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IG Mass foot slogger 2000 points even
HQ -100
CCS - base - 50 points
CCS - base - 50 points
Troops
Platoon 1 - 480
PCS - base - 30 points
x5 Infantry Squads - 250 points
50 consripts - 200

Platoon 2 - 480
PCS - base - 30 points
x5 Infantry Squads - 250
50 consripts - 200

Platoon 3 - 480
PCS -base - 30 points
x5 Infantry Squads - 250
50 conscripts 200

Platoon 4 - 460
PCS - base - 30 points
x5 Infantry Squads - 250
45 Infantry 180

It's weakness is it's strength, mass Str 3 AP - at BS 3 and 2(conscripts). Plus, your fielding 405 models, takes for ever to set up and they don't have krak grenades so they can do gak against vehicles AND, your best friend if your facing this if your playing Kill points. Roughly 44 kill points.

Ladies and Mentlegen, THE WORST LIST EVER brought to you by the DE 'dex.

Archon, Shadow Field, Xenospasm, Hell Mask, Webway Portal, Jetbike, Punisher, Trophy Rack, Nightmare Doll 235
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
10 Hellions, Sybarite w/Combat Drugs, Agonizer 241

Rounds up to exactly 2k. Actually had to shave points because apparently DE has so much useless crap that you can't fit it all in one army. I think the fact that this list has 7 Webway Portals and 1 unit that can use it already makes it take the 'worst list' award. Only thing remotely dangerous is the bike dude.
Oh yeah, and the fact that the warrior sybarites each cost approximately 109pts each (they are unit sergeants)

The IG could try to get chenkov and buy SiTNW for even more kps...but that gives a pw! hmm

mrwhoop wrote:The IG could try to get chenkov and buy SiTNW for even more kps...but that gives a pw! hmm

The amount of Kill points I give, the person that beats me first turn might as well get the award right then and there in a tourny.

svendrex wrote:There seems to be two schools developing in this thread. The first is to take a few models as possible, the second is to take as many bad models as possible.

On gretchin

Mad doc - 160

6 sets of 30x Gretchin 3x Runtherd all w/ Cybork from the Doc - 285 Each for a total of 1710 pts.

The total so far is only 1870.

What else would you spend the points on? Flash gitz maybe? Looted Wagon without guns?

remember some of those gretchin will have a 5++ and Feel no Pain. If you face an army with S3 stuff, like Dark Eldar, the Feel no Pain would actually help.

Could soak up other points with BIG GUNZ squad, max the gretchin minimum guns to soak points, run it as a zzap gun, sure its kinda strong but only hits 50% the time and can be strength 2-10 with the chance of killing some of the very gretchin firing it, and the odds aren't in your favor of actually getting a decent counting shot off.

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:Ladies and Mentlegen, THE WORST LIST EVER brought to you by the DE 'dex.

Archon, Shadow Field, Xenospasm, Hell Mask, Webway Portal, Jetbike, Punisher, Trophy Rack, Nightmare Doll 235
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
10 Hellions, Sybarite w/Combat Drugs, Agonizer 241

Rounds up to exactly 2k. Actually had to shave points because apparently DE has so much useless crap that you can't fit it all in one army. I think the fact that this list has 7 Webway Portals and 1 unit that can use it already makes it take the 'worst list' award. Only thing remotely dangerous is the bike dude.
Oh yeah, and the fact that the warrior sybarites each cost approximately 109pts each (they are unit sergeants)

Am I missing something, or do you have 4 HQ units there?

UbiSwanky2 wrote:


Bunch of Flash Gits with more Dakka and Blastas....will get hot! 75% of time and blow self up.

Make sure you DON'T give them any ammo runts, just to be sure. Oh, and Captain Badrukk. Assault 3 Gets Hot! Anyone?

Cambak wrote:

mrwhoop wrote:The IG could try to get chenkov and buy SiTNW for even more kps...but that gives a pw! hmm

The amount of Kill points I give, the person that beats me first turn might as well get the award right then and there in a tourny.

If you group up the IG Squads into their own power blobs (and do the same for Conscripts), it's closer to 15 kill points. I don't think you have to specify whether or not they're combinded until you actually deploy them. Even then, with 405 models I don't know many lists that can statistically kill even half of these models. And this list will completely own the grots, even considering their feel no pain rules.

Hell, if I could get the money required for the plastic in setting up these models I totally would. It'd take me an hour every phase but it'd be so worth it.

Double post D:

svendrex wrote:There seems to be two schools developing in this thread. The first is to take a few models as possible, the second is to take as many bad models as possible.

My brother and I recently thought of this, but set the points level at 500, to ensure maximum pain. He struck first, making a Tau list.

I doubt the existence of an army that can shoot itself in the foot as well as Tau at 500 points.

Maybe Dark Eldar can top it, I don't know too much about them.

My brother strove to meet both schools of thought, giving me an "elite" army. Ahem. He showed me that it was legal to give an Ethereal (who has no ranged weapons) Target Lock and a Blacksun Filter. And oh yes, did he include an Ethereal. With dual close-combat weapons. And as much useless wargear as was legal. I had two teams of 6 Fire Warriors. One team had solely carbines and EMP Grenades as well as Photon Grenades. Another team had 5 Carbines and a single Pulse Rifle (the "designated marksman"). He politely gave me a counter-assault unit: 3 Crisis Suits, all with Advanced Stabilisation Systems, Target Lock, and Targetting Array. (I was thankful that I could choose NOT to be S&P every turn). To round it out, he picked out a Tau Commander with a Blacksun Filter hardwired, a Targeting Array, and a twin-linked Flamer. Along with Iridium Armor, ensuring that I couldn't maneuver him very well. And a Stimulant Injector, which grants Feel No Pain.
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I had no idea about the above monstrousity when I created my own terribad list for him to play with. Pondering for a bit, I decided to go with a Spore Mine-themed Tyranid army. He got three units of 5 Spore Mines, a Tyranid Prime with one set of Scything Talons and no ranged weapons, 14 Termagants with Spike Rifles, 3 Ripper Swarms, and a Venomthrope in a Mycetic Spore. The Spod was actually more of a threat than its cargo. I was proud.
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We played the game on a standard 6x4 table, using Spearhead deployment and the Seize Ground mission. My brother was angry that he had a single source of Synapse, and that the objectives were spread out. It was a great game, with lots of horrible rolling and whiffing on both sides. Especially memorable was my ability to either roll natural 1's or natural 6's on my leadership tests...and nothing else. The only time I rolled a natural 12 was when my Tau Commander charged in to save his Crisis Battlesuit team from Termagants, and seemed especially horrified that the Tau under his command could roll so badly in assault. The Commander with T4, a 2+ save, and Feel No Pain got swept and died fairly quickly :/

My brother got a Coke for his efforts. Let the name of T'au RINGETH in the Halls of Shooting-Oneself-In-The-Foot!

Man, back in the day, no one beat the IG at making BAD lists (yes, except chaos with lots of demons and no icons). Unfortunately, they threw away all our wargear, so no more spending 100 points per officer on useless crap like macharian crosses for 1 wound models. I seem to recall a 1500 point list I once made that only included something like 28 T3 models with no weapon higher than S4.

Unfortunately, for the purposes of this exercise, they got rid of all the wargear. The best I can think of now is

HQ: 835pts.

CCS - 290
medipack, carapace, camo,
astropath, MoO, OoF, Nork

CCS - 215
medipack, carapace, camo, vox caster
astropath, MoO, OoF, 2x bodyguards

5 ministorum priests w/o weapons - 225

2 techpriests w/ 5 repair servitors apiece - 110

Troops:

Veterans - 265
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions
chimera with dozer blade, extra armor, camo netting.

Veterans - 265
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions
chimera with dozer blade, extra armor, camo netting.

Veterans - 165
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions

Veterans - 165
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions

Veterans - 165
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions

Veterans - 135
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries,

2000 points.

You're spending all those points for 2 vehicles and 91 T3 models with no weapon stronger than a lasgun (with the exception of a couple of single shot demo charges and 1 ogryn). Not as bad as it could be back in the day due to all the dudes this list brings, but still, it's a pretty crappy list.

Here we go Daemon hunters at their best

2000 Pts - Daemonhunters Army

Unit Name ## WS BS St To Wo In At Ld Save Cost

Grey Knight Grand Master (HQ) 1 5 5 4/6 4 3 5 4 10 2/5(I) 175
Grey Knight, Psyker, Independent Character;
Teleport Homer; Nemesis Force Halberd; Storm
Bolter
#Terminator Armour 2+ armour save. May not make Sweeping Advances. [0]
Deep Strike if allowed.
Psychic Hood Can be used against each psychic attack made [20]
against the Inquisitors army. Each player rolls a
D6 and adds to their leadership. If the
Inquisitors total is higher then the psychic
power is negated.

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor Lord ( 1 4 4 3 3 3 4/5 3 10 3+ 188
Psyker, Iron Will, Independent Character;
Teleport Homer; Hellpistol (x1)
Targeter Before shooting, you can measure the range to a [1]
target. After any Targeters have been used, no
Guess Range weapons may be fired.
Bionics If the model is suffers a wounding hit and fails [10]
his saving throw roll a d6. If a 6 is rolled the
model ignores the wound. Not effective against
weapons which do not allow a saving throw or
instant kills.
Grimoire of True Names Halves WS of Daemons in contact. [10]
Emperor's Tarot Both players roll 1d6 at start of game. If rolls [15]
are different, get +1 to roll for first turn. If
rolls are same, get -1 instead.
Krak Grenades When assaulting vehicles or immobile [2]
Dreadnoughts, model may make 1 attack with an AP
of 6+1D6.
Purity Seals [5]
Frag Grenades Fight simultaneosly with troops in cover. Models [1]
with Power Fists still go last.
Sacred Incense All Chaos models in assault have -1In. [10]
Psychic Hood Can be used against each psychic attack made [20]
against the Inquisitors army. Each player rolls a
D6 and adds to their leadership. If the
Inquisitors total is higher then the psychic
power is negated.
#Destroy Daemon If psychic test passed, may re-roll to-hit and [15]
wound vs daemons.
#Sanctuary Daemons can't move within 3" of Psyker, and can't [15]
draw LOS through this area.
#Word of the Emperor Enemy units charging psyker or unit must pass [10]
Leadership test, or may not assault at all that
turn.
Familiar 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 6+ [18]
+1 Initiative to Inquisitor. +1 psychic power
allowed per Familiar. May only use one per turn
unless also take Consecrated Scrolls.

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (Elite 1 4 4/5 3 3 2 4/5 2 8 4+ 117
Psyker, Independent Character; Teleport Homer
Frag Grenades Fight simultaneosly with troops in cover. Models [1]
with Power Fists still go last.
Targeter Before shooting, you can measure the range to a [1]
target. After any Targeters have been used, no
Guess Range weapons may be fired.
Krak Grenades When assaulting vehicles or immobile [2]
Dreadnoughts, model may make 1 attack with an AP
of 6+1D6.
Purity Seals [5]
#Destroy Daemon If psychic test passed, may re-roll to-hit and [15]
wound vs daemons.
#Sanctuary Daemons can't move within 3" of Psyker, and can't [15]
draw LOS through this area.
Sage 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1/2 8 6+ [30]
+1 BS to Inquisitor. If 2+ Sages, allow
Inquisitor or member of retinue to re-roll to
hit.; Laspistol & CC Weapon
Familiar 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 6+ [18]
+1 Initiative to Inquisitor. +1 psychic power
allowed per Familiar. May only use one per turn
unless also take Consecrated Scrolls.

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (Elite 1 4 4/5 3 3 2 4/5 2 8 4+ 88
Psyker, Independent Character; Teleport Homer;
Hellpistol (x1)
Frag Grenades Fight simultaneosly with troops in cover. Models [1]
with Power Fists still go last.
Targeter Before shooting, you can measure the range to a [1]
target. After any Targeters have been used, no
Guess Range weapons may be fired.
Krak Grenades When assaulting vehicles or immobile [2]
Dreadnoughts, model may make 1 attack with an AP
of 6+1D6.
Purity Seals [5]
Sage 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1/2 8 6+ [30]
+1 BS to Inquisitor. If 2+ Sages, allow
Inquisitor or member of retinue to re-roll to
hit.; Laspistol & CC Weapon
Familiar 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 6+ [18]
+1 Initiative to Inquisitor. +1 psychic power
allowed per Familiar. May only use one per turn
unless also take Consecrated Scrolls.

Ordo Malleus Inquisitor (Elite 1 4 4/5 3 3 2 4/5 2 8 4+ 88
Psyker, Independent Character; Teleport Homer;
Hellpistol (x1)
Frag Grenades Fight simultaneosly with troops in cover. Models [1]
with Power Fists still go last.
Targeter Before shooting, you can measure the range to a [1]
target. After any Targeters have been used, no
Guess Range weapons may be fired.
Krak Grenades When assaulting vehicles or immobile [2]
Dreadnoughts, model may make 1 attack with an AP
of 6+1D6.
Purity Seals [5]
Sage 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1/2 8 6+ [30]
+1 BS to Inquisitor. If 2+ Sages, allow
Inquisitor or member of retinue to re-roll to
hit.; Laspistol & CC Weapon
Familiar 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 1 8 6+ [18]
+1 Initiative to Inquisitor. +1 psychic power
allowed per Familiar. May only use one per turn
unless also take Consecrated Scrolls.

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers ( 9 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ 224
Carapace Armour; Targeters.; Hellgun (x9); Frag
Grenades; Mount in Chimera
Veteran Stormtrooper 1 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+ [30]
Teleport Homer; Hellgun; Frag Grenades
Inquisitorial Chimera 1 BS: 3 Front: 12 Side: 10 Rear: 10 [104]
Carries 12 models (Terminators use two spaces);
Tank; Amphibious; More passengers can fire;
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Pintle
Storm Bolter; Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers ( 9 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ 224
Carapace Armour; Targeters.; Hellgun (x9); Frag
Grenades; Mount in Chimera
Veteran Stormtrooper 1 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+ [30]
Teleport Homer; Hellgun; Frag Grenades
Inquisitorial Chimera 1 BS: 3 Front: 12 Side: 10 Rear: 10 [104]
Carries 12 models (Terminators use two spaces);
Tank; Amphibious; More passengers can fire; Smoke
Launchers; Dozer Blade; Pintle Storm Bolter;
Searchlight; Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers ( 9 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ 224
Carapace Armour; Targeters.; Hellgun (x9); Frag
Grenades; Mount in Chimera
Veteran Stormtrooper 1 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+ [30]
Teleport Homer; Hellgun; Frag Grenades
Inquisitorial Chimera 1 BS: 3 Front: 12 Side: 10 Rear: 10 [104]
Carries 12 models (Terminators use two spaces);
Tank; Amphibious; More passengers can fire;
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Pintle
Storm Bolter; Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers ( 9 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ 224
Carapace Armour; Targeters.; Hellgun (x9); Frag
Grenades; Mount in Chimera
Veteran Stormtrooper 1 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+ [30]
Teleport Homer; Hellgun; Frag Grenades
Inquisitorial Chimera 1 BS: 3 Front: 12 Side: 10 Rear: 10 [104]
Carries 12 models (Terminators use two spaces);
Tank; Amphibious; More passengers can fire;
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Pintle
Storm Bolter; Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers ( 9 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ 224
Carapace Armour; Targeters.; Hellgun (x9); Frag
Grenades; Mount in Chimera
Veteran Stormtrooper 1 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+ [30]
Teleport Homer; Hellgun; Frag Grenades
Inquisitorial Chimera 1 BS: 3 Front: 12 Side: 10 Rear: 10 [104]
Carries 12 models (Terminators use two spaces);
Tank; Amphibious; More passengers can fire;
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Pintle
Storm Bolter; Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Inquisitorial Storm Troopers ( 9 3 4 3 3 1 3 1 8 4+ 224
Carapace Armour; Targeters.; Hellgun (x9); Frag
Grenades; Mount in Chimera
Veteran Stormtrooper 1 3 4 3 3 1 3 2 8 4+ [30]
Teleport Homer; Hellgun; Frag Grenades
Inquisitorial Chimera 1 BS: 3 Front: 12 Side: 10 Rear: 10 [104]
Carries 12 models (Terminators use two spaces);
Tank; Amphibious; More passengers can fire;
Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dozer Blade; Pintle
Storm Bolter; Heavy Bolter; Hull Heavy Bolter

Option Footnotes:
Close Combat Weapon +1A if used with another CCW / pistol.
Dozer Blade Re-roll failed terrain test if move < 6".
Heavy Bolter 36"R, S5, AP4, Heavy 3.
Hellgun 24"R, S3, AP5, Rapid Fire.
Hellpistol 12"R, S3, AP5, Pistol.
Laspistol 12"R, S3, AP-, Pistol.
Nemesis Force Halberd +2Str. Power Weapon if with Justicar, Grey Knight
Terminator or Grey Knight Hero, Force Weapon if
with Grand Master.
Pintle Storm Bolter 24"R, Str 4, Ap 5, Assault 2.
Searchlight Allows one enemy unit to be fired at by any
friendly unit in range and with line of sight.
Smoke Launchers Use instead of shooting- for one turn, pentrating
hits become glancing hits instead.
Storm Bolter 24"R, S4, AP5, Assault 2.
Teleport Homer Teleporting troops don't scatter if they are
placed within 6" of a model with a Teleport
Homer.


Total Army Cost: 2000

Notes:
Grey Knights have the Fearless, Deep Strike, True Grit, The Aegis, The Shrouding,
Rites of Exorcism and Daemonic Infestation special rules.


Models in Army: 92

Two CSM units, small as possible. One Chaos Lord.

As many Spawn as possible.

Canis Wolfborn - 185pts
10x Scouts, 2x plasma pistol - 180pts
10x Scouts, 2x plasma pistol - 180pts
10x Scouts, 2x plasma pistol - 180pts
15x Fen Wolves - 120pts
15x Fen Wolves - 120pts
15x Fen Wolves - 120pts
15x Fen Wolves - 120pts
15x Fen Wolves - 120pts
15x Fen Wolves - 120pts
8x Swiftclaws - 200pts.
Whirlwind - Extra Armour, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade - 115pts
Whirlwind - Extra Armour, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade - 115pts
Whirlwind - Extra Armour, Storm Bolter, Dozer Blade - 115pts

NO SCORING TROOPS. Only anti-armour is rending HQ and plasma pistols. Not the worst, definitely not the best.

Ok some interesting lists but my all time fav comes from old school a 2,000 pts army created from the Rouge Trader book yes 1 edition a 20th century guard force with 215 troopers. Each 10 man squad had 2 hvy weapons: hvy stubber, missile launcher, grenade launcher, vet sgt. 1-3 20th century predator tanks (Bradleys) and a few rhino's (M-115 APC). I acctually played a force of this nature against Space Wolfs and fought 6 hard bloody turns and one with the sole survivor a missle launcher soldier who took out the Marine Chapters Patriarch with a lucky krack shot winning the game. I could not hit nothing that game with anything...wait I hit terrain and made it dissapear basic human troops are hell to play but I liked it and my buddy Andy took the loss with a laugh and nick named me the building destroyer. I also once played a Blood Axe Freebooter army and never once won a game but had more fun laughing using those Malfuntion cards I think they had back in 3rd edition rules way funny. I believe no army is bad only bad choices on forces, after all one can win a battle using nothing but grots and snotlings if armed right and have a good leadership stat. But if you really need my opinion on the worst army in WH40K universe well I would choose Necrons, I fought them not long ago and found that there Tomb Spiders are cheesy but thats just my opinion and I hope I do not offend any Necron players, but those things just never went away in my encounter. But then again Eldar Swooping Hawks upset me long ago with there first appearance in 3rd edition rules I hated them, me playing choas I felt there special rules about drove me nuts. Nids I love playing them I had a Nid Cultist army back in the day and they rocked I hope to see a come back of Cultists soon. Tao I have seen on the table but never played against them but they remind me much of and old Eldar Aspect Warrior army all shooty and tuff looking but not worth spit in close up actions. I resently faced a hvy tank Imperial Guard army and was impressed with the fact they could stay and take a pounding and give it back in spades. I am sad the Stuntie army was removed (Nids wipping them out) because they had great vehicles that caught my eye long ago.

Baharroth-200

Jetaurch w/laser lance

5x Wraithguard
5x Wraithguard
7x Wraithguard


10x Wraithguard
10x Wraithguard
10x Wraithguard

0 Warlocks, Spiritseers or Farseers

Have fun

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cambak wrote:

mrwhoop wrote:The IG could try to get chenkov and buy SiTNW for even more kps...but that gives a pw! hmm

The amount of Kill points I give, the person that beats me first turn might as well get the award right then and there in a tourny.

If you group up the IG Squads into their own power blobs (and do the same for Conscripts), it's closer to 15 kill points. I don't think you have to specify whether or not they're combinded until you actually deploy them. Even then, with 405 models I don't know many lists that can statistically kill even half of these models. And this list will completely own the grots, even considering their feel no pain rules.

Hell, if I could get the money required for the plastic in setting up these models I totally would. It'd take me an hour every phase but it'd be so worth it.

Thing is.... Every gun in my army is Str 3 AP - with BS 3 normal 2 for conscripts.

SaintHazard wrote:

Mr. Self Destruct wrote:Ladies and Mentlegen, THE WORST LIST EVER brought to you by the DE 'dex.

Archon, Shadow Field, Xenospasm, Hell Mask, Webway Portal, Jetbike, Punisher, Trophy Rack, Nightmare Doll 235
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
10 Hellions, Sybarite w/Combat Drugs, Agonizer 241

Rounds up to exactly 2k. Actually had to shave points because apparently DE has so much useless crap that you can't fit it all in one army. I think the fact that this list has 7 Webway Portals and 1 unit that can use it already makes it take the 'worst list' award. Only thing remotely dangerous is the bike dude.
Oh yeah, and the fact that the warrior sybarites each cost approximately 109pts each (they are unit sergeants)

Am I missing something, or do you have 4 HQ units there?

Haemonculi are 3 per HQ choice representing their cheapness and general squishiness.

focusedfire wrote:Baharroth-200

Jetaurch w/laser lance

5x Wraithguard
5x Wraithguard
7x Wraithguard


10x Wraithguard
10x Wraithguard
10x Wraithguard

0 Warlocks, Spiritseers or Farseers

Have fun

Good thing that list is illegal then eh?

I am pretty sure you need spirit seers to take them as troops.

Cambak wrote:

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cambak wrote:

mrwhoop wrote:The IG could try to get chenkov and buy SiTNW for even more kps...but that gives a pw! hmm

The amount of Kill points I give, the person that beats me first turn might as well get the award right then and there in a tourny.

If you group up the IG Squads into their own power blobs (and do the same for Conscripts), it's closer to 15 kill points. I don't think you have to specify whether or not they're combinded until you actually deploy them. Even then, with 405 models I don't know many lists that can statistically kill even half of these models. And this list will completely own the grots, even considering their feel no pain rules.

Hell, if I could get the money required for the plastic in setting up these models I totally would. It'd take me an hour every phase but it'd be so worth it.

Thing is.... Every gun in my army is Str 3 AP - with BS 3 normal 2 for conscripts.

Anything that can spam a tank will defeat this. TANK SHOCK!!

S_P

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:

focusedfire wrote:Baharroth-200

Jetaurch w/laser lance

5x Wraithguard
5x Wraithguard
7x Wraithguard


10x Wraithguard
10x Wraithguard
10x Wraithguard

0 Warlocks, Spiritseers or Farseers

Have fun

Good thing that list is illegal then eh?

I am pretty sure you need spirit seers to take them as troops.

Nah, if they have a 10-man squad, they count as troops. I think.

Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:
Good thing that list is illegal then eh?

I am pretty sure you need spirit seers to take them as troops.

Doh!!, Your right. Still If I go back and put in the Spiritseers for only 2 troops and put in wraithlords...maybe. I'll try again in a bit, got things to do IRL.

I like the Eldar ideas posted. You can use Storm Guardians with out special weapons as your troops, they are kinda useless. Then Baharroth as your HQ who is also kinda of useless, especially on his own. The rest of the points are filled with units with wraith sight with no was to counteract it. However the Wraithlords are immune to weapons with S4 or less. The wraith guard are immune to S2 so gretchin can not hurt them in combat. About one unit should fail wraithsight a turn on average. Bad? Yes, but most of the units are durable against the kind of armies posted here.

HQ: Baharroth 200

Elite: 3 groups of 10x Wraith guard, 350 pts each.

Troops: 3 groups of 10x Storm Guardians 80 pts each

Heavy: 3 Wraithlords with 2x Bright Lance. 170 Each

Total 2000 Even

Baharrots VYPER DEATHSTORM!


HQ - 285

Baharroth
200

Farseer, runes of witnessing, spirit stones
85pts

Troops - 160

10 Storm Guardians
80pts

10 Storm Guardians
80pts

Fast - 1485

3x Vyper, 3x bright lance, 3x vectored engines, 3x star engines, 3x holo-fields, 3x spirit stones, 3x shuriken cannon
495pts

3x Vyper, 3x bright lance, 3x vectored engines, 3x star engines, 3x holo-fields, 3x spirit stones, 3x shuriken cannon
495pts

3x Vyper, 3x bright lance, 3x vectored engines, 3x star engines, 3x holo-fields, 3x spirit stones, 3x shuriken cannon
495pts


Heavy - 70

War walker, spirit stones, shuriken cannon, bright lance
70pts

Does anyone know how many gun drones you can fit in a tau army?

Emperors Faithful wrote:

Cambak wrote:

mrwhoop wrote:The IG could try to get chenkov and buy SiTNW for even more kps...but that gives a pw! hmm

The amount of Kill points I give, the person that beats me first turn might as well get the award right then and there in a tourny.

If you group up the IG Squads into their own power blobs (and do the same for Conscripts), it's closer to 15 kill points. I don't think you have to specify whether or not they're combinded until you actually deploy them. Even then, with 405 models I don't know many lists that can statistically kill even half of these models. And this list will completely own the grots, even considering their feel no pain rules.

Hell, if I could get the money required for the plastic in setting up these models I totally would. It'd take me an hour every phase but it'd be so worth it.

Ya, actually I think he actually did the opposite and made an unbeatable list!

Dont have my DE codex here, but surely a DE Wych Cult with no transports and rolling as many dice as possible for combat drugs?

Ailaros wrote:Man, back in the day, no one beat the IG at making BAD lists (yes, except chaos with lots of demons and no icons). Unfortunately, they threw away all our wargear, so no more spending 100 points per officer on useless crap like macharian crosses for 1 wound models. I seem to recall a 1500 point list I once made that only included something like 28 T3 models with no weapon higher than S4.

Unfortunately, for the purposes of this exercise, they got rid of all the wargear. The best I can think of now is

HQ: 835pts.

CCS - 290
medipack, carapace, camo,
astropath, MoO, OoF, Nork

CCS - 215
medipack, carapace, camo, vox caster
astropath, MoO, OoF, 2x bodyguards

5 ministorum priests w/o weapons - 225

2 techpriests w/ 5 repair servitors apiece - 110

Troops:

Veterans - 265
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions
chimera with dozer blade, extra armor, camo netting.

Veterans - 265
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions
chimera with dozer blade, extra armor, camo netting.

Veterans - 165
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions

Veterans - 165
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions

Veterans - 165
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries, demolitions

Veterans - 135
vox, grenadiers, forward sentries,

2000 points.

You're spending all those points for 2 vehicles and 91 T3 models with no weapon stronger than a lasgun (with the exception of a couple of single shot demo charges and 1 ogryn). Not as bad as it could be back in the day due to all the dudes this list brings, but still, it's a pretty crappy list.

Camo gives you +1 to cover saves, so that is a +, Grenadiers gives you Carapace, witch is a 4+ armor save, which is a +, Forward sentries gives you camo cloaks and snare mines (count as having counter charge) so that is a +, and demolitions give you a demo charge per squad and melta bombs, your anti tank. Astropath gives you +1 to reserves(stacks), Officer of the fleet makes the take a -1(stacks) to reserves and have to reroll their outflanking. Master of Ordnance gives you a Basilisk shot every turn on Unlimited range, but always scatters, unless you roll a 3 or 2. Medi pack gives the squad Feel no Pain. Nork acts like a body guard, kills commissars that exicute the commander and and goes into a blind range and deals d6 wounds in close combat after losing his last wound, in close combat. Body guards are your extra wounds for your commander. Vox casters let you re roll leadership tests for Orders that your officers give.

A solid Infantry List.

A solid Infantry List.

No, no it's not.

Still, I think my Vyper list would fall against that list, brightlances against 3+ cover guardsmen = fail. The IG player can simply camp his men on the objectives, and I stand no chance.


The 450 guys list has the same problem, only tenfold. Sure, it can't kill tanks with AV over 10, but it has enough men to simply camp enough objectives, so I think it will win against most of these lists.


The wraithguard/lord lists are also waaaaay to good to be put in this thread. 30 wraithguard are very hard to get rid off, especially for such poor armies. The army also has 6 troops and few KP's. It's a total fail in creating the worst list ever.

Archon, Shadow Field, Xenospasm, Hell Mask, Webway Portal, Jetbike, Punisher, Trophy Rack, Nightmare Doll 235
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
Haemonculus, Webway Portal, Scissorhand, Destructor 95
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
10 Mandrakes 150
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
20 Warriors, Sybarite w/ Webway Portal, Combat Drugs, Agonizer 261
10 Hellions, Sybarite w/Combat Drugs, Agonizer 241

That is pretty bad, but I think you would kill my Vyper-list. I simply can't kill 60 warriors, while my own 20 scoring guys would be eaten by mandrakes/hellions.

Posted by: Illumini
The 450 guys list has the same problem, only tenfold. Sure, it can't kill tanks with AV over 10, but it has enough men to simply camp enough objectives, so I think it will win against most of these lists.

I actually pulled this on some one. They gave me a blank stare, and didn't even bother deploying. He went to the Tourny judge and asked " I have to play Objectives against THAT *points at my army*."

The judge said it was legal, so he basically said "screw it, no matter how many shots I'll put into it, I wont take out enough men to take the objectives he captures." and forfeited the match. Next game, annihilation. I went up against a Deathwing company, you would not believe the number of Termies you can take down with so many lasguns. Next game, all mech guard, Dawn of war, annihilation, again. I smiled, once I saw how wide his eyes got, and I said "Go right on ahead." Needless to say, he won the tourny.