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Thanks everyone... the encouragement helps me get through the mind numbing hours of model/mold prep.

Kroothawk: I need to get the three other Leviathan variants completed, then 15mm versions, then I get to work on the Black Widow and Paladin models.

Mark, your "mind-numbing hours" are definitely paying off!!!

Love the photos - simply brilliant how the pieces are turning out.

Padre^.

okay, I'm not the first to say this, but wow...

those look effing rad!

I wish I was making a lot more money than I am now, as this is a prime dumping ground for my excess funds!

*Picks up jaw and replaces it* dayam that is sweet looking.

Wow. I have no words.

I just hope this time around I get the two I order

Nice to see you back at work.

BigJon

Sounds suspiciously like someone has some unresolved items.

grizgrin wrote:Sounds suspiciously like someone has some unresolved items.

Ohh, no unresolved issues, back when Dream-Forge did their first Crusaders
I tried to order two of them before big-brother-GW cracked the IP whip.
Ended up getting a full refund and great customer support.

This time around I hope to get to order a couple is all.

BigJon

Old Man Yarrik wrote:This blows any knight titan model so far out of the water!

grizgrin wrote:Looks like a great Knight class titan for sure!

Once again:

KNIGHTS AREN'T TITANS!

A Knight is it's own warmachine type, hence why a Paladin is a CLASS of Knight, just like a Wahound is a class of Titan. Different beasts with different ways of fighting and different targets.

Plat: Easy there killer. No one is here to harm you.

grizgrin wrote:Plat: Easy there killer. No one is here to harm you.

Gets out 'Jabby Stick'.



That looks amazing, have an internet pat on the back. Would it have any potential uses within Warhammer 40,000 games at all? Either way, it looks great!

That Leviathan is looking bitchin! Great detail.

This will be in resin I take it?

BigJon wrote:

grizgrin wrote:Sounds suspiciously like someone has some unresolved items.

Ohh, no unresolved issues, back when Dream-Forge did their first Crusaders
I tried to order two of them before big-brother-GW cracked the IP whip.
Ended up getting a full refund and great customer support.

This time around I hope to get to order a couple is all.

BigJon

I hear you big man.... We made their attorney review the coming soon page on the old web site, to assure that they had no intention of taking issue with the rest of the line. These models were on that page.

Gargskull wrote:This will be in resin I take it?

Correct, resin kits.

You made it past the gauntlet of IP terminators? Thats almost as impressive as that model is in the first place.

I put a poll up, I do not know when or if it will be published in the Dakka poll forum.

I have the Iron-Core game system about 90%, but I keep having to limit the rules based on skirmish game mechanics. My original intent was to make the game a hybrid. RPG/Skirmish to allow for true freedom of action and resolution of actions.

The game is designed to be played with a limited number of units, to help soften the blow to the gamers pocket book as vehicles are inherently more expensive regardless of the manufacturer. The small unit size allows for more detailed game play without making the games unreasonably long.
With this in mind I would like to start a conversation, your opinions on this are valued, so please chime in.

Would you play a skirmish game that required a referee?

Benefits:
-Freedom of action through maneuver rolls. Difficulty of maneuver determined by referee
-Hidden movement. Referee tracks hidden units location.
-Atmosphere and game play freedom provided by referee. As with a RPG the referee can add details that are missing from most skirmish games… scenario changes on the fly, such as a scouting mission that goes wrong and now your forces face an ambush. Providing game flow and limitations to balance the fight and keep excitement high.
-Arbitrary point values for units can be mitigated and balanced by referee.
-Suicide runs as a valid tactic could be mitigated.
-Basically a meld of RPG and skirmish gaming styles.

Drawbacks:
-You need a third party involved in the game. It may be difficult to find an extra body that is willing to referee two or more players.
-Suicide runs as a valid tactic could be mitigated.
-Arbitrary point values for units can be mitigated and balanced by referee.


All the best,
Mark-

NoseGoblin wrote:Would you play a skirmish game that required a referee?

Probably not as an ongoing thing.


Makes it harder to actually get in a game, as you not only need to line up an opponent, but need to find someone to referee it... preferably someone who is actually good at it... and who you can trust to be impartial.

For home gaming groups of more than 2 people, that would be fine. It makes it an uphill battle for a pick-up game, though.

Needing a GM for a wargame is essentially a non starter for me (and I think most others), part of the gaming appeal of wargames over RPGs or the like is being playable with only two folks.

Jack

Thanks guys....

Thats the kind of opinions I need to hear. strong views one way or the other.

I could see the first games played this way but after more people in your area have the figures and rule book have it set up for individual play with event charts and things like that.

Yeah, tying to get 3 or more together for a game with one as a ref is going to be a PITA. Some have a hard enough time getting 2.


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You may want to include referee option in the game as and advanced option or somehing.

NoseGoblin wrote:Would you play a skirmish game that required a referee?

A referee is more appropriate for really big games IMHO.
Actually I already have a good rule set for standard games, but I love to see the vehicles/flyers that you are planning (as seen in the small pics).

If you have some time on your hands and want to hear me blather on and on, you can check it out on my Pod cast interview with Chance of Gaming (-R rated-)
http://dreamforge-games.blogspot.com/2010/07/chance-of-gaming-podcast.html

Due to a recent birthday and how good these look I would be interested in maybe buying a few, so I was wonderin approximately how much will these cost?

P.S.

Keep up the Awesome work.

TheRavenWolf wrote:Due to a recent birthday and how good these look I would be interested in maybe buying a few, so I was wonderin approximately how much will these cost?

P.S.

Keep up the Awesome work.

Thank you, sorry it took so long to get back to you. At this point I don't have a price, I need to complete the molds and send it out to quote to a few casters before I know the damage.

All the best,
Mark-

How tall are these things?

Commodore Perry wrote:How tall are these things?

About 9.5" tall

how tall is this, it looks amazing

Do you have a Fire Warrior to put next to it? Looks like it could fit as well!

Hey Mark, any progress reports on the Leviathans?

Padre^.