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I was a tad confused by the article.
They said it was full of goldilockness and just right and so like the Earth (if I interpreted correctly).
Then go on to say that it is 3 times bigger is closer to its star with a 37 day orbit.
Oh and it doesn't rotate
so apart from that it is just like the Earth

We finally send a probe which lands on a chair breaking it and it's robotic arm samples the porridge!
Enter 3 ursine aliens


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ps Conditions mean there is 100% chance of life?

He has either been misquoted or needs to reconsider the statement!
As said, just because the conditions are perfect for life is no guarantee that there will be.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:That can be arranged

correction
That will be arranged

No way dude, think of it...we could do the Puritan Exodus but in reverse. We let all the extremist Religious nutters have this clapped out old one, the one they find so Holy, then the more rational religious types, the agnostics and the atheists can naff off to another a planet. Would be the perfect answer.

VermGho5t wrote:Fascinating. Hurry up you engineers, make some more efficient, faster propulsion.

The moment you're willing to pay for it we will.

Tyyr wrote:

VermGho5t wrote:Fascinating. Hurry up you engineers, make some more efficient, faster propulsion.

The moment you're willing to pay for it we will.

Agreed. Space travel should be high up on the lists of priorities for humanity.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Doubt if they would make this up Ash, but whether or not it may have the right conditions for life is an open question.

It's possible and is of course in the awesome category.
If I had a brain I would love to be an astronomer.
The universe is just mind bogglingly amazing!

Thats exactly how I feel. Math is just not my friend so I couldnt do it for a profession. I have to say though, that is pretty awesome they found one so close to us. Gets me excited to say the least. Thanks for sharing that


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SilverMK2 wrote:

Tyyr wrote:

VermGho5t wrote:Fascinating. Hurry up you engineers, make some more efficient, faster propulsion.

The moment you're willing to pay for it we will.

Agreed. Space travel should be high up on the lists of priorities for humanity.

I also agree. Honestly thats the closest way I think humans can come to actually bonding is by focusing on going into space. But we are all so worried about new wepaons and bombs and high tech spy gear that actual important things go further and further down the list

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
ps Conditions mean there is 100% chance of life?

He has either been misquoted or needs to reconsider the statement!
As said, just because the conditions are perfect for life is no guarantee that there will be.

Considering science still doesn't understand how life began on this planet it would be a naive statement.

Until we can understand the conditions required for life to begin, not exist, it's impossible to make statements like that. It could be so unique that life in the universe could be a extremely rare thing and looking for life in our own gallaxy (a tiny part of the universe) may turn out to be rather foolish.

In fact if this guy actually believe that wherever there is water there is a '100 percent chance of life' then we nedent look further than our own solar system where there are a few planets besides earth where liquid water exists. I would guess he's been paraphrased incorrectly there.

whatwhat wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
ps Conditions mean there is 100% chance of life?

He has either been misquoted or needs to reconsider the statement!
As said, just because the conditions are perfect for life is no guarantee that there will be.

Considering science still doesn't understand how life began on this planet it would be a naive statement.

Until we can understand the conditions required for life to begin, not exist, it's impossible to make statements like that. It could be so unique that life in the universe could be a extremely rare thing and looking for life in our own gallaxy (a tiny part of the universe) may turn out to be rather foolish.

Wow another rare moment of agreeing with you whatwhat. I personally really hope that there is life out there besides us. BUT I think most scientists are just TOO hopeful that we arnt alone. They seem to allow themselves to cloud the fact that we could actually just be it, and thats it. Im hoping its a misquote, I thought that was a rather bold statement to make seeing as what they show people on science channel shows are actually a super hoped up pretty version of what they actually see. What that planet really looks like to us, is basically a bright flashlight, on black paper, with a little tiny shadow that dims it a smidge, thats it. And in saying what he was quoted saying, knowing what the planet looks like to us, is a bit silly.

Well considering the Universe is infinite the chances of life would only need to be above zero for there to be another planet with life on it. We know the chances are above zero since there is life on this planet. It's just how far above zero, that is the question.

Chances are there is life out there somewhere. We have no idea how common it is though. For all we know though it could be on the opposite side of the universe.

What this article does present though is that there are planets on our doorstep which would support our species, which we could colonise etc.

And if it is, I wouldnt get THAT excited. The Universe is pretty.............damn...........BIG.

Like I said, Im incredibly hopeful. But planetary sciences and anything about the Universe just makes me giddy.

When you consider that in the future this galaxy is predicted to collide with another galaxy and there is only a miniscule chance of the stars and planets within them coming into contact. It gives you an idea of the scale of things.

The chances of life have to be quite generous for any alien species to come into contact with the human species throughout it's lifetime.

I bet it's name is Mordia.

ZF-

sebster wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:However, people have said that planets may have life on them before, and nothing was there.

Umm, what? We've been to planets inside this solar system, and nowhere else.

Yeah, and people have said "Oh, this one may contain life! No, no it doesn't never mind. Oh wait! This one may contain life! Oh wait, no no it doesn't..."

Slarg232 wrote:

sebster wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:However, people have said that planets may have life on them before, and nothing was there.

Umm, what? We've been to planets inside this solar system, and nowhere else.

Yeah, and people have said "Oh, this one may contain life! No, no it doesn't never mind. Oh wait! This one may contain life! Oh wait, no no it doesn't..."

I think your confusing the theories that certain planets in our solar system once did (past tense) have life in our solar system, of which there is still much debate. I don't think any space programmes have been launched to planets within our own solar system with any expectation of finding life present.

It's a bit of a leap to call it a second earth when they haven't confirmed that there's water on it... Unless I missed something. I've read a couple of articles and it all seems rather overblown, as disappointing as that seems.

whatwhat wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

sebster wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:However, people have said that planets may have life on them before, and nothing was there.

Umm, what? We've been to planets inside this solar system, and nowhere else.

Yeah, and people have said "Oh, this one may contain life! No, no it doesn't never mind. Oh wait! This one may contain life! Oh wait, no no it doesn't..."

I think your confusing the theories that certain planets in our solar system once did (past tense) have life in our solar system, of which there is still much debate. I don't think any space programmes have been launched to planets within our own solar system with any expectation of finding life present.

The most likely body in our solar system to have life is Europa, which is one of Jupiter's moons. It's being seriously considered melting through the ice on the surface of it's huge liquid-water ocean and dropping a submarine or something down there to have a look around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29#Potential_for_extraterrestrial_life

The first life on Earth was not on a planet with oxygen in the atmosphere.

iirc their descendants, or at least similar organisms, continue to thrive in the noxious environs of our guts

no fart jokes if you please

There's things that live in all kinds of wacky places.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquificae

Yeah
It ain't just space that is mind bogglingly amazing!
If I had the brains I'd be a biologist

Monster Rain wrote:

whatwhat wrote:I think your confusing the theories that certain planets in our solar system once did (past tense) have life in our solar system, of which there is still much debate. I don't think any space programmes have been launched to planets within our own solar system with any expectation of finding life present.

The most likely body in our solar system to have life is Europa, which is one of Jupiter's moons. It's being seriously considered melting through the ice on the surface of it's huge liquid-water ocean and dropping a submarine or something down there to have a look around.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29#Potential_for_extraterrestrial_life

There's also Titan, saturns moon, which has an atmosphere like earth although with methane and not water. It exists in solid, liquid and gas forms. It rains, evaporates erodes etc. It's possible that methane based life forms could exist like water based life forms on earth.

AVATAR

Slarg232 wrote:Yeah, and people have said "Oh, this one may contain life! No, no it doesn't never mind. Oh wait! This one may contain life! Oh wait, no no it doesn't..."

No, they really haven't. There has been discussion over the possibility that Mars might once have had an environment capable of supporting life, so a decent portion of our efforts there have involved looking for evidence that water once flowed.

Other than that there's been a lot of speculation about possible places where life might exist, but we haven't been able to properly investigate any of those yet.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:I was a tad confused by the article.
They said it was full of goldilockness and just right and so like the Earth (if I interpreted correctly).
Then go on to say that it is 3 times bigger is closer to its star with a 37 day orbit.
Oh and it doesn't rotate
so apart from that it is just like the Earth

We finally send a probe which lands on a chair breaking it and it's robotic arm samples the porridge!
Enter 3 ursine aliens


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ps Conditions mean there is 100% chance of life?

He has either been misquoted or needs to reconsider the statement!
As said, just because the conditions are perfect for life is no guarantee that there will be.

Reading comprehension fail.

Try looking at the wiki article of it. It is much clearer than any stupid newspaper article.

AVATAR


We should go ahead and ban unobtanium mining just as a precautionary measure.


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I accidentally qouted myself instead of pressing edit. My bad. Sorry for the repeat post.

Reading comprehension fail.

not sure if you are inferring whether I have misunderstood, or you cannot understand my post.
So another Reading comprehension fail.

The new planet sits smack in the middle of what astronomers refer to as the habitable zone,.

But there are still many unanswered questions about this strange planet. It is about three times the mass of Earth, slightly larger in width and much closer to its star — 14 million miles away versus 93 million. It's so close to its version of the sun that it orbits every 37 days. And it doesn't rotate much, so one side is almost always bright, the other dark

Maybe in a moment of jest I conflated "Habitable" with "possibility of life" but smack in the middle and much closer to it's star seems a tad contradictory to me.

It's in the "Goldilock Zone" hence joke about three bears. Ursine = bearlike
Not hilarious granted but it was late and I am not having a lot of sleeps. So was and still am very tired...

sebster wrote:Well, if we're going to their planet then we're the most advanced. If they're coming here, they are. I guess there's more stories of people coming here because that's more relevant to audiences, and likely a lot cheaper to film.

I'm glad you can point out the obvious. We will always be the one going to other planets becuase we are the most advanced. Our deodorant technology is miles ahead of anything else.

sebster wrote:Thing is, if we could somehow know how many races there are in the galaxy

Oh I know. And I was able to learn it in just 4 easy steps!

rubiksnoob wrote:AVATAR


We should go ahead and ban unobtanium mining just as a precautionary measure.

No, we should just take chemical bombs with us. Can't fight back when they are all "asleep" (ahem).

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:

Reading comprehension fail.

not sure if you are inferring whether I have misunderstood, or you cannot understand my post.
So another Reading comprehension fail.

The new planet sits smack in the middle of what astronomers refer to as the habitable zone,.

Hence Goldilocks...

But there are still many unanswered questions about this strange planet. It is about three times the mass of Earth, slightly larger in width and much closer to its star — 14 million miles away versus 93 million. It's so close to its version of the sun that it orbits every 37 days. And it doesn't rotate much, so one side is almost always bright, the other dark

feth, do yourself a favor and take my advice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_g

Maybe in a moment of jest I conflated "Habitable" with "possibility of life" but smack in the middle and much closer to it's star seems a tad contradictory to me.

Shut your douche nozzle off and read the Habitability portion.

It's in the "Goldilock Zone" hence joke about three bears. Ursine = bearlike

We gathered. Wait are there felines and kanines in the Goldilocks fable?

Not hilarious granted but it was late and I am not having a lot of sleeps. So was and still am very tired...

Douche nozzle? I can't quite tell which of you who said that but cease and desist that crap now please. Lets get htis back to Dakka Rule #1 now thanks.

Huh. We may soon find our hobby becoming a reality...

Cool if it is true, lame if its not.

Mr Mystery wrote:

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:That can be arranged

correction
That will be arranged

No way dude, think of it...we could do the Puritan Exodus but in reverse. We let all the extremist Religious nutters have this clapped out old one, the one they find so Holy, then the more rational religious types, the agnostics and the atheists can naff off to another a planet. Would be the perfect answer.

Then those religious types that stay here decide that the space belongs to them as well.

Thats when we start our space war and while fighting we stumble onto a unknown alien relic which triggers the alien spices to awaken. After the Aliens have destroyed most of our other colonized planets we deiced to join forces and work to destroy the alien threat forever......

Ahtman wrote:I'm glad you can point out the obvious. We will always be the one going to other planets becuase we are the most advanced. Our deodorant technology is miles ahead of anything else.

Having been on public transportation, I doubt that.

I've already been excited about the planets of the Gliese 581 system, (2 others are on the edge of the habitable zone), but when they found this I was like "awesome!" It was like 2 in the morning and I called one of my friends and told him to look it up. He was irritated at first, then he was like holy awesome!