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Asherian Command wrote:well just saying the soliders in Avatar are IG cadians.............
So wtf?
No, you said they were a rip off. Which would require Cadians to be an original creation.
I think the geek community needs to move past this idea that having similar elements in two properties means one is a copy of the other and therefore bad.
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Lord Demon wrote:And why can everything connect with everything? What is the evolutionary point to it? But in the end i found it nice enough if you dont think to much about it.
The idea was that Pandoran evolution was heavily influenced by the lving tree network thingie.
It's actually the flipside of 40K in one sense. In 40K they take the myths of fascism and make them true, thought crime really is deadly, one traitor can destroy a planet, there really are mutant subversives living among us, and they make that true. In Avatar they take all the myths of nu-age, environmental hippie claptrap and make it true, there actually is a conscious mother earth, the natives really are connected to the planet.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
What I hated most was Sully was a Marine. Yet in the end battle he shows no sense of how to fight a marine. Cavalry charge a line of machineguns?
I mean the Ewoks fought smarter than he did.
things i hated? The constant "i see you" hug the earth theme. All the trailers were brilliant but we ended up with 2 hours of waiting for the real action to start, and then its over in 20 mins. such a let down.
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MadEdric wrote:What I hated most was Sully was a Marine. Yet in the end battle he shows no sense of how to fight a marine. Cavalry charge a line of machineguns?
I mean the Ewoks fought smarter than he did.
hey, who said soldiers were intelligent? There's a reason they never went into business you know.
Also, when tanks first came out in WW1 the polish cavalry charged them! "da da da, da da da, da da da da da, CLANG!"
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MadEdric wrote:What I hated most was Sully was a Marine. Yet in the end battle he shows no sense of how to fight a marine. Cavalry charge a line of machineguns?
I mean the Ewoks fought smarter than he did.
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
CruelCoin wrote:Also, when tanks first came out in WW1 the polish cavalry charged them! "da da da, da da da, da da da da da, CLANG!"
There was no independant Poland during WWI, the nation had been partitioned and taken over by Austria, Russia and Germany. Poles were conscripted to fight in the armies of each of those powers. Polish cavalry never engaged tanks. The Germans only deployed 15 tanks throughout WWI, they were first deployed in April 1918, a month after ceasefire was achieved on the Eastern front. So no Polish unit, cavalry or otherwise, ever engaged Germans tanks in WWI.
There is a myth about Polish Lancers charging German tanks in WWII at the Battle of Krojanty but it is just that, a myth, created by Goebels propaganda machine. In WWII Polish Lancers were like all cavalry of the age, mobile skirmishes that carried rifles and machine guns, and were supported by armoured cars. They were very valuable in the conditions of Eastern Europe as roads were rare and generally of poor quality, and a horse could move a soldier a long way without needing resupply, at which point the soldier could dismount to fight. The Germans deployed very similar units against the Poles, and would make use of Cossacks in much the same role later in the war. These units were used for reconaissance and as mobile reserves, and of the handful of cavalry charges that occurred, almost all were successful as they were used as surprise attacks against unprepared opposition.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
hey, who said soldiers were intelligent? There's a reason they never went into business you know.
Also, when tanks first came out in WW1 the polish cavalry charged them! "da da da, da da da, da da da da da, CLANG!"
I find it humorous you question the intelligence of soldiers and then follow it with the Polish cavalry attacking tanks in WWI...
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I hate all the threads that have popped up about it on every forum on the internet. If it weren't for all the hate/fanboyism I'd have forgotten about it already.
Is it just me, or wasn't the marines on Pandora there as private security force, not as marines? So before when someone asked why they didn't have nukes... it's 'cause they are a company? Beyond that, suspension of disbelief, enjoy a visually stimulating movie. Who cares if its Pocahontas/Last Samuria/Dances with Wolves in space... There's nothing original under the sun...
Things that bugged me... not much, saw it twice, first time I've seen 3d done naturally and not as a gimmick, looked fantastic.
More versatile chasis. This way it can be used as a weapon platform, as engineer platform, a resupply platform... maybe they were thinking ahead when they designed it.
Or the other argument of it being a work chasis (a la Alien's power forklift) that was retrofitted into a fighting platform...
The knife... yeah...
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You could easily see what was going to happen 10 minutes ahead. Cliche's out the ass and most of all those arrows they fired were just like bolt throwers...
Was an enjoyable movie to the point of the special effects, plot wise it would have been more sound to say a 16yr old wrote it on her lunch break.
Emperors Faithful wrote:I disliked the fact that you knew exactly what was going to happen all along. When the guy gets on the horse, we all knew he was going to fall off but we'd love him anyway. *blegh*
But truth be told I've seen worse movies.
So what's the answer? Have him get on the horse and miraculously control a beast he had never ridden before, not to mention he was in a foreign body?
I can see it now, he miraculously rides the horse without falling off, and people will say. "You know I hated the whole "Kwisatz Haderach" tie in...They really ripped off Dune there"
Deminyn wrote:Now Dune, there's a bad movie, all of them, there hasn't been a good anything made off Dune yet.
The mini-series Sci-Fi did wasn't bad. Have you seen those?
Have it, still doesn't due it justice, not by a long shot. Maybe alright as a stand alone sci fi, but not if you compare it to Dune.
I suppose I can agree with that. I own the DVDs for Dune and Children of Dune so I've watched them both several times through. The budget wasn't insanely high but they're excellent for what they are.
Considering the fact that James Cameron's plot was lacking/stolen maybe he should have just obtained the rights to a Dune movie? Can you imagine Dune with Avatar's budget? I think it is safe to say you'd have a dynasty as big or bigger than Star Wars.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
I think the thing I hate most about Avatar is how much everyone is still talking about how much they hate it. Seriously, it was an ok movie which was lacking in originality (that is the majority opinion) that won awards. Shouldn't we be complaining about Twilight ending the world or how GW is going to raise their prices next week? I know it's true cuz a guy who knows a friend of a red shirt told me.
forum on the internet. If it weren't for all the hate/fanboyism I'd have forgotten about it already.
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