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Clay Williams wrote:They are trying to reach out to the heart of the player base. Making marines fat just makes the majority of the audience feel in touch with the movie they are watching.

C'mon now Clay - you know what they say about glass houses and all that!

Really guys - as you've read by now, these aren't the 'final' designs.

I'd bet there are more than a few more iterations left before we get there.

They like they were posted to a fast food planet and put on some weight.

At least it's a start. The detail is nice. The overall form, however, needs work.

It's tough to go from what we all are familiar with in our minis to something that's supposed to be more "true to reality". With all the cool stuff power armor is supposed to do, it would be a hell of a lot more detailed than what our miniature models show! Same with the idea of having a 7 foot tall human killing machine fit into said armor and look proportional.

Summary of this thread

Initial post - Cool, check this pics

poster 1 - There're out of proportion
poster 2 - They aren't meant to be in proportion. These are just quick concept models for colours and insignia
poster 3- There're out of proportion
poster 4- There're out of proportion
poster 5- There're out of proportion
poster 2- They aren't MEANT to be in proportion
poster 6- There're out of proportion
poster 7- There're out of proportion
poster 8- There're out of proportion
poster 2- THEY AREN'T MEANT TO BE IN PROPORTION!!!!!
poster 9- There're out of proportion

And so on until thread lock.

Thankyou Leggy!
thought I should break the pattern and have two consecutive posts saying that THEY AREN'T THE FINAL DESIGNS!!!

Wait for the final designs, if they are badly proprtioned then let loose with acid saliva.

I would stock up on plenty of spitoons that can withstand the corrosion. There will be a lot of dissent from the cognicenti about the final product. There always is

Personally I like them. I don't necesarily care if the helmet is a bit short or the pads are too small.

It's a fricken Ultramarines movie people!! Look at the big picture. We are getting to see an Spacemarine movie!!

Sheesh

GG

There is some thing not quite right with all the Helmets , and from head on they look like a bunch of severely gravitationally challenged Fattys...and I'm Fat so that is saying some thing.

The side shots and the top and bottom shots they don't look fat though...

Oh Dear

There is no hope with the proles Winston

The concept art (the drawing, not the renders) looks fantastic. The proportions are not correct for a human, but they look great for a space marine. The shoulder-pads aren't huge, but still pretty substantial.

I am confident that they will go back and make the 3D's more similar to the concept art.

The it will be epic.

generalgrog wrote:Personally I like them. I don't necesarily care if the helmet is a bit short or the pads are too small.

It's a fricken Ultramarines movie people!! Look at the big picture. We are getting to see an Spacemarine movie!!

Sheesh

GG

Good call GG.

In addition i would also add aren't these going to be using that motion capture technology. Presumably they have models based upon how real humans are put together/move ergo why the mock ups will look different from the models which are as we all know out of proportion to the fluff. Sorry I meant Heroic Scale!

Couldnt they have looked to Relic for some concept art though? Its not like they haven't been making good looking marines for a while.

My one thing I hope they catch by the time these are no longer "Color and Symbol" references are the fact that the torsos are not actually sitting on the lower body.

Makes them look kinda like Orks in powerarmor.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Oh Dear

There is no hope with the proles Winston

But... But I thought if there was any hope it lay with the proles!

Seriously though. N-o-t f-i-n-a-l d-e-s-i-g-n.

these look very cool, but they are a work in progress, things like the ultramarines symbol in front of the commander's face should be reconsidered for if he needs to take his helmet off then it will be in the way

I like how Proteus looks in the middle picture.

Those marines aint fat, they are big boned !

Supa-Sized Husky Marines!

But it's bizzare they couldn't just take a basic GW render mesh (which GW has for their molds) and stretch it to match an Adi Smith pic.

The real problem is the heads are too big.

They need tiny little peanut heads!

slayer138 wrote:Those marines aint fat, they are big boned !

"Yea that's what they all say, fatty."

metallifan wrote:

slayer138 wrote:Those marines aint fat, they are big boned !

"Yea that's what they all say, fatty."

Mabe they have thyroid problems?

You're a thyroid problem.

They're not big boned, they're being boned if that is how they're going to look. They're too wide and their heads are too small unless those helmets are skin tight.



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JohnHwangDD wrote:Supa-Sized Husky Marines!

But it's bizzare they couldn't just take a basic GW render mesh (which GW has for their molds) and stretch it to match an Adi Smith pic.

The real problem is the heads are too big.

They need tiny little peanut heads!

If their bones grow to make them bigger then why wouldn't the bone in their skulls grow too to keep their heads in proportion?

I like them. I just hope they can actually make a good movie out of them.

They look really bad. I could probably do better models, given the time (from a design facet, not from a technical one, obviously. My 3D modelling skills are not as perfect as I'd like them to be quite yet). Not saying anything about the textures, other then that most videogames look better.

I rather like the models: Space Marines are supposed to be very broad and heavily boned. That said, if you're going to go with computer animation, why not match the miniatures for the tie-in?

Nurglitch wrote:I rather like the models: Space Marines are supposed to be very broad and heavily boned. That said, if you're going to go with computer animation, why not match the miniatures for the tie-in?

I think that's where we'll end up, really.

So much angst over early test pics!

Maxstreel wrote:At least it's a start. The detail is nice. The overall form, however, needs work.

Exactly. I think they really nailed the details, but since it isn't final I'm not too worried.

Oshova wrote:Surprisingly I can read! =O

But this doesn't stop the fact that getting the proportions right for something that already has tons of art shouldn't be hard. Especially for professionals. I know it's only for colour and insignia, but you've still got to create a base to put those on, so why make a bad base, when it's so easy to make a proportional base.

Oshova

You do realize the proportions in literally 90% of space marine art are physically impossible and would imply that space marines are bizzare double shoulder jointed apemen whose knees are in their calves?



Seriously.

cadbren wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Supa-Sized Husky Marines!

But it's bizzare they couldn't just take a basic GW render mesh (which GW has for their molds) and stretch it to match an Adi Smith pic.

The real problem is the heads are too big.

They need tiny little peanut heads!

If their bones grow to make them bigger then why wouldn't the bone in their skulls grow too to keep their heads in proportion?

They would be in proportion with tiny peanut-sized heads. Space Marines are as tall as Shaq or Yao, so their heads would be Shaq / Yao-sized. Which is tiny compared to their bodies.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

cadbren wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Supa-Sized Husky Marines!

But it's bizzare they couldn't just take a basic GW render mesh (which GW has for their molds) and stretch it to match an Adi Smith pic.

The real problem is the heads are too big.

They need tiny little peanut heads!

If their bones grow to make them bigger then why wouldn't the bone in their skulls grow too to keep their heads in proportion?

They would be in proportion with tiny peanut-sized heads. Space Marines are as tall as Shaq or Yao, so their heads would be Shaq / Yao-sized. Which is tiny compared to their bodies.

Huh? That's not really how geometric expansion works.


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Nurglitch wrote:I rather like the models: Space Marines are supposed to be very broad and heavily boned. That said, if you're going to go with computer animation, why not match the miniatures for the tie-in?

Because the miniatures look utterly ridiculous and toylike when they aren't miniatures.

JohnHwangDD wrote:
They would be in proportion with tiny peanut-sized heads. Space Marines are as tall as Shaq or Yao, so their heads would be Shaq / Yao-sized. Which is tiny compared to their bodies.

Sorry... but shaq doesn't have a peanut head.



and neither does Yao



GG

ShumaGorath wrote:Because the miniatures look utterly ridiculous and toylike when they aren't miniatures.

Wait, what?