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Lord of battles wrote:Also does this include books/forgeworld

That's really up to you, given that the stated purpose was to show GW how upset you are with their recent behaviour. Nobody else here can tell you how cranky you are with them...

I had planned some purchases. Going to hold off on them now.

Thing is, the public spin on Dakka is that we're a bunch of anti-GW cranks. The only
way this would work is:

1. It hurts their bottom line.
2. It hurts their public image, which hurts their bottom line.

People I talk to who are good fans of GW don't often see Dakka as a place to set
their moral gaming compass by. So how will this work?

Deadshane1 wrote:Spread the word. Put a link to this thread on every forum possible. Make it viral.

You want your LandRaider? Do you want it at the current price or for 10 dollars MORE after the next price hike? I'm betting you've got something else to paint while you wait 2 months to pick it up.

I've put a link to this on Warseer and Fumbbl.com. Spread the word. Make GW hurt this X-mas and have them apologise to us, the consumer for their shoddy treatment of us thru their lack of consideration to those that put money in their pockets.

I guarantee you the mods and owner at warseer will delete your thread without warning within 15 minutes of it being up. They are so pro GW-corporate its sickens me.

I am sick of GW's draconian attitude.

My pledge:

My will ensure that for the entirity of 2010 the sum total of my direct or indirect purchases from GW will be less than the sum total of my investment in second hand used purchases of GW stock.

If I find insufficient second hand GW materials to exceed them I will go without new retail or internet ordered materials to match. If this means buying second hand old clanrats than the new resculpt models so be it, i will take the inferior versions to keep my pledge.


What this means: At least half of what I buy will offer no further income to GW. This de-facto halves any income to the company in the least without sacrificing my volume of purchases.

If there is a will, there is a way.


How many people would be interested in an organized group, is the question.


We have the power of the internets.

Anything - is possible.

I am sorry, I think a boycott is a way to voice your anger to the C&D it will not hurt GW during Christmas. They have even sales all year long and see spikes everytime they release a new system, codex or edition. They plan these spikes throughout the year to even out their profits.

The only person that will be hurt by a two month boycott is your FLGS owner. In this time of economic downturn people have stop buy as much in the hobby to save money. My FLGS owners sales are down store wide by 50% more more. A boycott of GW which is one of his biggest sellers would kill the store.

While a boycott is an option, the best thing to do is to get gamers to buy stock in the company and make your voice heard when votes come up. Share holders are allowed to band together and vote out the board, CEO and CFO. Shareholders can also sue the company for mismanagement. If every gamer bought one or even five shares then everyone voted against the board that will do more good than a boycott.

Go boycott GW mailorder and GW stores all you want.

..but keep buying SOMETHING from your FLGS. Stores are dying right now from the crappy economy. They need the people that play there to support them.


Hmmm, or if you really want to try something odd...Pick a non GW model. Something that doesn't sell a ton of. Like bodger mechanics from Warmachine, or a T-70 tank from Flames of War. Everyone who is boycotting GW goes out and buys the same item, do a special order if you have to. If Privateer suddenly sells 5000 blisters of Bodgers, it might send a better message.

So pick a cool model from somewhere, everyone buys one, put up a dakka gallery and post your pics. Thousands of pics of the same miniature.

Much better than a 1000 signatures on an E-protest.

I agree with mikhaila. This is a much better idea than an outright boycott since that will kill the FLGS.

Also, here is the current share price as of 12:01 AM CST for Games Workshop, LTD:

18 Nov: 272.09 p 7.91 (2.83%)

Looking at the overall 4 year corprate sheets and the company is pretty stable. Even with the economic downturn GW have made more money 2009 than in the last three years.

mikhaila wrote:Go boycott GW mailorder and GW stores all you want.

..but keep buying SOMETHING from your FLGS. Stores are dying right now from the crappy economy. They need the people that play there to support them.


Hmmm, or if you really want to try something odd...Pick a non GW model. Something that doesn't sell a ton of. Like bodger mechanics from Warmachine, or a T-70 tank from Flames of War. Everyone who is boycotting GW goes out and buys the same item, do a special order if you have to. If Privateer suddenly sells 5000 blisters of Bodgers, it might send a better message.

So pick a cool model from somewhere, everyone buys one, put up a dakka gallery and post your pics. Thousands of pics of the same miniature.

Much better than a 1000 signatures on an E-protest.

Like buying Reaper miniatures for my D&D-addict nephews? I was considering that anyway. Sounds like a good time to get into AT-43. They need some support.

warpcrafter wrote: Sounds like a good time to get into AT-43. They need some support.

Alliance says ONI street date is November 25th.

Evil Corporation and Zombies are a good GW alternative, right?

And more AT-43 players is always appreciated.

I remember the "don't buy gas on Tuesday boycott". Yeah, that had a huge impact on gas prices. I mean when that happened gas suddenly fell to 10 cents per gallon....errr wait. It didn't. It just ended up in people buying gas that day because they realized to wait another day would have meant sitting alongside the road somewhere.

Hmm.

I don't think I'll boycott GW. I'm too addicted to their miniatures and nobody in my group is interested in another system and I usually order through Neal so if I don't buy GW products than Neal loses my money, therefore Neal loses money.

Naw, I don't think I'll be in.

That is why buying GW stock and voting against the CEO/CFO when votes come up, or do a share holder suit to get them to knock off the C/D letters. That will do alot more than a boycott.

Fateweaver wrote:I remember the "don't buy gas on Tuesday boycott". Yeah, that had a huge impact on gas prices. I mean when that happened gas suddenly fell to 10 cents per gallon....errr wait. It didn't. It just ended up in people buying gas that day because they realized to wait another day would have meant sitting alongside the road somewhere.

Hmm.

I don't think I'll boycott GW. I'm too addicted to their miniatures and nobody in my group is interested in another system and I usually order through Neal so if I don't buy GW products than Neal loses my money, therefore Neal loses money.

Naw, I don't think I'll be in.

Right there with ya, FW.

This is pretty silly. Sounds to me liek GW is protecting itself by trying to stop other companies making models of their IP. As The Iak said, they're just asking them to stop infringing not "shutting them down".

I agree and support this but I personally can't think of the last time when I bought a model from GW directly. I hate the company so much... but Warhammer is so great. It's like an abusive relationship

GW is on a rampage right now with IP as they plan on diversifying into media and in mediau your IP is everything.


This is probably not even the end of it. Look for GW to file a patent on 28mm range miniatures or the concept of using DICE ALA tapping etc.. similar to what MTG did a few years ago.


this isnt even remotely close to being over.

Not buying GW for 2 months is easy unless you..

a) Don't have a usable army
or
b) Have impulse control problems

..in which case pm me about buying some magic beans that I just so happen to possess

That being said, I highly doubt many people will boycott GW at all as most people either don't care or are content to buy the drugs that are provided by their normal pushers You need boycott support groups to keep it going.

mikhaila wrote:Go boycott GW mailorder and GW stores all you want.

..but keep buying SOMETHING from your FLGS. Stores are dying right now from the crappy economy. They need the people that play there to support them.


Hmmm, or if you really want to try something odd...Pick a non GW model. Something that doesn't sell a ton of. Like bodger mechanics from Warmachine, or a T-70 tank from Flames of War. Everyone who is boycotting GW goes out and buys the same item, do a special order if you have to. If Privateer suddenly sells 5000 blisters of Bodgers, it might send a better message.

So pick a cool model from somewhere, everyone buys one, put up a dakka gallery and post your pics. Thousands of pics of the same miniature.

Much better than a 1000 signatures on an E-protest.

I like this idea. Lets crank it up a notch. Why not get everyone who is on board to buy one of the contested models and then just simple post it to GW with a simple, "You Suck" attached to it?

I might have joined this, but what's the point? It wouldn't make a significant dent in their sales for them to notice. You see there would be a lot of parents being dragged into their local GW store, various Space Marines boxes will be pointed out and they won't even notice this boycott at all. A fair few of them would probably be the AoBR set as it's an alright deal. So expect a few new Space Marines and/or Ork players to show up and fill in the small gap that this will create.

Im in. I can go buy some warmachine stuff.

Or everyone to take the pledge to try out that 'other company' for Christmas. So go get your AT-43 starter army
http://www.rackham.fr/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=57&Itemid=234
or try out a beginners force for Warmachine
http://privateerpress.com/
or some of those amazing figures from Infinity
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity_ENG/
Consider the possibility of a historical army you've always loved such as US civil war or Napoleonics and take a look at those amazing figures by The Perry Twins
http://www.perry-miniatures.com/index2.html
Check out Flames of War
http://www.flamesofwar.com/
or West Wind
http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/
or Gear Krieg
http://dp9.com/Worlds/GK.htm
If you're a fantasy player, take a look at Gamezone miniatures, who quite literally make warhammer figures better than GW do
http://www.gamezoneminiatures.de/index.php/language/en/XTCsid/fb2638db7ba680ee4c57fc24ea46771a
or Avatars of War, whose character models put the GW ones to shame!
http://www.arena-deathmatch.com/forums/portal.php

Head on over to the shop area of Cool Mini Or Not to take a look at a huge range of alternative figures.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/section.php?xSec=2&xPage=1&jssCart=025f131db4010a4ffdba51c6c58c75e3

Take just one year and one month and instead of putting your money with the usual suspect, go browse other companies.

If you can't do that, spend the entire Christmas budget on non-GW terrain. Or perhaps the Vallejo paints instead of the GW ones.

I didn't plan on getting anything GW for Xmas this year anyway... but sure, I'll add some spite to those sentiments!

Sign me up, doc!

Although I do have a date planned with Gamezone and Cipher Studios...

insaniak wrote:I can appreciate people wanting to take a stand over something that has upset them. But, frankly, I can't see there actually being enough people out there upset enough over GW enforcing their IP ownership on a couple of fringe websites to actually make any sort of appreciable dent.

That is certainly true. I've stopped buying GW product because it makes me feel good, not because I want to make a stand. I have no doubt that GW will continue on the path it's chosen for as long as it exists, and there's nothing any of us little people can do to stop it. That doesn't mean we should necessarily assist them in so doing.

"It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks." (Acts 26:14)

Its time to go Privateer Press.

Support the coming up company.

I'd join you. But I wasn't planning on giving GW any of my money anyway... Oh well!

I'll join the boycott. GW are just like the French in soccer--cheaters!

DAMN... you guys know Im waiting to splash some serious money in NIDS, I have waited since the last nid codex to buy new bugs, and this would mean I would probably lose some kind of army deal...

You know what, Frack it! I'm also sick and tired of GW anal atitudes so even if its going to be hard on my beloved bugs I'm 100% in.

No cristhmas at GW I will take my business elsewere... redboxgames, infinit... going to search for some terrain for a table etc...

Even if you guys managed to pull off a boycot that actually impacts GW's quarterly profits, they'll just blame it on the recession.

meh. I'm more bothered that it's now taken them 2 weeks to get me a box of Bloodletters.

Breotan wrote:Even if you guys managed to pull off a boycot that actually impacts GW's quarterly profits, they'll just blame it on the recession.

Well dont forget that even if thats a big possibility... the competition will get our money so they will get extra boost, as little as this may sound they will for sure apreciate it and who knows develop even better products...

I boycotted GW a long time ago and will continue to do so until Dark Eldar get a new codex.
I go to ebay when I want to expand my tau.