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Well, we as Americans have more rights and freedoms than any other person has in any other country in the World; quality and standards of living are generally better (a few countries share the same standards but most are sub-par to ours)
Oh...YOU. ARE. ADORABLE.
Explain your statement, please. I have a feeling it would be quite amusing to most Britons, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders and Western Europeans.
I think New Zealanders would have as many rights, but there are so many sheep about, they have to watch their backs, so can't enjoy those rights. After all, while you're enjoying your freedom of speech a sheep revolt of killer sheep could break out. And god help them when zombiepocalypse comes, thinks about the millions of zombie sheep out there, waiting for their chance to strike at the human oppressor...
I for one welcome our new New Zealand sheep overlord brethren and bring a message of mutual friendship and amity from your Longhorn cattle overlord brothers in Texas.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
Ah, Aussies and Yanks discussing unchecked immigration. Irony....HO!
But seriously, they don't so much save up for it, as get a 'loan'. Usually from the Smugglers. The 'loan' is then paid back through indentured labour. Or at least, that's the plan. It would literally take a lifetime to pay off, if not more.
Fed up of Scalpers? But still want your Exclusives? Why not join us?
dogma wrote:I remember that. It was most amusing. And not because I though you were wrong, or off base.
Remember the Mango thread?
Actually I don't, got a link?
I do.. trust me.. you don't need one.
Summary : A black person ( who is a slave) in year XXXX is, apparently, less free than one now as... err..... they can't burn tyres where they want/deny women the vote/force their wife to have sex/ etc etc........ with jaw dropping levels of WTFness.
...pffft "rights".. love 'em, or leave 'em*. Seemingly.
*only applies to whites and Christains, obviously.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Fateweaver wrote:Well, we as Americans have more rights and freedoms than any other person has in any other country in the World; quality and standards of living are generally better (a few countries share the same standards but most are sub-par to ours); oh and we have guns.....lots and lots of guns.
According to the GPI Serbia is a better country to live in. You have about 79 other countries that are safer and freer than you, as a matter of fact my native New Zealand is rated the best country to live in (despite the sheep).
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Safe is a relative term. It depends on where you are at. Not all of the US of A has a crime rate as high as that of Chicago, IL or Detroit, MI.
Orkeosaurus got it right. Safer doesn't mean more freedom. For the most part I can say whatever the hell I want about my government, the people I work with or interact with, usually without legal repercussion. Certain countries around the world if you bad mouth the guy ruling the country (or gal) you end up jailed or shot.
I don't really think anyone can say their country is best. If you love your country you will of course think it's the best one (or so I'd hope). My comments about US of A being the best were my opinion and were, if I recall, light hearted. I'm not going to say other countries are worst as I have not been to every other country in the world. Feel free to disagree but other than the current administration I have no grievances with my country and I am proud to be here and won't ever leave (even though I hate the current administration with the burning fury of a thousand suns).
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
Jesus, the thread I was in was quite a bit nicer, I think.
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
JohnHwangDD wrote:There are boatloads upon boatloads upon boatloads of people who wait in line for years and years, trying to get legal immigration status.
Which is both stupid, and wrong.
JohnHwangDD wrote:
I support Zero Tolerance of illegal immigration, to be enforce by immediate deportation after massive, confiscatory fines.
Good luck with collecting those.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
What I have always failed to understand is why there are so many asylum seekers in the UK.
I was under the impression that those applying for asylum were fleeing persecution or the threat of loosing thier lives. The last time I checked the countries bordering/surrounding the UK were not considered the sorts of places where you were likely to run into such poblems
Ireland, Iceland, France, Bulgium, Netherlands, Denmark and Normway. All of these countries are part of the developed world, they have stable economies, governments and virtualy no civil unrest compared to the countries where the majority of asylum seekers come from. So why when the idea of asylum is to run for the nearest "safe" country do we have so many asylum seekers. Probably because of the fee healthcare, education and benefits.
I have no problem with helping those in need, and I am sure there are genuine cases out there, but I do have a problem with unchecked imigration and people who are unwilling to integrate and contribute towards the society of the country they are trying to settle in.
reds8n wrote:I do.. trust me.. you don't need one.
Summary : A black person ( who is a slave) in year XXXX is, apparently, less free than one now as... err..... they can't burn tyres where they want/deny women the vote/force their wife to have sex/ etc etc........ with jaw dropping levels of WTFness.
Wow. I really don't want to know.
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dogma wrote:Here ya go. Its not immediately apparent where the whole cavalcade of ridiculousness is heading, but once you get to the half-way point it'll click.
Huh, I forgot all about that. Just skimming through it I'm annoyed all over again
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JohnHwangDD wrote:There are boatloads upon boatloads upon boatloads of people who wait in line for years and years, trying to get legal immigration status.
How is it right to support people breaking the law?
I support Zero Tolerance of illegal immigration, to be enforce by immediate deportation after massive, confiscatory fines.
There are large numbers of people who are in imminent danger, as they belong to the wrong political faction or the wrong tribe or the wrong socio-economic group.
And arriving in a country without a visa and requesting refugee status is not illegal in any country in the world.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Bah. Lock down the damn US border, round up all the illegals in the country and send their asses home. Would lower the population by 10's of millions allowing US citizens more room to grow.
Too damn bad A.I would throw a hissy over it. LOL
--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
I refuse to respond with my honest opinion of you, Fateweaver. I WOULD GET FETHING BANNED!!!
Therefore, I will voice my opinion on America in general, through song lyrics:
(First, let me hide and take cover...)
‘Merican (The Descendents) We flipped the finger to the King of England
Then stole our country from the Indians
With God on our side and guns in our hands
We took it for our own
Built a nation dedicated to liberty,
Justice, and equality
Does it look that way to you? It doesn’t look that way to me
It’s the sickest joke I know
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am
I'm just another stupid American
But you don’t want to listen, you don’t want to understand
Just finish up your drink and go home.
I come from the land of Ben Franklin,
Twain and Poe and Walt Whitman.
Otis Redding, Ellington,
The country that I love…
But it’s the land of the slaves, and the Klu Klux Klan,
The Haymarket Riot, and the Great Depression
Joe McCarthy, Viet Nam
It’s the sickest joke I know
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am
I'm just another stupid American
But you don’t want to listen, you don’t want to understand
Just finish up your drink and go home
I'm proud and ashamed, every 4th of July
You’ve got to know the truth before you say that you’ve got pride
Now the cops got tanks ‘cause the kids got guns
Shrinks pushing pills on everyone
Cancer from the ocean, cancer from the sun
Straight to Hell we go
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am
I'm just another stupid American
But you don’t want to listen, you don’t want to understand
Just finish up your drink and go home
.Execute. - Slipknot It appears that we have reached the Edge,
that zenith where stimuli and comatose collide.
40 years ago, The Man proclaimed
The Age of the Gross to be upon us,
and even though The Man was destroying
our heritage and insulting our intelligence,
THAT ERA HAS BECOME VERY REAL.
We labor for pleasure and
abhor the guilt of pressure.
My Generation will go down
as the Architects of Contemporary Disgust.
Some have fought and died,
others have allowed the Strong
to be butchered for a price
they themselves don't care about
and will never understand.
I myself am beleaguered
by the selfish face of
A Kind of Man that is NOT MANKIND.
Distrust in information - Fundamentalism
of Opinion - Catastrophic Boredom, and
a Fanatical Devotion to that which
DOES NOT MATTER.
Where is your Glory now, people?
Where are your Gods and politicians?
Where is your Shame and Salvation?
You Rage for no reason because you have no Reason.
What have you ever FOUGHT for?
What have you ever BLED for?
The Face of the Earth is scarred with the Walking Dead.
The Age of the Gross is a Living Virus.
This is the future you have created.
This is the world you have set ablaze.
ALL YOUR LIES ARE COMING TRUE.
ALL FREEDOM IS LOST.
ALL HOPE IS GONE.
That being said... I love/hate this country with my entire soul. There is no perfect place. There will never be one. The fact that you say this place is the best means that you are blind to the world and other cultures. Wait, I said I won't go down this road...
P.S. The end of .Execute. is very OTT, I know.
I am a damaged individual screaming random obscenities into the internet, sorry if I upset you.
"Dig what you dig. Don't take any fool's madness, just dig what you dig."
-Corey Taylor (Not Saying you're a fool )
"You guys are nuttier n fruitbats who just sucked a three week old pineapple." -Frazzled
Fateweaver wrote:Bah. Lock down the damn US border, round up all the illegals in the country and send their asses home. Would lower the population by 10's of millions allowing US citizens more room to grow.
Too damn bad A.I would throw a hissy over it. LOL
Sending all the illegals home would crush thousands of small businesses. Including the one I work for.
Which would destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs. Including mine.
Great idea.
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Fateweaver wrote:Bah. Lock down the damn US border, round up all the illegals in the country and send their asses home. Would lower the population by 10's of millions allowing US citizens more room to grow.
Too damn bad A.I would throw a hissy over it. LOL
Sending all the illegals home would crush thousands of small businesses. Including the one I work for.
Which would destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs. Including mine.
Great idea.
The fact that there are still threads in which people think that illegal immigrants are the root cause of illegal immigration, and not the people hiring them, shows the immigration debate to be less about policy and more about xeno-phobia.
I have no problem shutting the borders, deporting illegals, or any of that. Its our state, and we can decide who to let in, particularly with the 14th amendment making all kids of such immigrants citizens.
My problem is that as long as American businesses hire illegals, illegals will come. It's not impossible to find out where these people are working, and those employers do have assets to fine.
Fateweaver wrote:Bah. Lock down the damn US border, round up all the illegals in the country and send their asses home. Would lower the population by 10's of millions allowing US citizens more room to grow.
A low population is bad for us all.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Haven't you heard, dogma? There's going to be a Population Bomb! By the 1980s we'll all have starved to death!
Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
Polonius wrote:My problem is that as long as American businesses hire illegals, illegals will come. It's not impossible to find out where these people are working, and those employers do have assets to fine.
Of course, this raises the question of whether businesses knowingly hire illegals, choose not to check, or unknowingly hire an illegal.
Knowingly hiring, or deliberately choosing not to check should definitely be fined for breaking the law.
But if the illegal presents fraudulent ID that doesn't raise any red flags, why should the employer be penalized?
And regardless, the problem source starts with the illegal person.
Polonius wrote:My problem is that as long as American businesses hire illegals, illegals will come. It's not impossible to find out where these people are working, and those employers do have assets to fine.
Of course, this raises the question of whether businesses knowingly hire illegals, choose not to check, or unknowingly hire an illegal.
Knowingly hiring, or deliberately choosing not to check should definitely be fined for breaking the law.
But if the illegal presents fraudulent ID that doesn't raise any red flags, why should the employer be penalized?
And regardless, the problem source starts with the illegal person.
If you park your car in a bad neighborhood, but don't lock it, aren't you a little responsible if it get's stolen? Likewise, if companies are inducing people to break the law, isn't that just as bad?
There's a reality to the situation: you can't keep illegals out if there is a reason for them to come here. It's easier to remove the reason than to plug every gap in the border.
As for if the hirings are deliberate, it can't be that hard to set up a system for verifying ID's.
Polonius wrote:My problem is that as long as American businesses hire illegals, illegals will come. It's not impossible to find out where these people are working, and those employers do have assets to fine.
Of course, this raises the question of whether businesses knowingly hire illegals, choose not to check, or unknowingly hire an illegal.
Knowingly hiring, or deliberately choosing not to check should definitely be fined for breaking the law.
But if the illegal presents fraudulent ID that doesn't raise any red flags, why should the employer be penalized?
And regardless, the problem source starts with the illegal person.
If you park your car in a bad neighborhood, but don't lock it, aren't you a little responsible if it get's stolen? Likewise, if companies are inducing people to break the law, isn't that just as bad?
There's a reality to the situation: you can't keep illegals out if there is a reason for them to come here. It's easier to remove the reason than to plug every gap in the border.
As for if the hirings are deliberate, it can't be that hard to set up a system for verifying ID's.
No, but if you are under a particular number of employees, the state wont hassle you, so you can continue to hire these people who are willing to work for less. Because nobody will stop you.
Automatically Appended Next Post: You know I had almost brought this up before and decided against it, but now seems like a pretty good time.
One of the guys I work with, Jose Paco Francisco Guerrero, (We call him Paco) has invited me to go to Mexico around christmas with him and his cousin Sergio (whom I also work with.) I have been to Mexico a couple times, but only so far as Tiajuana (blech) and Rosarito. Paco's ranch is in Michoacan, which is somewhere around 1000 miles south of that. According to Paco mexicans party pretty hard, and Michoacan is a beautiful state, so I'll be hard pressed not to have a good time.
I'm not a party guy, and I have my doubts about any part of mexico having anything to interest me, but I will admit I AM interested in seeing how we get to and from.
Paco is legal, and has paperwork, but Sergio is/does not.
I almost want to take him up on the offer, just to witness for myself how these guys get in and out without getting caught.
Another concern though.. what happens to me if they catch us driving back in, and I'm along for the ride?
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I refuse to respond with my honest opinion of you, Fateweaver. I WOULD GET FETHING BANNED!!!
Therefore, I will voice my opinion on America in general, through song lyrics:
(First, let me hide and take cover...)
‘Merican (The Descendents) We flipped the finger to the King of England
Then stole our country from the Indians
With God on our side and guns in our hands
We took it for our own
Built a nation dedicated to liberty,
Justice, and equality
Does it look that way to you? It doesn’t look that way to me
It’s the sickest joke I know
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am
I'm just another stupid American
But you don’t want to listen, you don’t want to understand
Just finish up your drink and go home.
I come from the land of Ben Franklin,
Twain and Poe and Walt Whitman.
Otis Redding, Ellington,
The country that I love…
But it’s the land of the slaves, and the Klu Klux Klan,
The Haymarket Riot, and the Great Depression
Joe McCarthy, Viet Nam
It’s the sickest joke I know
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am
I'm just another stupid American
But you don’t want to listen, you don’t want to understand
Just finish up your drink and go home
I'm proud and ashamed, every 4th of July
You’ve got to know the truth before you say that you’ve got pride
Now the cops got tanks ‘cause the kids got guns
Shrinks pushing pills on everyone
Cancer from the ocean, cancer from the sun
Straight to Hell we go
Listen up, man, I'll tell you who I am
I'm just another stupid American
But you don’t want to listen, you don’t want to understand
Just finish up your drink and go home
.Execute. - Slipknot It appears that we have reached the Edge,
that zenith where stimuli and comatose collide.
40 years ago, The Man proclaimed
The Age of the Gross to be upon us,
and even though The Man was destroying
our heritage and insulting our intelligence,
THAT ERA HAS BECOME VERY REAL.
We labor for pleasure and
abhor the guilt of pressure.
My Generation will go down
as the Architects of Contemporary Disgust.
Some have fought and died,
others have allowed the Strong
to be butchered for a price
they themselves don't care about
and will never understand.
I myself am beleaguered
by the selfish face of
A Kind of Man that is NOT MANKIND.
Distrust in information - Fundamentalism
of Opinion - Catastrophic Boredom, and
a Fanatical Devotion to that which
DOES NOT MATTER.
Where is your Glory now, people?
Where are your Gods and politicians?
Where is your Shame and Salvation?
You Rage for no reason because you have no Reason.
What have you ever FOUGHT for?
What have you ever BLED for?
The Face of the Earth is scarred with the Walking Dead.
The Age of the Gross is a Living Virus.
This is the future you have created.
This is the world you have set ablaze.
ALL YOUR LIES ARE COMING TRUE.
ALL FREEDOM IS LOST.
ALL HOPE IS GONE.
That being said... I love/hate this country with my entire soul. There is no perfect place. There will never be one. The fact that you say this place is the best means that you are blind to the world and other cultures. Wait, I said I won't go down this road...
P.S. The end of .Execute. is very OTT, I know.
Got a beef with my opinion PM me.
Know what irritates me? Is a friend of mine told me I was closed minded because I didn't learn to speak Spanish in HS. Now tell me why the feth I should have to learn to speak Spanish when the main language of my country is English? If you want to live in my goddamn country learn to speak the goddamn language and speak it when you work at a place of employment where 99% of your fellow employees are American citizens or where 99% of your customers are American citizens. I shouldn't need a goddamn translator to order a Big Mac value meal at McDonalds here in the US of A.
Or am I being unfair to those who steal jobs from Americans (you know because employers have to meet a certain "quota" of minorities to whites; and don't say it doesn't happen as there IS such a quota in place). You know, Equal Opportunity Employer, meaning if Jesus Ortega cannot speak English but the employer needs to hire more minorities to balance the equation he has no choice but to hire Jesus. How the feth is that fair?
Only A.I indoctrinators and bleeding heart Libs would see illegal immigration as a good thing.
As quoted in my sig. RIP America.....it was nice knowing you for the past 233 years.
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Falconlance wrote:Wow, I'm glad to see someone else gets it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: You know I had almost brought this up before and decided against it, but now seems like a pretty good time.
One of the guys I work with, Jose Paco Francisco Guerrero, (We call him Paco) has invited me to go to Mexico around christmas with him and his cousin Sergio (whom I also work with.) I have been to Mexico a couple times, but only so far as Tiajuana (blech) and Rosarito. Paco's ranch is in Michoacan, which is somewhere around 1000 miles south of that. According to Paco mexicans party pretty hard, and Michoacan is a beautiful state, so I'll be hard pressed not to have a good time.
I'm not a party guy, and I have my doubts about any part of mexico having anything to interest me, but I will admit I AM interested in seeing how we get to and from.
Paco is legal, and has paperwork, but Sergio is/does not.
I almost want to take him up on the offer, just to witness for myself how these guys get in and out without getting caught.
Another concern though.. what happens to me if they catch us driving back in, and I'm along for the ride?
Probably questioned as to how you know the 2 guys and what you were doing. I wouldn't sweat it too much.
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
Fateweaver wrote:
Know what irritates me? Is a friend of mine told me I was closed minded because I didn't learn to speak Spanish in HS. Now tell me why the feth I should have to learn to speak Spanish when the main language of my country is English? If you want to live in my goddamn country learn to speak the goddamn language and speak it when you work at a place of employment where 99% of your fellow employees are American citizens or where 99% of your customers are American citizens. I shouldn't need a goddamn translator to order a Big Mac value meal at McDonalds here in the US of A.
Or am I being unfair to those who steal jobs from Americans (you know because employers have to meet a certain "quota" of minorities to whites; and don't say it doesn't happen as there IS such a quota in place). You know, Equal Opportunity Employer, meaning if Jesus Ortega cannot speak English but the employer needs to hire more minorities to balance the equation he has no choice but to hire Jesus. How the feth is that fair?
Only A.I indoctrinators and bleeding heart Libs would see illegal immigration as a good thing.
As quoted in my sig. RIP America.....it was nice knowing you for the past 233 years.
Dude, are you trolling, or is that what you actually believe? Are you sure your friend didn't call you closed minded because of opinions like that?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Further more, I don't know that ANYONE thinks ILLEGAL immigration is a good thing.
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Answer me why then Falcon. Why should I have to learn to speak Spanish in a country whose main language is English? If I had plans to visit a country one day whose people only knew and spoke Spanish than I'd buy the Rosetta Stone software and learn it but until such time why?
It's not what I believe, both points are valid. You want to dispute equal opportunity than go ahead and try because you will lose. You also can't dispute why we Americans should learn to speak Spanish just to be able to order a 99 cent taco at Taco Bell or a Double quarter pounder value meal at McD's.
Prove to me that none of my points are valid and I'll bow down to your infinite wisdom. Until then your opinions of me are just opinions and what you think about me does not make me lose sleep at night. Trust me on that Falcon (and anyone else who thinks I'm evil).
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Falconlance wrote:
Fateweaver wrote:Bah. Lock down the damn US border, round up all the illegals in the country and send their asses home. Would lower the population by 10's of millions allowing US citizens more room to grow.
Too damn bad A.I would throw a hissy over it. LOL
Sending all the illegals home would crush thousands of small businesses. Including the one I work for.
Which would destroy hundreds of thousands of jobs. Including mine.
Great idea.
You just told me nobody thinks illegals in this country is a good idea but then you say stuff like this. By your own reasoning you have just asserted that illegals are good for this country. Which is it? Or are you the only one who feels illegals in this country make it a better place?
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--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
You're calling an awful lot of attention to yourself, I have half a mind to just sit back and watch everyone else rip into you, but out of respect I'll answer your challenge best I can.
1) You don't. Nobody is making you learn spanish. I don't know where you live, but I live here in Orange County, CA, and the hispanic population here is immense. That being said, I have never once had to order anything in spanish, from anywhere. Have I ever? Yes, I have, because I can. Did I have to? No. I chose to learn spanish because I wanted to, not because I had to.
2) You are right. equal opportunity is garbage. Its a terrible system that puts people who are less qualified ahead of people who are more qualified. I was denied a spot in the LAPD because of it. It needs to go away, but it was instituted to combat racial bias. (ironic.) It wasn't instituted specifically to screw the white man, as you appear to believe.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I didnt say illegal immigration is a good thing. I implied throwing them all over the fence simultaneously is a bad idea. I assure you, there is a difference.
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