Blood Angel codex thread

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**VictorVonTzeentch**

If you have 5 squads (one for every squad purchased) you get 5 members of the Death Company for free, at least thats what I thought the book said, the additional 35pts a model is if you want more DC members.

**Brother SRM**

Each squad costs more than it's Dark Angels counterpart as the cost of Death Company is included in the cost. It gives the illusion of being free.

**rdlb**

So...Is the codex out yet, are there any pictures or release info? Please, I'm gonna start drinking everyone's blood if I just keep reading the same rumors over and over.

Mmmmmmmmm...blood...

**gruntboy**

The Red Wings? Bwuhahaha! That's hilarious.

As for DC, illusion or not, the current allocation forces BA players to go one way or another. Take infantry choices and your death company grows, take dreads, vehicles, scouts (IIRC) and you minimize the heavy jump infantry. Overpriced or not, the main difference appears to be in whether or not you take 5 or 10 man squads. Take 5's in order to maximise the DC and you are indeed paying for the extra models.

As the DC are so integral to BA canon, the codex must clarify their usage in 5th E. Personally, I've always thought it odd that this centralised "company" of madmen was resplendent in every BA force...

**reds8n**

MachineSlave wrote:
reds8n wrote:
Some of the new metal models are gorgeous, very detailed.

Jumppacktastic in a lot of ways methinks.

Got any pics or know where we could find any? Otherwise can you line out what you have seen a bit further?

No, no and not really, for the moment I'm afraid.

There is, at least, "things" to do with at least 1 successor chapter indeed.. can't get anything past you lot can we ?

That is pretty much everything i know and all I can and will say on the matter for the moment. Things out in time though.

**Kveldulv**

Rhinos as assault vehicles I would definately like - then BA would be the new Mech Ork!

Other than that, I hope they really expand and develop the list. As it stands BA don't really warrant their own codex.

What about a sort of synapse? Let's say you had golden armoured officers and stern-faced chaplains keeping their brothers focused, but if they die then there's a good chance the bloodlust takes over - units succumb to Rage etc.

Furious charge on assault marines + options to take power weapons would be really funky, but prob. expensive.

**Alpharius**

rdlb wrote:So...Is the codex out yet, are there any pictures or release info? Please, I'm gonna start drinking everyone's blood if I just keep reading the same rumors over and over.

Mmmmmmmmm...blood...

You're going to have to wait until April 2010.

Well, for the codex, at least...

**Neith**

BrotherStynier wrote:If you have 5 squads (one for every squad purchased) you get 5 members of the Death Company for free, at least thats what I thought the book said, the additional 35pts a model is if you want more DC members.

Yeah, but in the Codex it says that the cost of 1 Death Company Marine is added onto the points cost of every infantry squad eligible to provide a DC Marine. That's why BA Tactical Squads are so expensive- you pay for the DC Marine, even if you a) don't take one or b) already have a 10-man squad (and therefore can't take any more). It sucks, DC should just have a points cost themselves. Give us no free DC but make them definitely worth using.

They're a great unit now (Furious Charge, FNP and Rending Attacks?), and led by a Chaplain/Lemartes they become lethal. It's just a shame they're so damned expensive.

**Brother SRM**

Kveldulv wrote:
What about a sort of synapse? Let's say you had golden armoured officers and stern-faced chaplains keeping their brothers focused, but if they die then there's a good chance the bloodlust takes over - units succumb to Rage etc.

I'm guessing that if Sanguinary High Priests are in there, they'll be able to give FNP to units in a radius. I'll keep on dreaming til I see the codex though.

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Ta daa! What the internet told me.

**reds8n**

I knew this would happen.

That is NOT the Blood Angel codex cover.

This is a 'shopped IMperial Fists piece of artwork , see the banner at the back on the right and the left shoulder pads on some of the marines. See the original piece.

**bhsman**

We should probably be seeing the codex cover soon enough, if the Nid and Space Wolves were anything to go by. We'll be entering the three-month window soon...

**Davor**

bhsman wrote:We should probably be seeing the codex cover soon enough, if the Nid and Space Wolves were anything to go by. We'll be entering the three-month window soon...

Unless it's in the Summer or after, so we could be waiting then from March to June. When do the GD events start to happen again? Maybe they will wait for the firs tone to start to say something? That is that they start soo that is.

**BrookM**

The Frenzy is in two weeks, so maybe a preview of sorts then?

**reds8n**

Let's hope so.

I'd imagine it'll be Battle Missions, if anything, though. I'll be intrigued to see if they "sneak" in any early BA/other new stuff in that book too. A kind of vanguard as it were of what's to come.

**BrookM**

Right, assault marines or something with jump packs.

**Flashman**

Glad you debunked the cover, I was about to start a rant about the declining quality of Codex cover art...

**reds8n**

This and the fake Grey Knights/Inquisition one have been doing the rounds for quite some time now.

**bhsman**

reds8n wrote:Let's hope so.

I'd imagine it'll be Battle Missions, if anything, though. I'll be intrigued to see if they "sneak" in any early BA/other new stuff in that book too. A kind of vanguard as it were of what's to come.

I can't see GW making some metal Vanguard vets just for the Blood Angels when the regular ones work well enough. I'm going to bet instead that you're referring to a catch-all plastic kit.

...I really, really hope they don't give us Vanguard Vets.

**BrookM**

*cough* Honour Guard *wheeze*

**Black Blow Fly**

I reckon the Flesh Tearers will have rules included in the new codex as they are just as popular if not moreso than their parent chapter (BA).

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**Sirius42**

If a single marine in this codex when it happens so much as thinks about trying to ride some kind of bat, i swear i'll kill someone/thing !!

Anyway, new Mephiston would be nice, but i'd really like rules for Seth, t'would be awesome.

**Dal'yth Dude**

I'm thinking any other chapter would be Flesh Tearers with Seth as the character. Not sure how they would be different in the SM character unlock design.

Aren't Flesh Tearers mostly in an infantry army with odd unit sizes? What would Seth give in terms of Space Marine character?

GW could make 5 plastic vanguard as a BA release but still make them generic enough other chapters would use them, particularly with the current vanguard set.

**bhsman**

Seth is the leader of a chapter that is dying not to the efforts of its enemies, but because so many of its members are going insane and falling to the Black Rage. If he's in the codex he'll probably allow you to take extra Death Company models.

**Dal'yth Dude**

I was thinking Seth might allow assault marines as troops if GW rescinded that current feature, but your idea could sell more Death Company models.

**bhsman**

Oh jeez I hope not :(

The main reason I played Blood Angels and am waiting to see how this codex turns out is because I was able to take RAS as troops in the first place. Tying that to Seth, or even Dante, would kill some of the fun.

**Breotan**

bhsman wrote:You're referring to the 3rd edition codex where there was random rolling. The 4th edition codex now gives you an optional Death Company member for every squad you purchase, at a cost of making the points for the Death Company mandatory (to a tune of anywhere from 35 to 45pts per model!).

So not only are you forced to pay for a unit of Death Company (whether you want it or not), but you're also overcharged for them.

Ya, I had forgotten about the WD "codex". Still, the DC is little more than a Chaplain and his bodyguard with special rules and really need to be organized that way instead of using the gimmics GW seems to depend on to make them fluffy.

**Kirasu**

How do you forget about a codex thats been out for over 2 years? As a very long time blood angel player I gotta say that the 3rd edition codex was just as dumb.. It also had almost no fluff and basically no "character" to it.. Most of the units were "see codex: SM" and the only unique things were what the "new" book has as well.

I actually think the WD book has MORE unique things such as veteran assault squads that dont suck, assault squads as troops, DC dreadnoughts

Yeah we lost furious charge on everything and the stupid random DC generation (yes it was stupid) but thats fine. Ive won just fine with the WD codex, however I will admit its fairly limiting

The old 3rd ed book was JUST as limiting tho so seeing the old book through rosey glasses doesnt make it any better in terms of creativity and options

**Dal'yth Dude**

bhsman: I'm there with you on taking RAS as troops. That and VAS is why I chose the army. I'm just not yet sure what GW will do and I wouldn't put it past them to require a character to do something the current list can do now.

**bhsman**

Actually, I could see them doing something like allowing RAS as troops, but making VAS troops if you take Dante as an HQ.

Oh god.