2 page contents/editorial and include a 2 boobed hotty chewing on the end of a paint brush suggestively whilst contemplating what elite choices she wants to include in her tournament list. I'm sure one of those would be too hard to find at GWHQ?
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/02 10:46:30
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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notprop wrote:In the UK any paper that sells allot of copies always includes one very important thing with out which they are nothing - A page 3 stunner!!
Lose the 2 page contents/editorial and include a 2 boobed hotty chewing on the end of a paint brush suggestively whilst contemplating what elite choices she wants to include in her tournament list. I'm sure one of those would be too hard to find at GWHQ?
I am sure that UK disability discrimination law would not allow you to rule out any potential one boobed hotties or in true Slaneesh style, 3 boobs for that matter.
Personally I felt this issue did have a little bit of the old style about it, but the giant Space Wolves logo on the back cover suggests that next months issue will be all about how the Space Wolves are the best models they have ever produced etc. etc.
BTW did anyone else lol at how they kept going on about the thickness of the card in the space hulk set. It was as if that was the major selling point!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/02 10:57:30
Subject: Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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George Spiggott wrote:They should do another 'giant' issue I seem to recall that sold very well.
This was posted by Guy Haley when he left WD.
Okay chaps, listen up.
This is the one and only time I am going to post on Warseer (which I have been reading now ever since I began working for GW three years ago). The reason I am doing this is, to be honest, the amount of innacurate speculation about myself is getting a bit irritating, so I thought I would set the record straight. My direct involvement with GW prior to this precluded me from posting earlier, and to be honest I was just going to walk away, but I think I will feel better once the record has been set straight.
I am not here to comment on GW's policies, what has happened to WD or anything else about the company, only to give you some answers to the questions which come up time and again on the forums about myself.
Point one – me
I have been working in magazines for 10 years. I have worked on many publications as a freelance writer, but most of my work has been for SFX (1997-2003) UK WD (2004-2005) and International WD (2005-2007). I have indeed left Games Workshop to help run a new SF magazine named Death Ray. This has been set up by Matt Bielby, who is the launch editor and editor-in-chief. My title is editor and I will be taking over full editorial responsibility for the mag once we are past the launch period. Matt and I, though we have known each other for years, have never worked together before. Though he set up SFX, by the time I began on the mag he had moved on to his next launch project. Buy it, it's great.
Aside from the odd review, I have never, ever worked on a video games magazine.
Point two – Why I left
I did not get pushed. GW were very keen for me to stay, but the Death Ray job came about at a very serendipitous juncture for me, and the experience it offered was too much to turn down. I enjoyed my time at GW. It was tumultuous, but I learned a lot, and I will always love the games. Why, only last week I was playing with my goblins. So to speak.
Point three – WD
WD was once pretty much one magazine – made in the UK, translated and added to abroad. Over time it became seven very different editions in different GW sales territiories. I was recruited at a time when this process of fragmentation had become complete. I started out as the UK "managing editor" which at GW meant that I worked under Paul Sawyer, but I was responsible for editing the UK magazine pretty much from the word go, supervised by Paul, (From the one after the Gimili issue –*the number escapes me –*in 2004) and not just from when the title "editor" was added to my name in UKWD310.
At that time the local editors had a lot of power, myself included, over their magazine. GW then decided to make a more unified global WD again so I was made International editor. Starting from THE GIANTS ROXXOR issue (yeah, I read the posts FPRIVATE "TYPE=PICT;ALT=" ) – WDUK 316 – we produced an increasing amount of centralised content. 50 pages at first, rapidly rising to pretty much the whole magazine when I left in March 2007 – 98 pages in all. Owen and the other local editors actually have no influence over what the central content was, and instead produced the sales information and some of the hobby content (notably articles about hobbyists stuff). So, if you want to blame someone, blame me. I was the editor.
Point four – Why the changes?
I am a magazine editor. The first that WD had had that had worked outside of GW (I think). My job is to get a brief from whoever is in charge, and make a magazine to that brief. Sometimes, like in my new job, I help define that brief, sometimes I don't. At GW I didn't. WD is the way it is because, in my opinion at least, it is the most successful way of promoting its hobby to the widest range of people possible using the new releases (which is why the content for each system moves in strict rotation to be the majority of the mag in different months) which is roughly what my brief was. Yes, it is not the magazine it used to be, but it is doing a slightly different job for different people. Most of the reasons for the changes cited on this forum are baloney, and it certainly was not some crusade of mine to "destroy" "your" magazine.
So, that's that. I will not be posting again. I just ask you, for the sake of the people that work on WD, to understand the multifarious pressures the team are under, how much work goes on to make the magazine. The team are not "lazy" they do not hate you, nor are they stupid or malevolent. WD has to appeal to people from the ages of 11 to 60. The team do not have a personal mission to spoil your fun. They are just people that love the GW hobby trying to make something cool within a set of pre-defined parameters, and I think they do a damn fine job.
Oh, one last thing. We never fixed the battle reports. We sometimes replayed them to get a better story. That story did not involve the new army crushing an old one, more for reasons of "Crumbs, the game finished on turn two and the super-nice Steam Tank blew up the first time it fired its gun". Consider this – the guy playing with the new army will have been writing about it for six months. He knows all its tricks, the opponent does not. That is why the new force usually wins, it really is that simple.
Over and out,
Guy
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/02 11:12:57
Subject: Re:Dr StrangeJohnson - or 'How I learned to stop worrying and love White Dwarf'
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I like Guy, his losing streak aside he did have some nice armies on display every now and then.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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