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Yeah,

I think these are going to be in the Space Elf lineup, Revliss is already starting work on the Human scale heads.

Are you saying that you are actually going to sell those?

Sorry, but slapping ELF on the title isn't going to change the fact that they need work.

@jp: it's not like they're obviously worse than some of the other stuff that's selling or been sold.

IF they paint up nicely and work like that, we will decide on producing them or not. Since many comments have been made at the elfin appearance, I will see if they will work like that, if not its back to the sculpting table from scratch.

Nick

Really John? Really?

@jp: Don't make me break out a Nagash or Lemartes to make my point!

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:combat barbie, this is why british army are superior!
(but only caus eof this 1 point)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8348243.stm

Holy hell that is hot.

Your graciousness in requesting comment is quite inspiring!

Well, to be fair, Revliss is the one who actually seems to be sculpting them, and so far he seems to be taking all the negative comments posted so far as insults against Asian women, or Asians in general, I'm not sure.

I never thought "Asian" when looking at them, I thought they looked alien...specifically Tau, except with noses. Personally I think the biggest problem is the spacing between the eyes, as it's been said. There's a couple of heads there that really aren't that bad, but then there's the one that someone pointed out where the chick's eye is on the side of her head: it's that kind of thing that really lets them down. That and some of their noses are awful pointy.

With a little more practice I'm confident you could make some really cool-looking heads, it's just that this specific batch isn't quite there yet.

Practice makes perfect, in the mean time we are working on the heads for the Warlock/Farseer Jetbike kits..

I am leaning towards the far Right one, those arent feathers, but my rough attempts at hair streaming in the wind from the bikes...

My opinion, the face has been made from one piece, so as the nose has been formed its deformed the cheaks making them too thin, additionaly the eyes just look carved on rather then like eyes.

Try this, make spheres up front the right size then embed them in the face, this will fatten the overal head, and give you much better eyes, 'add' the nose rather then draw it up out of the ovoid face.

Other then that, some real tallent in the hair and the overall shape and features, keep it up.


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oops, did not see the recent pictures, much better!

Please lose the anime vibe thing. They look like anime chicks, and that isn't a good thing as far as I'm concerned...

Come on guys... just wait for the painted version.
It will look way different painted.

Luna I politely point to Cheese E's post earlier about painting.

jp400 wrote:Luna I politely point to Cheese E's post earlier about painting.

Ok... just for your sake and effort i'll check. Normally i wouldnt bother >.>

Oh i read it , and yes it will.

Think make up!
In painting terms think of it this way.
If shadow and high lights can be faked via painting ,
there is nothing a good painting cannot fix.

But then again , i said it works because the way the eyes is sculpted goes perfectly on how i paint my eyes.
So maybe it doesnt work for others , but it'll work for me.

LunaHound wrote:Well guys lets try to include constructive feed back , or else we really arnt helping at all...

First off , the faces if are scultped to look asian are actually "normal" which asian's side profile is really er...flat.

Also the eyes are too wide apart for some of the minis .
As well as for the face to look sharp and stands out , the highest part of the cheek bones should be above the nose.
I know asians's cheek bone are like abit low to almost the bottom of the nose , I guess so it looks weird on miniatures.

oh well, at least there is going to be a female IG. My female er,"friend" is going to like that. And there going to be aisan, that's cool.

I've been playing with some heads myself, the definition between male and female is very slight at 28mm scale, it's not just the thin pointy chin, the cheaks need to be finer as well, tricky to describe, but I'll try and put some pictures up myself when I get it to work in a way I'm happy with!

Will however say it's much trickier then I thought it would be to make a clearly female head, so well done for firstly giving it a go, and secondly for making such a good go of it!

They don't look "asian", or even "anime" to me, they don't really look human!

They kind of look like a bad drawing, more than an actual miniature. Much has been said about the eyes, chin, nose etc., but it's also the absurd eyebrows that do it for me. They are just stuck on, not part of the models actual skull, like all the features are just raised edges added to a rough head shape.
They have a horrible "vague" look to them, like some historical miniatures. This is fine in smaller scale, but not really when it's 28mm 40k.

Thanks guys, we have an ex-Reaper employee doing some concepts for us to help us get a better idea of what we need to do.

Saying that (dont hate us please!) I will be making a production mold of these as I have had many players say they would like to use these as well as any new ones we release.

If you dont like these, wait for the new, more refined sculpts

I say keep at doing something different, that's the best market, be the leader, make others follow.