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is that guy a spaceball?

whats that???

a movie...





Dark Helmet: Before you die there is something you should know about us, Lone Star.
Lone Starr: What?
Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Lone Starr: What's that make us?
Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become.

oh, BTW... sorry, i didnt mean to set the thread off on such a tanget...

usernamesareannoying wrote:a movie...





Dark Helmet: Before you die there is something you should know about us, Lone Star.
Lone Starr: What?
Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Lone Starr: What's that make us?
Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing! Which is what you are about to become.

oh, BTW... sorry, i didnt mean to set the thread off on such a tanget...

Dark Helmet: "What's wrong Colonel Sanders? Are you Chicken?"
Col. Sanders: "No Sir!"
Dark Helmet: "Then prepare the ship for Ludicrous Speed!"

Oh Rick Morranis, you and Jim Carey made Hollywood love Canada


With the afro, if you decide to try again, go get a rag while the greenstuff is partially dry, and just lightly dab the afro with it. It'll give it a sort of rough texture. As it is right now, it's too smooth. It just looks like that Guardsman is wearing a huge ball of Swiss Cheese on his head.

And remember to do all your Greenstuff -before- you prime, as you'll have to prime it before painting.

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:so is the afro guards man good or bad?

Its a good idea mate maybe just lost in translation. I might change my mind when I see it painted, maybe.
It's probably more on the bad side of good!

well i can scrape of a couple of layers of green stuff as it was built up in layers

You really need to prime those models before painting mate.
I realize these are probably your first models, and for first models they look well like first models.

There are plenty of good tutorials on this site for painting or gs work. read through them, take your time.

Too be able to enjoy the painting-modelling aspect of this hobby you just really need one thing to start with and thats patience.

There are no real "easyfastmagiczomg" method to get good looking mini's just patience and ofcourse practice.

A few easy steps to follow:

1:Clean the models from mouldlines and other junk with a file or some sand paper (or both).

2: assemble the models with glue (use it sparingly).
Use something like a toothpick to apply it.


3: to ease painting you could just glue the torso,legs and head together. then keep the arms and guns separated just make sure everything fits first without glueing it.

4: Prime it! if using washes prime it white makes picking out detail easier(atleast for me). and also makes it easier to cover with paint.

5: start painting. A tip for the paints is tho thin them with some water, this is especially true when working with GW foundation paints.

When the colours are thinned it might be hard to cover but thats no problem just put on a few more coats (1 or 2 depending on how much you have thinned that paint.)
When the cover is good leave to dry.

6: Washing, use the washes but apply them with a small brush in the recesses of the figure, takes a while longer but the results are better.

after those six steps you got yourself some nice looking figures you could add more steps like highlighting/drybrushing but for now i think those 6 steps
would improve your guard greatly.

I hope you will have a great time in this great hobby.
Just remember Patience and Practise goes a long way.

GL and HF!

/Cato

yea i would normaly prime them but i needed hem done quick
will probably strip them prime then use fortress grey instead of codex grey

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:yea i would normaly prime them but i needed hem done quick
will probably strip them prime then use fortress grey instead of codex grey

I thought you said you did prime them...

When people offer you help or advice, be honest with them. It's the only way you'll improve.


That said, buy spray primer. It only takes a few seconds to apply. Surely you can spare that for quality. It'll actually make painting faster too, as the paint will stick better and dry faster. So you're actually making painting take longer by not priming them.

all ive said is ive put a coat or two of codex gray
black dot gray dots nothing about under coat / primer

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:all ive said is ive put a coat or two of codex gray
black dot gray dots nothing about under coat/ primer

But what's this then?

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:wow I feel bad every time I post something i get told it look like bare plastic I did an under coat of codex grey for the hundredth time!!!!!

Give em' a spray. You'll find that Krylon actually makes some decent plastic sprays, and they do have a flat grey in a near-codex-grey shade. It comes out thicker than GW's spray though, so just be careful if you decide to go that way. Otherwise, pick up some primer and give them a coat first. your results will improve tenfold.

ok so ive painted the afro and it look preety good

It still looks far too smooth in terms of texture, but it certainly looks better (If a little out-of-scale) than I expected.

Now strip those minis and prime em!

You could pit a pick in it and say he's still working on it...

well i've striped, undercoated and given a coat or two of fortress grey on the command squad
and I have too say they look much better
will have pics soon but may be at a later stage

sorry there hasnt been an update in a while since cameras died
well ive pretty much finished painting command squad
built second sentinel
and built my chimera
will post pics of all soon

Ok have been reading the cadian blood book and I love it
my guard are going to be mechanised and be the cadian 88th
the chimera Is the command chimera and I will put blood stains on the bottom of the front because of the raming bit at the begining "OK ramming speed"

It needs a bit of tidying...at first I thought he had a giant golf ball on his head, otherwise they don't look too bad

If you want some help with painting greys I would be happy to give you some advice or even a simple step by step, I only say this because although your minis do show promise and character, they are lacking depth of detail. I don't want this to sound condercending, in just offering help. A wash of 50/50 black and Scorched brown with a rehighlight of the base grey would bring out the detail a treat. You could go even further and add a final thin highlight of the base grey mixed with bleached bone or Dheneb stone.

It does take time, patients and practice to progress tho, so don't expect to be perfect first off.

thanks for the advice

The afro looks silly. Also, the greenstuff has to many 'lines' it it when two separate parts where joined.
As for the painting, first mix codex gray and black 1:1. This will give you a VERY dark mix. Great for a base coat color. Color the whole mini except for skin. Nest, highlight everything except the most recessed areas of the model with a 2:1 mix of codex gray and black. For the next highlight, and final, just use pure codex grey on the most raised points. Now, for the actual camo part, take the 1:1 mix again and add small splotches of thin paint in many different areas. Layer it on slightly to you get a good solid color with no loss of detail. Then, take fortress gray or astronomican gray and then do more splotches on different areas but in thin layers. Make sure the base color still shows though and remember, it is clothe and has a pattern, not complete randomness. Also, I would add a mechrite red or red gore to he flak armor and the shell of the gun. That way, the two colors complement each other and really make the model look good.

I was thinking about doing a urban theme for my guard ut I decided not to. The Model look great by the way.

It would be wise to primer your guardsmen black before you paint them.

thank you for al of your advice i will try most of this on my next one


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well ive watched spaceballs lol I loved it
and also ive read somemore of cadian blood
and instead of my original camo style I think will do cloth grey and armour black
does that sound good

right sorry about the no updates for a while
new things:
a leman Russ built not painted yet
a cammand squad stripped
primed and re painted
will post pics of the command squad later

Your colour scheme is a little too grey for my liking, too similar to the colour of the original plastic. Otherwise, cool.

Neat stuff. Love the command squad - they look real menacing!

Afro is amazing good one. And amazing paint job.

pic time
I think that the grey is better
the colour scheme is better
and the afro is much improved
comments??

Do are the bases any good havent't painted them yet but just an idea I had