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Ahtman wrote:Have we already forgotten about the white firefighters that sued for discrimination and won?

However, they actually were being discriminated against, while as far as I am aware, sporting teams will usually want the best players, rather than someone who happens to make up some kind of race quota.

Or how about that Supreme court judge woman person. If it has been a white man who made those remarks, he'd be locked up now probably.

SilverMK2 wrote:

Ahtman wrote:Have we already forgotten about the white firefighters that sued for discrimination and won?

However, they actually were being discriminated against, while as far as I am aware, sporting teams will usually want the best players, rather than someone who happens to make up some kind of race quota.

That was in response to the 'it's ok to advertise hiring minorities' thought that was put forth.

Ah, sorry Ahtman.

Although this guy is a racist gakhole, the small grain of truth in his words 'the game has gone to gak' is not cos of colour but because of the fact that sports personalities, especially in the US, are treated like kings from childhood and given everything they want.
Football, American football and basketball would be better if we lost the showboating 'in it for me, not the team' attitude of players.

I cant read this thread, especially the part about crotch grabbing, without thinking of that Simpsons episode where Homer teaches the sports stars how to celebrate in an unsportsmanlike fashion.

Bluntman wrote:Although this guy is a racist gakhole, the small grain of truth in his words 'the game has gone to gak' is not cos of colour but because of the fact that sports personalities, especially in the US, are treated like kings from childhood and given everything they want.
Football, American football and basketball would be better if we lost the showboating 'in it for me, not the team' attitude of players.

This phenomenon is not limited to America by a long shot. Premiership football anyone? Actually, the fact that many american athletes start out by playing for a college is in marked contrast to the way soccer academies produce players. Money is the corrupting influence. Whenever a sport is lead by money, said sport becomes 'entertainment', which leads to showmanship.

Hmm, upon reading what the OP posted, it reminded me of this..

Gwar! wrote:The problem is, it would never even GET to court!

I have studied discrimination law and it has examples of cases where even apparently casual racism/discrimination resulted in prosecution and heavy fines.

In the UK -- I don't know about Ireland or the USA.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Gwar! wrote:The problem is, it would never even GET to court!

I have studied discrimination law and it has examples of cases where even apparently casual racism/discrimination resulted in prosecution and heavy fines.

In the UK -- I don't know about Ireland or the USA.

I would humbly suggest that the commission for racial equality was one of the bodies set up to argue against cases of discrimination, both direct and indirect, in court.

De jure, yes.
De facto, not so much imo.

Also, Kilkrazy, when did you go to Japan??

Gwar! wrote:Or how about that Supreme court judge woman person. If it has been a white man who made those remarks, he'd be locked up now probably.

For saying 'I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.'

You think a white man would have been arrested for saying 'I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life'... under what law? Stop being stupid.

Gwar! wrote:De jure, yes.
De facto, not so much imo.

Also, Kilkrazy, when did you go to Japan??

Boxing Day.

My wife is Japanese and I own a house there.

I'm back in the UK now.

Me and my buddies are gonna start an all black swimming team, We won't last long because our guns would weigh us down and we'd be grabbing our crotches while we drown. Michal Phelps already took the weed smoking gimmick as well.

@Sexiest_hero - I LOL'd!

Albatross wrote:

Bluntman wrote:Although this guy is a racist gakhole, the small grain of truth in his words 'the game has gone to gak' is not cos of colour but because of the fact that sports personalities, especially in the US, are treated like kings from childhood and given everything they want.
Football, American football and basketball would be better if we lost the showboating 'in it for me, not the team' attitude of players.

This phenomenon is not limited to America by a long shot. Premiership football anyone? Actually, the fact that many american athletes start out by playing for a college is in marked contrast to the way soccer academies produce players. Money is the corrupting influence. Whenever a sport is lead by money, said sport becomes 'entertainment', which leads to showmanship.

I have a disbane for footballers who are made up of barely literate, rapists and violent thugs that get paid 1000 times more than a nurse to kick a ball around. I gave the US as an example seeing as US universities let sportmen with no acedemic ability in and pay for them to go just cos they have a brutal 3 pointer or can tackle well.

Bluntman somewhat unfortunately wrote: I have a disbane for footballers who are made up of barely literate, rapists and violent thugs

I am a big fan of irony.

I'm white and I'm born a US citizen. I just suck at b-ball. Life just isn't fair.

Albatross wrote:I am a big fan of irony.

People think the internet is chaos but it really isn't, there are laws. In any thread even vaguely related to politics, someone will get compared to the Nazis. No matter how horrible something is, someone will turn up to defend it. Whatever weird pairing of fictional characters you think of, there is already slash fiction of it. If you complain about someone else's education you will spell something incorrectly.