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You could emigrate.

I think it'll happen eventually. The problem is if there isn't a powerful central government, it's meaningless. And no one wants to cede power to a higher government.

Manifest destiny means all of america and all of south america. Take 'em!

Kilkrazy wrote:

Frazzled wrote:If Canada andf Mexico adopted the US Constitution and government style just like every other US territory then broke into new states in the Union I'd be more onside. It'd be about a 20 year process.

I think they would have to.

Both countries are already divided into provinces or states which could easily be incorporated into the US system. It would mean a serious dilution of 'native' US citizen's voting power, of course. Mexico has a pretty big population.

As an alternative scenario, how about handing Texas back to the Mexicans, Louisiana to the French and the 13 colonies to the UK?

Thats why we have all the guns, to make sure that doesn't happen. The Brits tried that in 1814. We're much better shots now.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:If you look back to 1860 you find that at that time there was a strong feeling in the USA that the union was not working out so perfectly.

Somehow those differences were resolved, more states were added, and eventually the union came to the state of perfection it enjoys today.

The same could happen in the EU.

Those differences where resolved only with the bloodiest war the Americas has ever seen.

Are yo saying the EU is about to have a civil war?

We did that in 1914-18 and 1939-45. That's the main reason we have the EU now.

You're forgetting the period from about 500BC to the mid 80s, where all europeans did was kill each other. We've been at it for a good two and a half thousand years now, its about time we calmed down a bit.

Fateweaver wrote:
@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But on the other hand you'll be more intelligent and not so fat that you cant fit through doorways

The only way we'll incorporate Mexico is if we decide to classify this rash of gang violence and piracy that is seeping across our borders as terrorism that the Mexican government is either supporting, or failing to stop. Once that nomenclanture is applied, it is only a matter of time before we invade to defend our interests. Once someone comes out and starts campaigning that we recognize these drug lords as agents of terror, we'll have a hot button issue to act upon.

Personally I'd try to ramp up awareness of the crisis 3 years into the presidency, and ride the victorious war into the campaign. It is controversial, but a successful war on terror would be an awfully big feather to have in your cap as you approach the polls. The trick would be freeing up enough troops to get the job done. Ideally, you would identify the area controlled by drug lords, declare it fair game, and discreetly conquer a chunk of Mexico and place it under martial law until such time as the area can be restored to order. The Mexican armed forces could be used to try to corral the runners when the US sack their bases of operation.

This has the potential to be a Gulf War style incident, especially since you can declare the problem solved whenever you like and pull out. Just leave a garrison force on our side, and let the drug runners know that we will do it again if we need to.

yeah and don't even get started on Casinos. Those people I lived near when I was in Washington state were loaded, and getting handouts.

Fateweaver said just now that some posters here don't think wellfare queens exist, but he thinks they do.

He is absolutely correct.

let me tell you a story, a true story:

When I was in Chicago I worked a gak job in a kitchen and my lazy co-worker who spent most of her time 'at work' talking on her cellphone to one or another of her "baby-daddy"s instead of getting stuff done, lived with her great grandma, had 6 kids, and one of her kids had just had a kid (at 14). Her and her 2 sisters (with all of their spawn) all lived in the same house, and had big TVs, she drove a LEXUS! she got her hair done every week, and she always had a cash roll on her. Her current baby-daddy and her 14 yr old daughters baby-daddy all stayed their too and slung weed on the side. This is all true. I made minimum wage, and she made slightly more because she had been working there longer... but a LEXUS?! I couldn't even buy a car, could barely pay my rent, and worked my ass off. But oh yeah I don't spawn a gazillion kids either, I guess that's the struggle of single white males who use a condom. Well even if you don't use one and knock someone up, that's just another bill for child support, while she gets her flatscreen and her lexus for being a skank.

The icing on the cake is a quote from my co-worker: "In mah house, we don't eat vegetables cuz they dirty! They come out the ground!"

While this is inherently logical, the ground is dirty... veggies grow in the ground... therefore veggies are dirty...

Its the logical skills of a 36 year old kindergartener at work. And shes a grandma. Yay. And she works a Burger King (well doesn't really work much, but she goes to her job there and punches in)... She gets a Lexus, I walk to work.

she was munching on a french fry while saying this.
I told her that was made of potatoes.
She said "nah its french fries"

facepalm.


yes I'm serious.
Geneva was 36 years old, a grandmother.
god have mercy on her children.


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oh yeah... her entire neighborhood was full of people who lived the same way. I visited once, and I was so mad that I didn't have a Lexus and a TV and and... you get the idea... I NEED TO SPAWN MORE STUPID CHILDREN TO GET AHEAD!

ShumaGorath wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:That and due to immigration problems we might as well count Mexico as part of the US anyway.....

Technically that would solve every immigration problem instantly.

Not at all, it would shift the entire problem to the southern border of the 'state of Mexico'. It is a lot narrower though.

Wow, we agree on something.

@Regwon. I can fit through doors just fine now. I'm 6', 245. I'm above average intelligence but then I went to school during a time when schools actually worked to educate and before the pc-liberal police changed txtbooks to how THEY think history took place. Tx is changing them back to how I was taught.

Well, I would think that trying to blow up a dam in Tx to flood an area that endangers 4M people would be an act of terrorism. Oh snap, according to the government terrorism doesn't exist. They aren't terrorists, they are "religious extremists" so I guess Mexicans would be called "pharmacuetical extremists".

The EU is failed experiment, that unfortunately for those of us in it will remain the status quo for some time to come. The states involved simply have to much invested in the EU too disband it. The Euro is a failed currency that has had to be bailed out on several occasions. And the commonality or European identity does not exist in even the slightest form for most Brits.

Trust me you'd be better remaining autonomous.

The Euro has never had to be bailed out once.

Kilkrazy wrote:The Euro has never had to be bailed out once.

Greece has however.

Fateweaver wrote:@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But, ive rattled LOADS of American birds and they said they liked my accent.... i guess theres no accounting for taste eh?

Greece isn't the Euro.

I don't trust Mexican cops near the border. They are held to absolutely no standard of accountability. Ours are bad enough, but the Mex guys are just thugs with a badge and a gun and they WILL just pull you over, search your car, take your money, and drive away and there's just nothing to do about it. What call the cops?
they know this. It happened to my friend he told me about the incident. Not even an attempt to make an excuse for the reason. That in itself is a singular reason why the U.S. should have no interest whatsoever in bonding with our neighbor to the south. Now we have to police your police? gak, the bill gets bigger and bigger now...

Kilkrazy wrote:Greece isn't the Euro.

Tell that to the stock market. Tell that to the currencies market E down to US$1.20 at point of writing, and falling.

Lennysmash wrote:The EU is failed experiment, that unfortunately for those of us in it will remain the status quo for some time to come. The states involved simply have to much invested in the EU too disband it. The Euro is a failed currency that has had to be bailed out on several occasions. And the commonality or European identity does not exist in even the slightest form for most Brits.

Trust me you'd be better remaining autonomous.

Englands economy isn't exactly doing well in the eurozone.. Not sure where this level of smugness is coming from. You're doing worse than most EU states.

mattyrm wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But, ive rattled LOADS of American birds and they said they liked my accent.... i guess theres no accounting for taste eh?

yeah fateweaver you need to get out more. chicks dig foreigners.
also... crappy accent? sorry, I speak English, not American, Ebonics, Texmex, Midwest, New Yoik, New Joisey... but English. Whose language is it anyway? Who has the funny accent?

Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Greece isn't the Euro.

Tell that to the stock market. Tell that to the currencies market E down to US$1.20 at point of writing, and falling.

The stock market thinks America is the Euro also. Since when has reactionary trading ever been intelligent or guided?

@Regwon. I can fit through doors just fine now. I'm 6', 245. I'm above average intelligence but then I went to school during a time when schools actually worked to educate and before the pc-liberal police changed txtbooks to how THEY think history took place. Tx is changing them back to how I was taught.

So you were taught about intelligent design and the conservative takeover in the latter portion of the clinton administration?

Several US states suffered sovereign debt defaults in the 1840s, did that make the US dollar a bad currency, or lead to default of the federal government?

mattyrm wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But, ive rattled LOADS of American birds and they said they liked my accent.... i guess theres no accounting for taste eh?

Were they sober when they said it?

Sobriety plays a huge factor into what looks good at the time. Trust me on this. I've been down THAT road. Waking up, looking over and asking yourself "who the feth let the dogs out?"

Were you so drunk you spoke with slurred speech? Maybe they didn't hear your accent because you were speaking in the language of too many ales?

Just playin' ya Matty.

Kilkrazy wrote:Several US states suffered sovereign debt defaults in the 1840s, did that make the US dollar a bad currency, or lead to default of the federal government?

At the time the US$ was NOT considered a strong currency. Notes were also issued by individual banks so its, er not relevant.
Oh crap we're back at early 2009 levels. Yep 2nd dip.

Fateweaver wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But, ive rattled LOADS of American birds and they said they liked my accent.... i guess theres no accounting for taste eh?

Were they sober when they said it?

Sobriety plays a huge factor into what looks good at the time. Trust me on this. I've been down THAT road. Waking up, looking over and asking yourself "who the feth let the dogs out?"

Were you so drunk you spoke with slurred speech? Maybe they didn't hear your accent because you were speaking in the language of too many ales?

Just playin' ya Matty.

So your proof that women don't like english accents is the fact that you've woken up next to ugly women before?


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Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Several US states suffered sovereign debt defaults in the 1840s, did that make the US dollar a bad currency, or lead to default of the federal government?

At the time the US$ was NOT considered a strong currency. Notes were also issued by individual banks so its, er not relevant.

Currency markets were much less global and significantly slower at the time too.

Guitardian wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But, ive rattled LOADS of American birds and they said they liked my accent.... i guess theres no accounting for taste eh?

yeah fateweaver you need to get out more. chicks dig foreigners.
also... crappy accent? sorry, I speak English, not American, Ebonics, Texmex, Midwest, New Yoik, New Joisey... but English. Whose language is it anyway? Who has the funny accent?

I don't recognize ebonics as a language anyway. To the pc minded it's a language and should be taught. To the mentally stable it's rap speak, lazy speak, talking with mouth full of gak speak.

Most chicks I know dig French accent, NOT British accent. Then again I can't stand the southern accent. Sounds like a bunch of ill educated hicks (sorry Frazz, lol).

ShumaGorath wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:

mattyrm wrote:

Fateweaver wrote:@KK. You mean I'd get ugly teeth and have to speak with a crappy accent. No thanks. Oh, and lose my gun rights. Naw, I like it here in America. TYVM.

But, ive rattled LOADS of American birds and they said they liked my accent.... i guess theres no accounting for taste eh?

Were they sober when they said it?

Sobriety plays a huge factor into what looks good at the time. Trust me on this. I've been down THAT road. Waking up, looking over and asking yourself "who the feth let the dogs out?"

Were you so drunk you spoke with slurred speech? Maybe they didn't hear your accent because you were speaking in the language of too many ales?

Just playin' ya Matty.

And based on actual gold/silver reserves.

So your proof that women don't like english accents is the fact that you've woken up next to ugly women before?


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Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Several US states suffered sovereign debt defaults in the 1840s, did that make the US dollar a bad currency, or lead to default of the federal government?

At the time the US$ was NOT considered a strong currency. Notes were also issued by individual banks so its, er not relevant.

Currency markets were much less global and significantly slower at the time too.

KK you are correct it has never been 'bailed out' yet it has recieved funding from several sources to 'bolster' it.

Ignoring Shumas posts is nice. Only when I want to read them do I have to.

Reading comprehension fail Shuma. Was taking a friendly jab at Matty. Don't need or want your input. Ty. Have a nice day.

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How do these double posts keep happening..?

Ok, now the original post is gone. Someone needs to get lego up in here, this has happened to many times.

They werent ALL ugly FW!, im a dashing fellow me, i will concede however that one of them looked like she went apple bobbing in a deep fat fryer.

The exotic accent all depends on where you're from. I find the Boston accent, with its exaggerated vowels and minimized trailing consonants, absolutely appalling. On the other hand, I could listen to anyone with an Irish accent read a phone book cheerfully, and am quite fond of our own Southern drawl. My wife only shifts back into it when she's very tired, and is invariably mad at me for pointing it out when it appears. Southern cussing makes me smile. Mine only appears on a very small number of words, as my parents were West Virginians but I was raised in primarily Florida with a brief stint in Georgia.