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diesel7270 wrote:H

Kanluwen wrote:
Can you nab me some reference photos for my Stryker I'm working on? Trade you some pics of my WIP Guard for it.

What you saw were heavy-armored Humvees and MRAPS. I can't go into specifics for reasons below.

Unfortunately, as for the the photos, the answer can only be no. There is no detail I could give to you with a photograph from one of ours that you couldn't get elsewhere on google, without broadcasting strength intel openly on the internet. Such a thing is a violation of Operations Security. Don't be discouraged, though - plenty of legit photos of Strykers are out there on the internet. And plenty of other people post such information on the internet without thinking about it, and you can easily find it if you want it super realistic. I just don't want to be that guy, you know?

It's okay I was looking more for color patterns, actually. Are they a flat olive drab/sandy ochre? Do they have camo patterns on the Strykers?

That's more what I'm needing!

All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

diesel7270 wrote:All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

So Basically they look like ork vehicles?

WarWizard91 wrote:

diesel7270 wrote:All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

So Basically they look like ork vehicles?

My mind = BLOWN. I will never look at an uparmored HUMVEE the same way...and it probably doenst help that my buddy plans on painting "WAAAAAAAAGH" onto his turret when he goes over.

That is freakin' awesome. Adapt and overcome, brothers.

Tell you what- having been there and suffered, PM me with what you need. I'll put together a care-box for you guys.

Major Dutch
OIF III, IV
1st MECH BDE, 9th Iraqi Division

This thread is Aces.. Very enjoyable to see this develop..

Its funny because I play in a garage with my friends on a MDF board with mostly homemade terrain, smoking and cursing the dice gods.. Just minus the whole bravery part..

Anyway

Necrons are pretty hard to use this edition. So dont even feel bad for losing with them.

Although from my past experience with them.. if they get into CC they die..

I did a searchy for ya.. here are two reasonable (maybe?) threads that might help you out..

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/282235.page#1380366

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/247250.page#822762

Good luck with the Crons, stay out of close combat..

EDIT: Having gone over my limits I'm also on Dial up.. So I just saw that Cardboard hill.. Totally stealing that. Also your army is looking pretty swish..

Great thread. I wish we could have done this when I was over, but I didn't play 40k then and we lived in tents (03-04). Let me know if you guys need any sapre bits and I will send some too you or other wierd things that most poeple wouldn't think to send.

Keep up the good work. Necrons are hard to win with.

Shaman wrote:Just minus the whole bravery part..

Somehow I doubt that, what with all the Dingos, Crocs, and Drop Bears running rampant in your country!

REMATCH! I still lost, but at a much less embarrassing rate. And I got a bunch of pics, so sorry for the heavy download time. Took me two hours to upload these.




Here I am, SGT McDowell, and what I've assembled to take on his SM army. This time, I had a new strategy and was going to make a few less blunders.



We laid out our units in this fashion. He had a squad of terminators in reserve and I put my monolith in reserve (Deep Srike!)
I clustered everyone together. Maybe foolish, because he has an orbital bombardment, but he never used it this match. I planned on covering everyone's advance, being able to shoot as much as possible, and make him close every inch with his jump infantry assault marines. My Destroyers immediately picked off two of his regular space marines.



At the beginning of turn one, you can see him trying to close the distance. I immediately rolled to bring my monolith in from deep strike, and then used my Gauss Flux Arc to engage three squads on the left side of the board. I took out 4 ourt 5 scattered models with it. He then dropped my Heavy Destroyer and a Destroyer with the lascannons on his land raider.



My Heavy Destroyer made his WBB roll, but not my one Destroyer. one of his regular troop squads is down to two models. On turn three, I start to rain more shots with my Gauss Flux arc. I move my Wraiths and Scarabs to intercept his jump infantry advancing from the left. He's making potshots at my guys with his lascannons, but is rolling horribly. He's got notoriously bad dice luck. I believe I immobilized his dreadnought with my Heavy Destroyer at this point.



It's his half of turn three and his terminators come out of deep strike right next to one of my regular necron squads. I start to sweat at this point. He's closed with his jump infantry on the left and the melee ensues. He's chewing through my scarabs, but I'm getting a wound here and there with them.



By the end of the next turn, the assault on the left is over with one of his squads wiped out and another crippled. He knocked out my wraiths and scarabs. His terminators closed, dropped over half the squad with help from his land raider. I rolled for morale and failed, falling back off the board, and there the game goes...



Seeing I can't get anywhere with his terminators, I use my Wargear on my Lord and deep strike them to behind his vehicles. The monolith had just dropped the last remmnant of one squad last turn, so now he's firing his Particle Beam at the Land Raider. Various potshots on it beforehand and my monolith take it's weaponry down to just one lascannon. My newly deep strike-ed squad fires it's Gauss Flayers at the Dreadnought, and take out a few of it;s weapons. He wheels his land raider around to drop a regular squad to intercept my squad.

I roll a 1 on the game continuing. He's won Ahnillation because he dropped all of my soft 1-3 model units early in the game. He had one more unit gone than me. I was doing pretty good with the exception of that morale roll.

Here's some more pics I think you guys might like:



SPC Erickson is known for his skill in modifying models, and with this one, he wanted a Manticore Missile Launcher, but didn't want to wait and had a ton of bits. So he took a vehicle body, missles left over from a Valkyrie, and a styrofoam block with bits from his Baneblade glued on. I was floored that the turret was made of styrofoam!

And check this out...



He used a magnet to have a rotating, detachable turret!



This is one of the XO's first models he painted, and put some work into it for his first model. I know camo pattern isn't really the SM thing, but it looks great!



Here's my tomb spyder, finished except for a varnish coat and maybe decals. If you see a rough part... I had a really hard time with the pewter legs being warped, and when bending them back in place, one snapped. So I had to glue a very weak joint with heavy parts, and in the end the thing was coated in layers of adhesive. I'm not touching it... it's a Necron, it's supposed to look half-wrecked.



Here's a wraith I did. They're really tough to put together, because the tail join and the tail bottom are really hard to glue down. I suspect a few pounds of pressure would break it anyway, but I'm being careful. I still have one new wraith that just arrived, and my flayed ones are assembled. Base coat tomorrow!

I realize that I really can't beat his high armored majority unless I bring out some Pariahs, and finish my pet project: The Nightbringer. So I guess I'm ordering some Pariahs. It was a fun game, and we've pretty much convinced a spectating Lieutenant to join in and buy some Chaos Space Marines. So, as always, a great time! It was great to unwind, because today was busy as hell.

So tomorrow, I'm going to hold of on playing the XO. Maybe another guy's Tau or Orks, but I need to wait until I have some different units to field before I can expect to handily beat the XO. Well, that's all for today, guys. Thanks for the encouragement! And my buddies are stoked that I'm posting this stuff.

diesel7270 wrote:All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

The kit I'm doing is a M1130 Tactical Air Control Party variant. Plenty of brass etch parts, and other fun wacky bits to have. Nice little remote weapons station too, with options for a grenade launcher(I want to say it's the HK automatic grenade launcher, but I don't have my parts list handy right now) or the standard .50 MG.

Thanks for the colors bit though, you've helped far more than you can imagine

Kanluwen Wrote:

I want to say it's the HK automatic grenade launcher...

It's *probably* the MK19 belt-fed 40mm grenade launcher. I've fired one, and it's pretty intense. It's got a fairly slow rate of fire (slower than that part in Call of Duty 4 where you fire one out of the chinook) and it eats through a box of ammo pretty quickly, but walking a 3-5 round burst into a group of soft targets is nasty.

I can only imagine!

Subscribed! Though many don't say it enough, most do appreciate your bravery and sacrifice of picking up arms in service to your nation.

It is so cool to see you guys playing 40K out there. Please do keep the pictures and updates coming... Believe it or not, actually seeing what you do on your downtime is cool. I really like the updates on how the other guys are doing, too.

My brother in law recently completed basic, and is currently in AIT for EOD. If he gets deployed I'll totally send him a starter care package of 40k.

My mind was blown when i read that the turret was made out of styrofoam, and camo armor makes more sense than brightly colored armor. This is a really cool thread keep it up.

I plan on serving, and now that I know my 40k can come with me, that will help when being deployed. You honor your country by serving. Be safe. And that manticore is fething AMAZING!

Cool batrep.. Good to see you doing better.. Bring on the Nightbringer..

@Platuan4th: A dingo stole my lunch just last week!

If you want to kill space marines with Necrons, shoot your troops at all vehicles you can reach and you will kill the Land Raider in turn 2 at the latest. For the rest, stay out of combat and shoot the crap out of anything that moves fast.

*insert military related compliment*

No pics today, guys. Me and the XO pretty much spend all evening listening to Blues and Classic Rock and sharing the fine detail brush when we needed to paint, and assembling when the other had the brush.

I worked extensively on my nightbringer, mostly by filing off the molding lines in the torso and arms, and using Green Stuff to join the poorly-fitted torso with the lower half. I'll have to fine-tune the edges once it dries, because it was being a little rebellious when trying to make sure every crack (and most were large) was sealed. XO is worried about me fielding my nightbringer, which is awesome. I hope it works out well when I can field it.

Also while I left the Green Stuff to dry for the rest of the night, I started painting a Flayed One to see how I want the rest to look. I got a few coats of bronzed flesh over the black basecoat... a few spots of black are still showing through the coats, but it got late, and I had to call it a night. I'll take pictures when they start to really come together.

It's rainy season in this area of Iraq, which turns everything from a dusty dry hellhole to a filthy swampy hellhole. I am almost permanantly dragging five pounds of mud and gravel on the bottom of my boots. But, as always, getting a chance to sit down and chill and work on some models is always pacifying.

Thanks so much for the offers of care packages from the various folks who have PMed and posted about it. It means a lot to the guys here and they're excited. And the Tank Platoon Lieutenant bought some models! He wouldn't tell us what they were, for some reason. Maybe he's got something up his sleeve. But we'll see when they arrive in a few weeks.

SM is one of the harder armies for necrons to go up against, for sure.

Typically I find it more beneficial to not deep strike the monolith as your opponent will find it more threatening right off the bat and probably divert a little more attention to it in the beginning. Just focus on using the monolith for cover as you advance. Also remember, you can teleport Necron units (see, not pariahs/scarabs/tomb spyders/C'Tan) through the portal on the 'lith even if they're in close combat. And the fact it has an 18" range is awesome. I never utilized it much until one of my previous matches, and getting to re-roll WBB and the mobility offered was much more beneficial than a pie plate attack.

Nightbringer will do well against termies but he will probably die in the process. But the explosion of him should take out the rest of the termies.

Definitely sounds like you're getting the hang of things bud and having a great time. That's awesome!

I suggest always taking a res orb (if you don't) and keep your lord close. Honestly I've run into more problems when I spread my forces out as compared to keeping them close in. With the exception of scarabs of course.

Keep up the good work and fight the good necron fight!

diesel7270 wrote: And the Tank Platoon Lieutenant bought some models! He wouldn't tell us what they were, for some reason. Maybe he's got something up his sleeve. But we'll see when they arrive in a few weeks.

Wouldnt it be funny if your tank Platoon Lieutenant started an Armored company?

Rymafyr wrote:First, I want to say 'Thanks' for your service; I'm an old soldier myself and I realize how thankless your commitment can be.

+++++++1000000000000000

qft

nice one guys looks good

cool, you can war in war!

Thanks for your service. Being over here can be a little frustrating. Let me know if you want to talk 40K.

WOW!
that is great, i like the IG.
And your necrons OP too. i dont get to see necrons too often and its great to see that people still do use them.
keep up the good work.

@ happygrunt that made me lol.


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I liked your battle report as well.

Necrons ftw mate. I've fought necrons before and they are annoying.. damm buggers just won't DIE!

If your interested in getting some immortals and flayed ones you should check this tutorial on how to make them out of warriors (kudos to orginial author)

- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/241720.page
- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/242321.page
- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/242326.page

Fight da imperial power ;p

Wow! This is a really, really great thread. You've got painting and modelling, battle reports, tactics and background all in once thread.

I'm really impressed with what you guys are doing in regards to 40K so keep it up! And good luck with Necrons, not easy but you'll get there and atleast you're enjoying it!

You have my compliments for being in the army, as you can tell, many people are impressed by your being there and your efforts in both 40K and military.

Good Luck, Dave.

Well, another day has gone by and the XO challenged me to a match - again - and this time, it was Capture & Control. So I didn't worry about units for victory points and threw everything I had at the table. I didn't put my monolith in Reserve (though he put his terminator squad in reserve). I took Comic Pixie's advice and prioritized his Land Raider as my first target, and alternatively his Dreadnought as my second. I lost - again! But barely. Me and the XO have a running gag - He rolls crappy all the time, but when he needs one or two rolls to pull him out of a game-losing situation, the dice deliver. That's how he won this game. I posted pictures of several of the turns so I can break it down for you guys.

The three objectives were the Summoning Core, the hellhound lower body, and the cluster of radioactive waste barrels.



This is our game, before first movement. My second troop squad a necron lord is obscured by my monolith.

XO Goes first.



Turn 1.

He used his lascannons to drop one destroyer. He brought both squads of his jump infantry on the building. I'm not quite sure why... and I forgot to call him out on landing on difficult terrain. If that applies to jump infantry... and, in his first turn, his Land Raider's lascannons immobilized my Monolith just out of range of it's Particle Whip. CRAP!

I bring my necron troops in closer so that I can at least shoot stuff from behind cover with my 24" shots, but other than my destroyers, everything else is out of range. I roll horrendously on the destroyers' attacks and the heavy destroyer can't penetrate his Land Raider's armor. I'm using my tomb spyder, wraiths, and scarabs to try to drop one of his two troop squads (on the unviewed side of the white ruins) and possibly tie up his jump infantry.

Turn 2. He deep srikes his terminators within 1" of my desroyers, and rolls for them to go back in reserve. My tomb spyder can't keep up the pace, but my wraiths and scarabs take down a few of his troops while his jump infantry joins the fight and takes out my wraiths. And, in my idiocy, forgot that Wraiths have invulnerable saves. Gah! So they left the game. I lost a scarab model too, but I'm not too worried. I'm actually beating his regular troops. And he loads his other troops squad in the land raider, and closes some distance. My desrtroyers and heavy destroyer continue to make potshots that do little or nothing. My strategy at this point is that hopefully I'll take out his vehicles, and with it, the bulk of his fire power. Hopefully I can drop his troops squads in the proscess and prevent him from holding any points. His land raider is now within range of my left necron squad and my particle cannon, so I took shots at it and dropped a weapon system.


Turn 3. I also failed to take a picture of this one... not much happens here. We all roll poorly and he closes some distance with his jump infantry. I consolidate my position on the left side of the board while I continue to try to take down his marine squad with my scarab swarm.



This is turn 4. His land raider and dreadnought continue to shoot at my monolith, and only give it a "Weapon Destroyed". His terminators deep strike again, and go off the board, to which he rolls for "Terrible Accident". My luck. When a loss of a model of scarabs broke his jump infantry from close combat, they came to close the distance with my necron troops and begin to wipe them out with their power weapons. My necron troops close within range of another objective, and fire two volleys at the land rader, with my monolith and heavy desroyer, and immobilize it, and drop it's other lascannon. Again, desroyer potshots do little. The assault on my right squad of troops takes out two of the models in one of his squads, but they're already half gone. And my scarabs continue to exchange blows with his troop squad and are continuing to inflict (and take) wounds.

Turn 4. His marines dismount from his land raider, and make a dash for the objective on his side (a broken-down hellhound or whatever). Meanwhile his jump infantry continue to echange blows with my other squad, and drop them. My heavy destroyer focuses it's firepower on the dreadnought but is rolling poorly. My scarabs finish off the rest of his marine squad with three models left (out of seven). At this point he is starting to get worried because I control a point, and he doesn't, and we go into turn five.

Turn 5. He continues to frantically get his last marine squad to the hellhound body but can't close the distance. His jump infantry begin their progress towards my other squad that they haven't wiped out. I make shots with my last destroyer and heavy destroyer, continue to blast at his land raider with my last troop squad, and take a few models off of all of his infantry and jump infantry squads, but they make their morale checks. However, he didn't have any points under his control and if he had rolled to end the game, I would have won.




Turn 6. He closes the distance with his marine squad, but can't get quite close enough when he assaults with what is left with his jump infantry to contest the point I control. With most of our effective shooting power taken off the board, the pace picks up. The dreadnought takes out my scarabs and the marines take out my destroyer, but I've got my heavy destroyer left and I've got a plan: I can turbo boost it to the hellhound to contest that point, so that I alone have an uncontested point and a win. Providing, of course, he doesn't roll to play into turn seven.



Turn 7. He got lucky. The game extends, his marines kill my heavy desroyer, and he jumps both remaining units of jump infantry to my area. I can only shoot and kill one, which I did, and the other jump infantry squad makes it contested. I lose.

One guy and the Tank Platoon LT were there, and while the LT watched the game, the other guy painted his Tau. We all had to work late, so as soon as the game ended, we had to call it a night.

Anyway, I did a lot more work on my flayed one and if I get a chance, tomorrow I will post a picture so you guys can see if it works well enough to continue it's method with the other models. Hope you guys enjoyed!

Lol you have the same problems with Destroyers as me. Constantly making terrible rolls and then getting mowed down. None of mine have ever made it past the first turn or two.
Personally I plan on simply fielding more of them, increase my chances of rolling something other than crap, and making it harder for my opponents to concentrate all their fire on one squad of them.

Yeah, at this point I'd really advise some more anti-armour, such as Heavy Destroyers, C'tan or Warscythes...

nice bet-rep though, you got v. unlucky!

great stuff

Keep calm, and keep safe. Watch your buddies backs. God bless you and all the soldiers over in iraq.