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Fateweaver wrote:Insult too many females and your date for prom will be a gym sock and a bottle of lotion.

Shadowbrand wrote:That's better then what i did for prom.

Story's not dakka appropriate though.

Fateweaver wrote:

Insult too many females and your date for prom will be a gym sock and a bottle of lotion.

That's a lot quicker though.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Sitting in German class the other day, I hear a girl talk to Frau(the teacher) complaining of something called "North Talk".
Apparently, a bunch of asswipes decided to start a facebook group making fun of people. And not the good natured ribbing amoungst friends, but cruel, outright lies.

Apparently, a few guys made this group and, everynight, without fail, log on at 6:00, and pick one random person or person to publish outright lies of.

The school is still looking for the ones who did, and a few expulsion hearings ahve been made. They couldn't get expelled becauseof cyber bullying during school, so they
ended up hooking them on some technicality. A few of these jerks have yet to get punished.

Hang on, kids got expelled for being mean on the internet?

That seems like a pretty harsh punishment.

sebster wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Sitting in German class the other day, I hear a girl talk to Frau(the teacher) complaining of something called "North Talk".
Apparently, a bunch of asswipes decided to start a facebook group making fun of people. And not the good natured ribbing amoungst friends, but cruel, outright lies.

Apparently, a few guys made this group and, everynight, without fail, log on at 6:00, and pick one random person or person to publish outright lies of.

The school is still looking for the ones who did, and a few expulsion hearings ahve been made. They couldn't get expelled becauseof cyber bullying during school, so they
ended up hooking them on some technicality. A few of these jerks have yet to get punished.

Hang on, kids got expelled for being mean on the internet?

That seems like a pretty harsh punishment.

If any were perceived as threats they could get them on making terroristic threats.

Could also get them for slander. Lying to hurt someone's reputation/name/identity is a no no. Not sure if their are legal repercussions but it would be enough to get them kicked out.

I like making fun of less-than-intelligent people.

I actually chose Makr as my username because I once managed to convince a few people that it was my real name because someone messed up on my Birth Certificate (real name is Mark).

I speak in a monotone and so people have no way of telling when I'm lying. It actually appears to me that I always look like I am lying, since I manage to get searched by TSA every time.

slow!!! Ha, wait, you might get kicked from dakka if somebody found out.

Well GES, i'm gonna be honest, what you did to that girl wasn't really nice. In fact it.. it was jsut uncalled for. i mean waht happened after ward?

Fateweaver wrote:

sebster wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Sitting in German class the other day, I hear a girl talk to Frau(the teacher) complaining of something called "North Talk".
Apparently, a bunch of asswipes decided to start a facebook group making fun of people. And not the good natured ribbing amoungst friends, but cruel, outright lies.

Apparently, a few guys made this group and, everynight, without fail, log on at 6:00, and pick one random person or person to publish outright lies of.

The school is still looking for the ones who did, and a few expulsion hearings ahve been made. They couldn't get expelled becauseof cyber bullying during school, so they
ended up hooking them on some technicality. A few of these jerks have yet to get punished.

Hang on, kids got expelled for being mean on the internet?

That seems like a pretty harsh punishment.

If any were perceived as threats they could get them on making terroristic threats.

Could also get them for slander. Lying to hurt someone's reputation/name/identity is a no no. Not sure if their are legal repercussions but it would be enough to get them kicked out.

Actually, it's a big push that's been going on since there've been some suicides/attempts at violence over the past few years related to cyber-bullying. My youngest brother gets these little newsletters sent home with him every Monday where the parents have to return them to ensure they know the kind of material the kids are posting on their Facebook/MySpace/whatever sites.
It's a very interesting thing to read, because from a common sense point of view: no way in Hell can that be legal to control content posted outside of the school.

JEB_Stuart wrote:

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:Good God, woman you really are stupid

And so GES will have to resort to taking his cousin to Homecoming....again.... Listen hear lad: Don't call the women stupid if you want to have a date at all!

JEB wins the thread.

Homecoming's for losers anyways.

The homecoming parties, however, are no joke.

Ketara wrote:I once convinced a fairly stupid, but sweet girl that ginger people were illegal in Japan. As proof, I cited the lack of ginger Japanese people. When she asked what they'd done with them, I told her they'd been deported to Australia. It was cruel, but damned funny.

LMAO! I about fell off my chair reading this.

I once convinced my little sister that there was a race of people with dog heads called "balverines" living in the Florida alps. I also showed her that if you lift a quarter up to the sun you can cover it, so the sun must be the same size as a quarter, ala "Calvin and Hobbes". In all fairness she was 5 at the time.

You have fethed up the mind of a 5-year-old. Congratulations.

Emperors Faithful wrote:You have fethed up the mind of a 5-year-old. Congratulations.

One day at a time, one brain at a time, all in a day's work. Who did you think the evil genius behind Hannah Montana was? MUHUAHAHAAAHAA

Emperors Faithful wrote:

dogma wrote:

I got in a few fights in high school. They got swept under the rug. Its all a matter of context, witnesses, and the opinion people have of you. Is it fair? No. But it is pretty good training for the rest of your life.

Also, in most cases, the person you believe to have 'started the fight' was in fact simply speaking derisively. When you throw a punch (or tackle, or kick, etc.) you start the fight.

Quote For Fething Truth.

As a nasty little scrapper in my younger years I swiftly learnt that the whole 'he started it' doesn't quite jell when you kick them in the nuts and tackle them to the ground becuase they called you gay. Surprisingly, outright ignoring them and thier insults doesn't work as well as actually laughing along and joking with them. Heck, doing so can actually get you a few mates.

no, not as in they insulted me startiung the fight, but physically attacking me and i fight back to defend myself, i get five days of suspension, they get two days.

Yeah, right. I'm sure that's exactly what happened.

Emperors Faithful wrote:Yeah, right. I'm sure that's exactly what happened.

Nope. Zero tolerance in the public school system requires that if being harassed--you run like a girl and tell.

I had the same thing happen to me my freshman year, when all I did was a simple sweep-kick on some fether who gave me a black eye.

It's silly, but currently responding to violence with violence(even defensive violence)--you get into MORE trouble than the person who initiated.

The idea is to prevent escalation.

Well, MORE may be an exaggeration, but if you gave as good as you got, the school will likely look on you as bad as the bloke who started it.

What the school is trying to teach people is that if a guy hits you, don't bash his head in with a brick. (However tempting the choice may be)

Emperors Faithful wrote:Well, MORE may be an exaggeration, but if you gave as good as you got, the school will likely look on you as bad as the bloke who started it.

What the school is trying to teach people is that if a guy hits you, don't bash his head in with a brick. (However tempting the choice may be)

So just knocking someone down to go get an adult is "giving as good as you got"?

Because it's incidents like that which are getting to be pretty common.

That's how your story may go. But who do the teachers believe? The one that ran to them first?

The teachers are told not to "believe" anyone.

They're told to just dole out the punishments, as according.

1) 2x days(minimum) for whoever begun the fight.
2) 2-3 days(minimum) for the other participants in the fight.

And your problem with this is?

If you're a fast learner, you'll realise that the claim of self-defense doesn't go down well in schools. Is it fair? No. Is there an alternative other than a full scale, time-wasting investigation? Not really.

A quick thinker realises to either beat thier ass down while making sure the teachers don't get involved (which is pretty much impossible in school areas) or to simply ignore them and defuse the situation. Personally, I'm against going to teachers, you don't need that sort of reputation. Unless my brothers are involved, then it's a whole different ball game.

Emperors Faithful wrote:And your problem with this is?

If you're a fast learner, you'll realise that the claim of self-defense doesn't go down well in schools. Is it fair? No. Is there an alternative other than a full scale, time-wasting investigation? Not really.

A quick thinker realises to either beat their ass down while making sure the teachers don't get involved (which is pretty much impossible in school areas) or to simply ignore them and defuse the situation. Personally, I'm against going to teachers, you don't need that sort of reputation. Unless my brothers are involved, then it's a whole different ball game.

EF--the problem isn't so much that there's a "claim of self-defense" or no investigations(although it IS stupid as all hell that you'll dish out punishments without bothering to do any checking--especially in a clique heavy environment where people WILL cover for each other).

The problem is that your idea of "realizing to either beat their ass down while making sure the teachers don't get involved or to simply ignore them and defuse the situation" isn't always an option.

During my entire time in high school, there were a good five fights that I ended up in. Of those, I can only think of one that wasn't some idiot trying to impress his friends and getting taken down a peg by losing a fight against the "nerd" he was picking on.

The biggest problem, for me, with the way the American Public School System currently operates?

They do not properly utilize the security measures they have in place. If they bothered to check some of these video cameras, or let the resource officers actually deal with the situations(like they're TOLD to)--you wouldn't get nearly as many kids being sent home for self defense.
There were dozens of incidents I could think of where people I knew got into trouble for something as simple as throwing a return punch--but because a teacher or a principal, rather than an impartial LEO was involved, the "popular" kid or the kid on the sports team didn't get into trouble, while the kid who they thought was a bit off got the book thrown at them.

Kanluwen wrote:There were dozens of incidents I could think of where people I knew got into trouble for something as simple as throwing a return punch--but because a teacher or a principal, rather than an impartial LEO was involved, the "popular" kid or the kid on the sports team didn't get into trouble, while the kid who they thought was a bit off got the book thrown at them.

That's unavoidable. No one is impartial, least on all in the collegial setting of a high school.

Keep in mind, we're not talking about a jail sentence here.

dogma wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:There were dozens of incidents I could think of where people I knew got into trouble for something as simple as throwing a return punch--but because a teacher or a principal, rather than an impartial LEO was involved, the "popular" kid or the kid on the sports team didn't get into trouble, while the kid who they thought was a bit off got the book thrown at them.

That's unavoidable. No one is impartial, least on all in the collegial setting of a high school.

Keep in mind, we're not talking about a jail sentence here.

Yeah, but it sure as hell isn't fair when someone is forced to miss their own graduation because of some jerk throwing a punch at 'em for no reason other than "parking too close to their spot".

Kanluwen wrote:

dogma wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:There were dozens of incidents I could think of where people I knew got into trouble for something as simple as throwing a return punch--but because a teacher or a principal, rather than an impartial LEO was involved, the "popular" kid or the kid on the sports team didn't get into trouble, while the kid who they thought was a bit off got the book thrown at them.

That's unavoidable. No one is impartial, least on all in the collegial setting of a high school.

Keep in mind, we're not talking about a jail sentence here.

Yeah, but it sure as hell isn't fair when someone is forced to miss their own graduation because of some jerk throwing a punch at 'em for no reason other than "parking too close to their spot".

Then don't fight back.

If you have a feeling there's even a chance of something like that, why would you not walk away? That's what my friend did back in HS. He didn't risking anything senior year.

I always loved the solution of "don't fight back and your face pounded in".

Kanluwen wrote:I always loved the solution of "don't fight back and your face pounded in".

Never happened to me. You don't just stand there being beat on, you walk away.

That said, I can take a hit.

So can I, doesn't mean I should have to.

You don't have to. Being suspended for a few days isn't a big deal.