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Space Marines die in battle.

Dante is at least 1000 years old and still kicking

in all likelyhood marines are physically immortal. there is evidence that marines do show detieriation of the body, but this is purely an Astetic change. marines do sometimes get "Retired" to train new recruits. usually because they have suffered grevious injuries that impair their combat abilities.


the Oldest Marine alive is Bjorn and he's in a Dreadnought so he really doens't count as he has slept for the better part of that 10k years.

Oldest marine is actually probably abbadon. But as stated he is in the time warping warp.

ChocolateGork wrote:Oldest marine is actually probably abbadon. But as stated he is in the time warping warp.

If Space Marines are physically immortal, then the time-warping effects of the Eye of Terror should be purely superficial. But then again, he is a warrior who fought in the Great Crusade 10,000 years before.

and, according to his Biological Clock, only a few hundred years has passed.

So basically Marines have particularly long telomeres.

Fun times.

Kharn the Betrayer is an 10000 years old berserker. I ask myself how he didn't get fed of it? I mean i loose interes on most stuff after a couple of days or weeks.

Kuzbas wrote:Kharn the Betrayer is an 10000 years old berserker. I ask myself how he didn't get fed of it?

Yeah but he has been in the eoT for most of that time so it's only been a few hundred years to him whereas it's been several thousand outside.

I am sure there are some Chaos Marines who have had significantly more time pass than others. They do not all camp out in the Eye of Terror.

Fabius Bile, for one, has been causing havoc across the universe for the entire span since the heresy.

Just because Soul Hunter had only a couple hundred "real" years pass doesn't mean that applies to everyone.

Also, some may have had more than 10,000 years pass. The warp doesn't always shorten the time, sometimes it stretches it as well.

Yes, but the dark gods also slow aging for champoins.

I read in the Book Rynn's World that the planetary governor was over 100 yrs old, but still looked like she was in her 20's. Rejuvinative drugs were the cause.

So to sum it up, Drugs are Good.
Just look at Keith Richards.

-Matt

but Juvnat drugs/treatments are only avaliable to the wealthy who can afford them.


and i wouldn't count any Chaos marines. the influence of Chaos means all bets are off for aging.

Thanks to the warp, anyone who travels alot has all bets off as far as aging. You could go into the warp at age 20, come out 21, and find out it's 3 years in the past, or 40 years in the future....

Iirc, IG fluff has Captain al'Rahem being a veteran of the Macharian Crusades thanks to the way the Warp works.

Yeah, also Straken is about a hundred or something if you think about it. One of his earliest entries in the IG date section is about 925.M41, so for him to have risen through the ranks and still be here at 999.M41..

Darkvoidof40k wrote:Yeah, also Straken is about a hundred or something if you think about it. One of his earliest entries in the IG date section is about 925.M41, so for him to have risen through the ranks and still be here at 999.M41..

And still beating the crap out of anything that gets in his way..

Grey Templar wrote:but Juvnat drugs/treatments are only avaliable to the wealthy who can afford them.


and i wouldn't count any Chaos marines. the influence of Chaos means all bets are off for aging.

Actually some of the fluff implies that they're not so expensive IIRC.

If you have ever read any ciaphas cain books, in one of them it says that ciaphas has been serving for 200 something years, and all the cybernetics he has are three metal fingers, also on the book cover he looks pretty young.

In space hulk seargent lorenzo is 600 and something years old, you can see that he has grey hair and looks a bit old so i think space marines do age, another example is scout seargent tellion of the ultramarines, i dont know how old he is but he look like an old man.

In my fluff there is a marine that is over 1,952 years old. But he no-longer serves in battle, and he is considered a relic of the chapter. As he remembers alot. And he is the one that crowns the chapter master. But other than that space marines can live for a very long time.


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Malice wrote:If you have ever read any ciaphas cain books, in one of them it says that ciaphas has been serving for 200 something years, and all the cybernetics he has are three metal fingers, also on the book cover he looks pretty young.

In space hulk seargent lorenzo is 600 and something years old, you can see that he has grey hair and looks a bit old so i think space marines do age, another example is scout seargent tellion of the ultramarines, i dont know how old he is but he look like an old man.

every ultramarine looks old. They age more than the any other chapter.

ps oh just noticed the guy right on top of me has ciaphas cain as his avater so you can see for yourself

Malice wrote:ps oh just noticed the guy right on top of me has ciaphas cain as his avater so you can see for yourself

Ciaphas don't you mean Altanstar? Thats the guy that is in my picture D:

The age of Cain on the covers is not necessarily accurate. Details are wrong. He never uses a bolt pistol in the stories.

I believe the books address the covers at some point, calling them propaganda posters or some such.

skrulnik wrote:I am sure there are some Chaos Marines who have had significantly more time pass than others. They do not all camp out in the Eye of Terror.

Fabius Bile, for one, has been causing havoc across the universe for the entire span since the heresy.

Just because Soul Hunter had only a couple hundred "real" years pass doesn't mean that applies to everyone.

Also, some may have had more than 10,000 years pass. The warp doesn't always shorten the time, sometimes it stretches it as well.

Never read Soul Hunter but there are other sources saying the same thing , the guys in the warp don't experience the same amount of time as the people outside.

purplefood wrote:Never read Soul Hunter but there are other sources saying the same thing , the guys in the warp don't experience the same amount of time as the people outside.

Well my point was simply that a couple hundred relative years or 20,000 relative years are just as likely.

skrulnik wrote:

purplefood wrote:Never read Soul Hunter but there are other sources saying the same thing , the guys in the warp don't experience the same amount of time as the people outside.

Well my point was simply that a couple hundred relative years or 20,000 relative years are just as likely.

Considering that the warp messes things up time wise whether travelling through it or just chilling inside it i doubt either side notices.

When you think about the dangers in the galaxy, it's that people are immortal, it's just that old age is very low on the list og things that will kill you by that time.

Warptime isn't constant- so it's hard to tell age. Also, Chaos marines are sorta protected by the gods.

Some marines who have survived in warp as long as the CSM have are the 13th company of SW- but that's only because of their wulfen genes, and they've been around, some of them, since the time of russ's landing on fenris!

No aherian command, i was talking about Ivans's pic


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its just that you wrote something just before i wrote that

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Malice wrote:ps oh just noticed the guy right on top of me has ciaphas cain as his avater so you can see for yourself

Ciaphas don't you mean Altanstar? Thats the guy that is in my picture D:

He refers to my avatar and Cain used juvenat drugs and even two hundred years(he's not that old on the avatar) old he looked like a fifty year old.

I wonder why people keep confusing the Warp for the Eye of Terror. I'm pretty sure time works differently for both.

....No. The Eye of Terror is part of the Warp. It's just a part of the Warp that just so happens to coexist with real space.