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Cheap skimmers with access to some of the best anti-tank weapons in the game? Tell us more O sage.

Brother SRM wrote:

Albatross wrote:I think Orks are going to get seriously screwed by this expansion...


/sadface

Have you read the Ork FAQ on Deffrollas? Orks are going to be having the times of their lives here.

Plus,Tankbustaz may become a bit more viable.

FITZZ wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Albatross wrote:I think Orks are going to get seriously screwed by this expansion...


/sadface

Have you read the Ork FAQ on Deffrollas? Orks are going to be having the times of their lives here.

Plus,Tankbustaz may become a bit more viable.

psst... All tank mean no infantry.

Scottywan82 wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:

Albatross wrote:I think Orks are going to get seriously screwed by this expansion...


/sadface

Have you read the Ork FAQ on Deffrollas? Orks are going to be having the times of their lives here.

Plus,Tankbustaz may become a bit more viable.

psst... All tank mean no infantry.

Opps...right you are.

Well we don't really know that for sure. We're guessing here (thanks GW Secrecy Department - God forbid you ever want to actually hype up a release, always better to tell us nothing ever until the day it arrives... morons).

Anyway, Spearhead could allow transported squads in the same way Armoured Company lists have always allowed Chimeras with people inside them.

Brother SRM wrote:

Albatross wrote:I think Orks are going to get seriously screwed by this expansion...


/sadface

Have you read the Ork FAQ on Deffrollas? Orks are going to be having the times of their lives here.

By basing their entire gameplan around RAMMING other vehicles??!


Well, good luck with that.

LunaHound wrote:

bhsman wrote:A miserable pile of secrets.

Why do people keep using that phrase this morning!

Do you reallyrly need a reason?

I'm looking forward to this.

I want to see new vehicles for Dark Eldar and new Troops. Wouldn't it be cool if the Dark Eldar had some kind of Evil Flying Walker Suit like the Eldar Wraithlord??

Do you think it's possible that Orks will get a plastic Squiggoth model and rules? Or maybe Squig riders? That would be dreamy.

Madmax1 wrote:Do you think it's possible that Orks will get a plastic Squiggoth model and rules? Or maybe Squig riders? That would be dreamy.

Possible, but unlikley.

No its squats, squats are really screwed here, but I hear they are coming out in October.

Warboss Narznok wrote:I want to see new vehicles for Dark Eldar and new Troops. Wouldn't it be cool if the Dark Eldar had some kind of Evil Flying Walker Suit like the Eldar Wraithlord??

Face it Dark Eldar won't get anything until their new codex is released. If it isn't released they will get squatted

Gargskull wrote:

Praxiss wrote:I'm lookign forward to the new tank kits. Hopefully they will realease a plastic kit for the Medusa and Collossus.

Nope, not this time. Confirmed new plastic kits are:
Manticore/Deathstrike (no hydra)
Fire Prism/Nigh Spinner
Leman Russ
Eldar heavy weapons

So, only IG and Eldar are represented? They gets none of my money then and I'll add that without doing something for each faction, it's a wasted opportunity because only a fraction of the fanbase will be interested in buying it.

And Tau won't even have a showing here with 1 tank.

Madmax1 wrote:Do you think it's possible that Orks will get a plastic Squiggoth model and rules? Or maybe Squig riders? That would be dreamy.

They'll probably be new units in plastic when the next codex rolls around but that's a long way off.
If you want to know what will go plastic then just interrogate the forgeworld peeps until they tell you what's selling well for Orks.

Balance wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Robin Cruddace revealed that it is a small variant of 40k (with WD rules), where ONLY tanks (and monstrous creatures) are used. So there will be lots of tank squadrons and other tank/monster units not legal in normal games. Sounds like fun!

Seems like it would be a neat idea if they were willing to do it in a smaller scale, and add more superheavies...

(And call it Epic...)

Well, seems to me that the game is moving towards becoming the new epic, as more and more vehicles that used to be reserved for Epic/FW/Apocalypse. We have Manticores and Deathstrike Missiles in regular games, Tyranids are cutting lose with gigantic monsters, and Vendettas and Stormravens tear up the skies. I'm sure the next edition will again make larger armies, to make room for more vehicles (like make them more vulnerable, but also cheaper and fieldable in squadrons) and more troops and more big crazy fliers and similar madness.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

scarskull5 wrote:What is Spearhead?

It's a classic marketing plot.

Company X wants to sell Product Y. Therefore Company X creates a market for Product Y.

In this case, GW wants to sell more tanks. So they create a game where tanks are the focus. End result, more tanks sold.

Nice idea. It worked with Apoc.

Actually, all of the Apocalypse box sets were to get rid of the stock piled inventory. After Apocalypse came out they move a ton of stuff to Direct and they stream lined their inventory system.

boyd wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

scarskull5 wrote:What is Spearhead?

It's a classic marketing plot.

Company X wants to sell Product Y. Therefore Company X creates a market for Product Y.

In this case, GW wants to sell more tanks. So they create a game where tanks are the focus. End result, more tanks sold.

Nice idea. It worked with Apoc.

Actually, all of the Apocalypse box sets were to get rid of the stock piled inventory. After Apocalypse came out they move a ton of stuff to Direct and they stream lined their inventory system.

Wow, I must have missed all these Collector's/Classic range apocalypse sets. The ones I saw only had modern stuff in it like Chaos Spawn and Ork Boyz and Land Raiders, and they're all still available in stores.

What with all their flimsy viehicles getting shot down by hails of heavy weapons and artillery fire...

I am looking forward to combined Imperial and Space Marine armoured squadrons.... yeaaa

mcfly wrote:I'll tell you who is going to be screwed
Dark Eldar

I am going to love it, I mean right now I only have like what...20 soldiers in my 100pt army, so there is nothing to lose for me

Terminus wrote:

Balance wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Robin Cruddace revealed that it is a small variant of 40k (with WD rules), where ONLY tanks (and monstrous creatures) are used. So there will be lots of tank squadrons and other tank/monster units not legal in normal games. Sounds like fun!

Seems like it would be a neat idea if they were willing to do it in a smaller scale, and add more superheavies...

(And call it Epic...)

Well, seems to me that the game is moving towards becoming the new epic, as more and more vehicles that used to be reserved for Epic/FW/Apocalypse. We have Manticores and Deathstrike Missiles in regular games, Tyranids are cutting lose with gigantic monsters, and Vendettas and Stormravens tear up the skies. I'm sure the next edition will again make larger armies, to make room for more vehicles (like make them more vulnerable, but also cheaper and fieldable in squadrons) and more troops and more big crazy fliers and similar madness.

If this gets the standard table size back to 4' x 8', I'll be psyched!

As an IG player, I'm excited about the new Russ kit (somewhat less so about the Manticore/Deathstrike, although I'm sure I'll get one thanks to my completionist streak ). I'm curious to see if they do indeed include all the parts necessary to represent all of the remaining variants, or if there will be one left out.

I have a feeling that most of the rules in the expansion will be non-faction specfic; sort of like an Apoc data sheet, but more generalized. I have a hard time imagining how else GW will be able to squeeze the entire thing into an issue of WD. Of course, they could really just be planning to include only the Eldar and IG, but that strikes me like a bad idea as it would exclude so many players and potentially hurt sales...

although I'm sure I'll get one thanks to my completionist streak

One? Since you're a completionist doesn't that mean you need six of them? You need the maximum amount fieldable in one army of everything. 9 Leman Russes, 3 Manticores, 9 Hydras, 3 Deathstrikes, atleast 12 Chimeras to feel somewhat secure, etc.

Ruckdog wrote:As an IG player, I'm excited about the new Russ kit (somewhat less so about the Manticore/Deathstrike, although I'm sure I'll get one thanks to my completionist streak ). I'm curious to see if they do indeed include all the parts necessary to represent all of the remaining variants, or if there will be one left out..

I popped into a local GW to grab a copy of The Lost yesterday and got talking with the staff there. One of them was kind enough to let me have a quick glance at the new Russ sprues. Although I didn't identify all the parts, he said all four remaing variants were on there. I feel a bit silly for not checking more closely but my attention was on the Vanquisher barrel, which wasn't as long or thin as I expected but is still rather nice.

Sgt Deadmeat wrote:

Ruckdog wrote:As an IG player, I'm excited about the new Russ kit (somewhat less so about the Manticore/Deathstrike, although I'm sure I'll get one thanks to my completionist streak ). I'm curious to see if they do indeed include all the parts necessary to represent all of the remaining variants, or if there will be one left out..

I popped into a local GW to grab a copy of The Lost yesterday and got talking with the staff there. One of them was kind enough to let me have a quick glance at the new Russ sprues. Although I didn't identify all the parts, he said all four remaing variants were on there. I feel a bit silly for not checking more closely but my attention was on the Vanquisher barrel, which wasn't as long or thin as I expected but is still rather nice.

Any pics?

Therion wrote:One? Since you're a completionist doesn't that mean you need six of them? You need the maximum amount fieldable in one army of everything. 9 Leman Russes, 3 Manticores, 9 Hydras, 3 Deathstrikes, atleast 12 Chimeras to feel somewhat secure, etc.

If he does that he'll end up like me. I went the completest route with my Russes, back when you could only have 3 at a time, so I had them in each config - 3 with just Hull HB's, 3 with just hull LC's, 3 with hull HB's and Sponson HB's, 3 (actually 6) with Hull LC's and Sponson HB's. I ignored the Heavy Flamer ones though. And this is on top of 4 Vanquishers, an Annihilator, Executioner, 3 Exterminators and 6 Demolishers.

The completest route isn't always the best... takes up too much room!

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Therion wrote:One? Since you're a completionist doesn't that mean you need six of them? You need the maximum amount fieldable in one army of everything. 9 Leman Russes, 3 Manticores, 9 Hydras, 3 Deathstrikes, atleast 12 Chimeras to feel somewhat secure, etc.

If he does that he'll end up like me. I went the completest route with my Russes, back when you could only have 3 at a time, so I had them in each config - 3 with just Hull HB's, 3 with just hull LC's, 3 with hull HB's and Sponson HB's, 3 (actually 6) with Hull LC's and Sponson HB's. I ignored the Heavy Flamer ones though. And this is on top of 4 Vanquishers, an Annihilator, Executioner, 3 Exterminators and 6 Demolishers.

The completest route isn't always the best... takes up too much room!

Yeah, I too am wondering where I'm going to keep all my crap. Batteries of missiles, squadrons of tanks... But my will is still resolute to wait for plastic artillery and Vendettas.

I have to ask... whats the purpose of the nightspinner in a vehicle only game?

Again:
The assumption that it will be "Tanks versus Tanks" could be flawed.

It's entirely possible that, seeing as how this is "Spearhead" and not "Armored Battles" that we're going to be seeing instances where Armored Spearheads are used.

Things like tank regiments breaking through an infantry defended line, or armored units running amok in the rear of the lines, etc.