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Guitardian wrote:As an Eldar player, I would love to see an Iyanden codex, Alaitoc codex, Saim-Hann codex, etc... but instead I just get an Eldar Codex and have to style my army to whichever craftworld just with the general army list, like if I want Saim Hann, I will get a lot of jetbikes to show it, etc.

I would love for them to have that, aslong with the Orks, Nids and any other faction out there. Back in fist edition White Dwarf would put out 1d6 such each year, it was great.

I love the Ultramarines. They somehow pulled it off to make an Army Interestingly Uninteresting. The Fluff for them isn't absolutly insane.

What I don't like is how every other SM army has be to so DRASTICILY Different when they use the a majority of the same stuff.

Blood Angels used to be a Chapter with a Geneseed flaw. That was very simple and very interesting. Now they are the CRAZY NIPPLE SPACE VAMPIRES!

Space Wolves were Space Vikings with some very light wolf traits. Now they are Space Werewolves with some very light Viking traits.

Black Templars/Dark Angels don't count yet. They haven't been blessed* with new fluff yet.

Out of all the Chapters, I think I hate the Blood Angels the most just because they are SO riduculous now.



*See Blood Angels.

Space Wolves, probably because they are the most Mary Sue of all chapters (maybe barring GK) and get away with anything, it's ok for them to be all "down with the system" but that shouldn't interfere with other faction's fluff. Like the Ecclesiarchy letting them go off the hook, the =][= should be all over these idiots.

Also Vikings are are about as lame as Chuck Norris jokes. Unless of course you think an entire culture based on rape and pillaging was A-OK.

asimo77 wrote:
Also Vikings are are about as lame as Chuck Norris jokes. Unless of course you think an entire culture based on rape and pillaging was A-OK.

But isnt almost any culture based on rape and pillage?

The Viking's did a lot more then rape and pillage you guys know.

Shadowbrand wrote:The Viking's did a lot more then rape and pillage you guys know.

They named Iceland Iceland and Greenland Greenland!

These are men to be reckoned with!

kenshin620 wrote:

asimo77 wrote:
Also Vikings are are about as lame as Chuck Norris jokes. Unless of course you think an entire culture based on rape and pillaging was A-OK.

But isnt almost any culture based on rape and pillage?

The fact that both of those are crimes in most countries would lead me to believe they aren't.

Also Greenland is icy and Iceland is green, I guess the vikings failed there too!

asimo77 wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:

asimo77 wrote:
Also Vikings are are about as lame as Chuck Norris jokes. Unless of course you think an entire culture based on rape and pillaging was A-OK.

But isnt almost any culture based on rape and pillage?

The fact that both of those are crimes in most countries would lead me to belive they aren't.

Also Greenland is icy and Iceland is green, I guess the vikings failed there too!

I meant history wise

Like saying arent a lot of cultures based on patriarchal societies? (well some still are)

I guess it depends how far back into human history you go. Evolutionary-wise it's a good idea to rape the women of rival tribes, factions, societies, etc. especially in times of war. Spread yo genes and yo lovin'!

That said I would bet that those were still crimes in most places (the civilized ones at least) around when the vikings were partying hard.

Perhaps I should have said they thrived on these actions rather than were based upon them.

asimo77 wrote:

That said I would bet that those were still crimes in most places (the civilized ones at least) around when the vikings were partying hard.

I would advise to refrain from that bet.

Armies had the right to do a lot of nasty things , centuries after the vikings were only history.....

All Space Marines are full of win and awesome.

Time to face facts.

Monster Rain wrote:All Space Marines are full of win and awesome.

Time to face facts.

Except those who dont accept Robot Girlyman as their spiritual liege!

This should be a multiple choice. Damn you sainthazard! Making me choose!

Space wolves. So damn lame, I hated them before they existed!

Vikings were stupidly short sighted in their short lived terrorist history. Werewolves are part of gay chick flicks for 13 year old chicks and their emo boyfriends nowadays, The Roman Empire failed due to arrogance and self-absorbed hedonistic ways. Medieval Europe was full of hippocritical bastard religious superstition and marred with the ignorance and persecution, filth and disease, and, oh yeah and crusades and religious party line drawing that goes with such a thing...
("dude... hint hint... it's the RATS you idiot!"...
"no it's the wrath of god... baaaawwwl....",
"no, seriously dude, this is god and I'm trying to tell you it's the rats dammit..."
" so we're not doomed? You sent us the plague god... why god why?"
"no, sorry. I didn't. You're just stupid."

God---

More people need to hate the Templars!

Wow
not only are we trashing fictional plastic men, but completely wiping the planet clean of 2,000years of history.
Guess it is but a twinkling of an eye compared to a fictional 40,000 years!

Guitardian wrote:Vikings were stupidly short sighted in their short lived terrorist history. Werewolves are part of gay chick flicks for 13 year old chicks and their emo boyfriends nowadays, The Roman Empire failed due to arrogance and self-absorbed hedonistic ways. Medieval Europe was full of hippocritical bastard religious superstition and marred with the ignorance and persecution, filth and disease, and, oh yeah and crusades and religious party line drawing that goes with such a thing...
("dude... hint hint... it's the RATS you idiot!"...
"no it's the wrath of god... baaaawwwl....",
"no, seriously dude, this is god and I'm trying to tell you it's the rats dammit..."
" so we're not doomed? You sent us the plague god... why god why?"
"no, sorry. I didn't. You're just stupid."

Just... back away... slowly.

Guitardian wrote:Vikings were stupidly short sighted in their short lived terrorist history. Werewolves are part of gay chick flicks for 13 year old chicks and their emo boyfriends nowadays, The Roman Empire failed due to arrogance and self-absorbed hedonistic ways. Medieval Europe was full of hippocritical bastard religious superstition and marred with the ignorance and persecution, filth and disease, and, oh yeah and crusades and religious party line drawing that goes with such a thing...
("dude... hint hint... it's the RATS you idiot!"...
"no it's the wrath of god... baaaawwwl....",
"no, seriously dude, this is god and I'm trying to tell you it's the rats dammit..."
" so we're not doomed? You sent us the plague god... why god why?"
"no, sorry. I didn't. You're just stupid."

I don't know what this post is attempting to achieve, but it's awful.

I find it really funny to criticize medieval religious beliefs when it's one of the ideals that 40k is based on, as if it's somehow out of place. While we're at it, knights weren't nice guys either like they are in the storybooks. They'd just as soon pillage and loot as the vikings would.

What I'm trying to say is you guys shouldn't be getting your knickers in a twist about Space Vikings in a silly game full of Space Knights, Space Slavers, Space Fascists and Space Medieval Christianity. Cool your collective jets.

My rage will destroy this thread. My ancestors went to North America before Columbus ever did. And I bet on the next moon landing the Americans will find a over turned longboat filled with skeletons.

We were a noble people. And I mean cmon who doesn't want to bone a 15 year old Swedish girl?

And just for the record. Dark Angels are lame Leman Russ pwnzors.

Shadowbrand wrote:My rage will destroy this thread. My ancestors went to North America before Columbus ever did. And I bet on the next moon landing the Americans will find a over turned longboat filled with skeletons.

We were a noble people. And I mean cmon who doesn't want to bone a 15 year old Swedish girl?

And just for the record. Dark Angels are lame Leman Russ pwnzors.

Your North American vikings were idiots

THEY DIDNT EAT FISH

They did eat fish. It's pretty popular in Scandinavian cuisine. The settlement didn't last long. But this was back when the east was the place to go.

Greenland is technically part of North America and was a successful colony.

Shadowbrand wrote:They did eat fish. It's pretty popular in Scandinavian cuisine. The settlement didn't last long. But this was back when the east was the place to go.

Greenland is technically part of North America and was a successful colony.

Hmm my college professor told me the main reason the NA Viking settlement failed was that the specific group of vikings didnt eat fish

He said if any other viking was there, there would have been vikings/native american wars! (and thendisease breaks out)

This is interesting I'll have to look up some stuff.

No offense, but very little as a whole is known of the Vikings or other Pagan groups like the Celts or Picts.

A lot of the information we have now is false, in the 1800's writers made romanticized books and what not. Possibly where the idea of horned viking helmets came from.

And spoken word. Passed down from generation to generation. And wasn't Erik the Red the guy who settled there? He was a exiled for having a bad temper I imagine his follower's weren't all that well geared for the Americas. :S

Salamanders.
Jet black skin and coal eyes.
What the feth?


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And the Space Furries. Can't forget about them and their Thunderwolves, with wolf-saddle upgrade, with a wolf rider armed with wolf-teeth of the Wolf God. Of the Wolf.

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Salamanders.
Jet black skin and coal eyes.
What the feth?

I like their jet black skin. So it isnt "Obligatory Black Dudes in Space" (or at least thinly disguised)

I don't particularly hate any space marine chapter, and I don't know why people get so worked up about it. Sure SW and BA are a little lame, but so what? Are we that weak to get worked up into a fit of nerd rage about it>

I love what Space Marines stand for, no matter who they are and even accept the elements of fluff that don't quite make sense all the time. I think even in a grimdark world we need some heroes. (Even though I believe the real heroes are the IG)

FYI, not a marine player

Ultramarines are really dumb.

Shadowbrand wrote:
Greenland is technically part of North America and was a successful colony.

Greenland is owned by Denmark making it the largest European country.

EmilCrane wrote:Are we that weak to get worked up into a fit of nerd rage about it

Yes we are.

Whoa hey sorry guys. I was just attempting a bit of humorous dialogue with the cultural remarks. I don't 'hate' any of them, just pointing out that they are all based on some Earth culture from somewhere in history that was obviously flawed and that we as a human civilization are more advanced culturally than any of them. Sorry to single out the Templars as a humorous example, I didn't mean to offend any medieval christians who might be reading this.