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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:16:39
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Gracias Luna,
Keep it coming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:20:22
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Chapterhouse wrote:Gracias Luna,
Keep it coming.
Ok in that case... here goes!
@ Hair , i noticed lots of miniatures tries to sculpt strands of hair , but thats not neccesary!
because hair style now days are often layered or feathered , example below:
the hair's feathered layer are clearly shown , though there are almost no visible strands.
The strands that does exist only exist to convey as if the wind have blown some strands away.
Note that they dont have spaghetti lines to say " ok this must be hair "
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:20:54
Subject: Re:First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Werewolf of Angmar
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Earlier I mentioned ponytails, I think that'd be good to add some variety to the hair styles given.
Also, are you planning on making female arms, chests and legs too? Or is that a little bit into the future? Just curious.
Rico...
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"Well, looks can be deceiving."
"Not as deceiving as a low down, dirty... Deceiver." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:21:18
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Chapterhouse wrote:OK OK we get it
So make some critiques besides "bad" and "not good" what specifically needs work?
What is good about them? I like the hair sculpting myself.
Capice?
Critiques beside "bad and not good"?
They need to well...look more human. I'd suggest that barring a more human look...trying "bare" heads--use a close skullcap or some form of formfitting hat. And potentially some form of blast goggles or the like.
But eh. It's far more different than anything I could do.
Why start with the heads, however?
Why not decals or dare I say...shoulderpads for the Guard?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:22:56
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Been Around the Block
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wow i really need to move out of Asian then ... or go to the next island afte the rainy season where all the westen tourist in Bikini are at ..
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my sculpting bloge
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:27:45
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Flashy Flashgitz
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The noses are really more scandanavian than asian, but that is not a complaint just a comment. Anyway, my prob is in the eyes really. As I mentioned before the eyes tend to be more pronounced than they should, so if you sink the eyes a bit that would help. Also humand are unique amungst the animal kingdom because we are one of the few animals whose eyes are designed to face forward as opposed to being placed more on the side of the head. If humans did not have noses the plane of the face would be relativlely flat. The nose gives the illusion of a more rounded eye socket layout, if that makes any sense. But you know really, you are doing a damn good job all things considered. The thing that most of us are probably forgetting is that you are skulpting something the size of a rabbit turd, that is bloody hard to do, man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:28:24
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Revliss wrote: wow i really need to move out of Asian then ... or go to the next island afte the rainy season where all the westen tourist in Bikini are at ..
I think asiansn are fine , an immediate issue i think are confusing the people are ,
your eyes are shaped as if they are already pre shaped with mascara .
Without it been painted , people probably cant imagine it visually.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:31:24
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Been Around the Block
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i need to get out of Asia some time ..
back on topic note taken .. start with new heads after i get the space elf done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:39:33
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Revliss wrote:i need to get out of Asia some time ..
back on topic note taken .. start with new heads after i get the space elf done
Nooooo~  Im seriouse , some of them look really good ,
its just the position of them make it feel abit " off " adjusting it alittle bit will be fine. Just tweak on the distance between
the eye + nose ridge + cheek bone.
Cast them right away , and get them painted up as prototypes . I guarantee you 90% of the people will change their mind and end up liking them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:49:17
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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[MOD]
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I think the biggest problem with them is the eyes.
Hair and overall shape is fine. Some of the noses are a little oddly shaped, but are probably passable.
But the eyes are too protruding, and are positioned all over the shop. In the last picture, the head in the middle has one eye butting right up against the bridge of the nose, while the other is halfway around her head, and higher up. The top right head in the 5th picture has her eye on the side of her head.
A bit more effort on getting the eyes lined up, better defined and less bulging would improve these no end.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:52:15
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Thank you guys, thats what we need
I will get prototypes cast and painted.. maybe that will change things up a bit on some if not all the heads.
Time will tell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 03:58:57
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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Chapterhouse wrote:Thank you guys, thats what we need
I will get prototypes cast and painted.. maybe that will change things up a bit on some if not all the heads.
Time will tell.
The shape of the nose / eyes are fine , its the distance that need some tweak.
You can take the most beautiful model in the world and photoshop the facial distance completely,
they'll end up looking weird / alien .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:02:10
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Step 1: Ditch Current sculpts
Step 2: Open Google
Step 3: Search for pics of modern female soldiers
Step 4: Research
Step 5: ............
Step 6: Profit!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:03:29
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Killer Klaivex
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Yeah, Luna, I don't think you can pad this. Sometimes, sculpts are just plain bad.
As much as I hate to say it, I agree with jp400.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:04:41
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
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jp400 wrote:Step 1: Ditch Current sculpts
Step 2: Open Google
Step 3: Search for pics of modern female soldiers
Step 4: Research
Step 5: ............
Step 6: Profit!!
Vasquez will look like
if we dont feminize the miniature ( its simply too small )
Cheese Elemental wrote:Yeah, Luna, I don't think you can pad this. Sometimes, sculpts are just plain bad.
As much as I hate to say it, I agree with jp400.
Meh , i believe what i see , i'll hold my breath till i see them painted -_-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:08:49
Subject: First attempt at IG Female heads..
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Killer Klaivex
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Paint isn't going to fix the wonky eyes or ludicrous noses.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:10:55
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Bambi eyes are fine. I'll still wait for the properly painted prototypes .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:11:35
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cheese...
Did we just agree on something???
I think Satan just drove a snowplow to work!
lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:14:42
Subject: Re:First attempt at IG Female heads..
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I think it is less of proportion and more an issue of expression. Every expression is...well...odd is the best description I can give. Some just look like the are standing there with their mouth a little open and the ones that are screaming look less like screaming and more like pooping because the rest of the expression does not match the scream.
Maybe with paint they will look better. Sometimes I find it hard to see depth and character in a green sculpt.
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I do what the voices in my wifes head say...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:20:36
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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How I would Fix this........
1: Add a Brain bucket
2: Make hair pulled back into bun under the Brain bucket
3: Fix the face so that its more realistic and less Anime
4: If you dont do the Brain bucket, then at the very least give her a military style cut.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 04:24:53
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Executing Exarch
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OMG!!!!
All your IP are belong to GW!! Huuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!
I figure its not a chapterhouse post until someone does that...
I concur you really need to work on the eyes, and they look a little large compared to the IG head you posted. Other than that they are great!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 07:41:46
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Placement of the eyes. Including width apart and most importantly symmetry.
Cheekbones and general bonestructure.
Profile.
Size of head above eyes vs size of head below eyes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 08:41:42
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Why not just sculpt generic youthful looking faces which can be used as females and young males? What will more likely sell the female soldier is the torso and limbs which you're not focusing on here.
In the grim dark future all female soldiers must look hot?
Tell you what, how about some fat soldiers instead of female heads to go onto obviously male bodies?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 09:10:31
Subject: Re:First attempt at IG Female heads..
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I'd love to see heads with berets, caps and not just military hair styles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 09:56:10
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I suggest you buy a couple of packs of the Hasslefree heads...
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=1312
http://www.hasslefreeminiatures.co.uk/pack.php?pack=1313
According to the website they can be used commercially. If the heads fit on IG figures, you only need add hair, helmets and such.
If nothing else they would be a practical guide to your own sculptor.
I'm sure things look different when seen 'lifesize'. People may be too hasty to judge these sculpts presented in pics blown up three or four times what they would be on a miniature.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 11:17:26
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Been Around the Block
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yup i use those hasslfree heads they are great check this out..using hasslefree head and a 5 min GS hairstyle/beret
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 11:27:59
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I love your guys stuff, and this is the first thing I've had to say that I simply would refuse to buy because of the quality.
The noses whilst of anime style, actually don't fit one style, many are completely different to each other, and slightly strange for it. The eyes look like the sculptor attached a blob and tried to sculpt an eye out of it, and hence look like they're bulging. In some cases, the hair should be probably be slightly longer for the haircut being attempted.
But try again revliss! Take these as honest constructive criticisms, and perfect your sculpting!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 11:43:09
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Lady of the Lake
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Remove the noses and you have Tau heads though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 12:21:15
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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I'd also love to see berets and ponytails.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/15 14:48:38
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Foreheads are a bit elongated, eyes on a few are too far apart. Also, I think hair styles would be a bit short (to combat lice and entanglement). A little more chin as well.
Just constructive critique.
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