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Yes, I think the next edition is scheduled for July. What is this information you refer to? I haven't seen anything specific, so a link would be much appreciated.

03bbrevenge wrote:GW has put out some information that DE will be out before Christmas this year. that would be the next codex since June is spearhead, and they are releasing or at least rumored to be releasing a new edition of Fantasy this year

If GW had come out and said such a thing it'd be all over the various Dark Eldar rumor threads, except it's not

i do vaguely recall GW mentioning the next army would be a fleet based one..

Now that could mean one of two different things..

1. A Fleet based Army (as in space-ship fleet) IE Dark Angels or Black Templars

or

2. A Fleet based Army (as in fleet-of-foot) IE Eldar or Dark Eldar (cant remember any other races that have fleet)

I personally hope its Eldar or Dark Eldar.. another Marine dex would be so Meh.

ZeroWolf wrote:I personally hope its Eldar or Dark Eldar.. another Marine dex would be so god-awfully rage causing!!!

fixed.

hmm I never thought of that for fleet. I'm kind of afraid for them doing non SM armies, the Tyranids seem lackluster and have tons of units with no modles (not that I mind. It just seems to me that SM books like SW and BA got more love than the Tyranids.

Oh yeah . Give us Chaos! Return to 3.5!

ZeroWolf wrote:i do vaguely recall GW mentioning the next army would be a fleet based one..

Now that could mean one of two different things..

1. A Fleet based Army (as in space-ship fleet) IE Dark Angels or Black Templars.

Or Tau.

I wouldn't mind Grey Knights (or more preferably, Inquisition as a whole, sororitas included. And since I presume everything we've been told is still a lie ("Its NOT SPACE HULK!" any one?) then my hope would be Dark Eldar (or better yet, a new race that captures the fast glass cannon theme of the DE, but arnt elves in space. But also give us an excuse to keep the slave girl figures around, or have new, better versions of the slave girls around )

Id wager that they way they would be released is in that order.

However, if a fleet based Space Marine chapter comes out, I'd like to see the Imperial Fists come out, with the Black Templars given the successor chapter treatment as shown with the Blood Angel successor chapters.

ZeroWolf wrote:i do vaguely recall GW mentioning the next army would be a fleet based one..

Now that could mean one of two different things..

1. A Fleet based Army (as in space-ship fleet) IE Dark Angels or Black Templars

or

2. A Fleet based Army (as in fleet-of-foot) IE Eldar or Dark Eldar (cant remember any other races that have fleet)

I personally hope its Eldar or Dark Eldar.. another Marine dex would be so Meh.

Or the leading theory that this rumor was about the Flesh Tearers, especially if you quote the whole text which goes "Blood Angels are half the story"

If new DE hit in the next few months I expect no less than 30-40 Dakkaites to keel over... Not that I would want such a thing but given how adamant some are that the DE are gone for good.

ZeroWolf wrote:i do vaguely recall GW mentioning the next army would be a fleet based one..

Now that could mean one of two different things..

1. A Fleet based Army (as in space-ship fleet) IE Dark Angels or Black Templars

or

2. A Fleet based Army (as in fleet-of-foot) IE Eldar or Dark Eldar (cant remember any other races that have fleet)

I personally hope its Eldar or Dark Eldar.. another Marine dex would be so Meh.

Tyranids have fleet, dont they? My bro has our families nids book, so I cant just look.

As much as I hope It's Chaos (because everyone of us, deep down inside, wishes for our army to be updated, and I want my Books of the Gods back, Warp Take It), I think Dark Eldar are the most deserving. They've gone a while without an Update, and anyone brave/foolish enough to stick with them really needs a bone thrown at them

Normally, GW releases codices "Imperial, Xenos, Imperial, Xenos..." (I did say NORMALLY, I know there have been instances in the past where this has not been true), so, if GW keeps that trend, after BA will be a new Xenos codex.

A lot of evidence points to Tau as the next xenos codex, what with the new fluff mentioned in the new Nids codex, and the experimental resculpts seen at Gamesday, not to mention FW coming out with a lot of new models (which means nothing, I know, but it does show that GW/FW are doing a lot with Tau).

That's what my money's on.

I have seen zero evidence that Tau are the next xenos codex, I've seen zero evidence of them even being worked on or have a writer assigned to them.

meh, rumors being rumors; somebody was saying that they had already started on the codex. As an army, Tau sell pretty well from what I've seen; heck look at all the people starting Tau in the forums here. So Tau being next is just as valid as any other army until something definitive escapes the GW lockdown.

agnosto wrote:As an army, Tau sell pretty well from what I've seen;

Tau do sell pretty well - probably about as well as any other major non-SM army. That doesn't mean they'll leapfrog past the 3E books.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Tau do sell pretty well - probably about as well as any other major non-SM army. That doesn't mean they'll leapfrog past the 3E books.

They did in 4th.

While there is no information currently to say this, man I hope Chaos get a new dex sometime this year or at the very least an interim PDF update. If the next dex is another Marine dex (like BT, DA, GK etc), it would be a huge cause for rage. The game is called Warhammer 40k and not Spacemarine 40k for a reason.

In the grim darkness of the future, there is only Space Marine!

Given that 1/3 of the Codices are SM Codices, GW is going to average 1/3 of all releases being SMs. And with most of the SM Codices being second-tier variants, they don't get updated quite so often when you look at updates over time. I mean, look at how long SW & BA waited for their official updated books.

Right now, GW is pushing out SW & BA as easy gap fillers leading up to WFB8 and the "problem" armies with 3E Codices, so this is a blip in the grand scheme of things.

Now that BA & SW are out of the way, we won't see updates for them in quite a while.

I'm looking forward to the new Necron dex sooner rather than later.

I believe that the next codex will be DE, because of all the test playing that i have been hearing about. I just hope that they make it balance


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Oh yeah . Give us Chaos! Return to 3.5!

The good guys sell better than the bad guys. Amongst the good guys it's the Space Marines who are the clear favorites, hence GW caters to them. I guess it's the cool thing to rage against Space Marines

The three armies with the oldest non-updated codices are Daemonhunters, Necrons and Dark Eldar. And all three have some heavy rumors going on, with Dark Eldar/Grey Knights seemingly scheduled for release in 2010 (with no fixed order) and Necrons for early 2011. Tau rumors barely existent and Chaos isn't even getting a single whisper. Hopefully GW will start by clearing the oldest codices first, which is apparently what they're doing.

How can you call members of the imperium good? They're racist warrior monks who fight for a tyrannic dictatorship that's a total mess, run by corrupt evil men who worship a dying and rotting corpse. How's that being the good guys?

There are no good guys in 40k. Everyone has their motives. Hell, some people call Tau good guys, but, in all honesty, they're just naive, and a socialist government with a convert-or-die-but-they-spin-it-to-make-it-look-like-it-was-liberation attitude.

Actually they still harm you even if you join them. I think I read or heard somewhere that the tau castrate the gue'seva who join them.

They are the good guys by virtue of being the human faction. They are space knights in super armor that fight for humanity. That's what someone who's new to the game will perceive them as because that's how they are presented in their codices and that makes them the popular choice. And you seem to forget chapters like the Ultramarines and Salamanders who actually fight for the people instead of out of battlelust or desire for war.

Ah, but when almost every major event happens that leaves dozens of worlds destroyed and the imperium reeling, it seems that the ultramarines are conviently and safely located on the other side of the galaxy. Now the salamanders, well I have to give you that one.

Munch Munch! wrote:Actually they still harm you even if you join them. I think I read or heard somewhere that the tau castrate the gue'seva who join them.

Nothing in fluff about that, unless you consider a video game fluff.

I don't know what is scheduled next for release but Phil Kelly is confirmed to be writing an Inquisition codex for release inside 9-10 months. It's meant to be a lot more balanced for competitive play and it seems likely their goal is to unify DH and WH.

Factoring playtesting, this means its likely not the next codex to be released but it's the only codex 100% confirmed to be in the progress of being written.

Actually it's only rumored to be Phil Kelly in charge and Jervis has come out and said that the Inquisition will not be unified. Not sure where you got your information, but you're better off reading this page for something more accurate

candy.man wrote: If the next dex is another Marine dex (like BT, DA, GK etc), it would be a huge cause for rage. The game is called Warhammer 40k and not Spacemarine 40k for a reason.

Why?

Once you update one space marine codex, the rest fall in place pretty easily. After making sure the "special powers" you give them are remotely balanced, you copy/paste the rest of the crap and print it. The BT and DA already have upgrade sprues, so no new models are really needed.

So because it delays other codexes by a few months they shouldn't do it? Seems to me that in this economy, cranking out easy books that will sell and add to your cash flow so that you will be around long enough for the harder-to-write codex is a sound practice.

Whatever it is, it better be something that's stuck with a 3E codex, like DE, 'crons, WH. or DH. If Tau, Eldar, CSM, or another marine chapter gets it I'm not buying another GW product until they start supporting armies that actually need it.

kronk wrote:The BT and DA already have upgrade sprues, so no new models are really needed.

The BT sprue doesn't stand on it's own, so it needs a major update, a la Space Wolves.

But yeah, it's a no-brainer to collect the easy money to fund development of more complex stuff, like the new Nids, and presumed Necrons / Inquisition.