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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/07 03:43:51
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Thanks man, alas, he did not cheat. Just ran a very good list. Wait, no, he DID cheat! The way he read the special holofields for the raiders, melta weapons wouldn't be able to hit his ships unless they were infernus pistols! I kept trying to argue with him to no avail. Still killed me the second game when it didn't matter...grumble grumble...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/07 04:06:39
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Middle Earth
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yeenoghu wrote:That's what I meant. For this game I thought those kind of units weren't supposed to count. I wondered if there was something different or special about the Blood Angels rules and FOC specifically that I was unaware of, or is it that people are just ignoring that little rule set aout at the beginning of this thread?
They are limited though, to 2, one per HQ choice. I think the rule is to remove things like drones and stuff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/07 05:15:46
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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EmilCrane wrote:yeenoghu wrote:That's what I meant. For this game I thought those kind of units weren't supposed to count. I wondered if there was something different or special about the Blood Angels rules and FOC specifically that I was unaware of, or is it that people are just ignoring that little rule set aout at the beginning of this thread? They are limited though, to 2, one per HQ choice. I think the rule is to remove things like drones and stuff Yea but the rules state: A-P wrote: ( please note that units that do not count for FOC are not part of the calculations ) So here is the updated BA list, and added a few things you missed Emil Asteroth 220* The Sanguinor 275* 10 Terminators&chainfist 2 Assault Cannons Land Raider all trimmings 806* 10 Terminators&chainfist 2 Assault Cannons Land Raider all trimmings 806* 10 Terminators&chainfist 2 Assault Cannons Land Raider all trimmings 806* 30Death Company&Jump packs 60 thunder hammers Lemartes 3000* 30Death Company&Jump packs 60 thunder hammers 2850* 30Death Company&Jump packs 60 thunder hammers 2850* 30Death Company&Jump packs 60 thunder hammers 2850* 30Death Company&Jump packs 60 thunder hammers 2850* 30Death Company&Jump packs 60 thunder hammers 2850* Vanguard Vets 10 T. hammerX2&meltabomb Sgt. Thammerx2&meltabombs Land Raider all trimmings 1146* Vanguard Vets 10 T. hammerX2&meltabomb Sgt. Thammerx2&meltabombs Land Raider all trimmings 1146* Vanguard Vets 10 T. hammerX2&meltabomb Sgt. Thammerx2&meltabombs Land Raider all trimmings 1146* Dev Squad 10, 4 Lascannons Sarge PfistX2 & Meltabomb Land Raider all trimmings 621* Dev Squad 10, 4 Lascannons Sarge PfistX2 & Meltabomb Land Raider all trimmings 621* Dev Squad 10, 4 Lascannons Sarge PfistX2 & Meltabomb Land Raider all trimmings 621* Total of 25464* Edit: Fixed what i missed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/07 05:28:57
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Can't DC take 2 Thunder Hammers each?
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/07 05:54:21
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Middle Earth
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Grey Templar wrote:Can't DC take 2 Thunder Hammers each?
Yes they can
Also: D'oh! Termies can combat squad into land raiders
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/07 21:02:47
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Thanks for all the input  . I just got back home from a long day with fun & games. As a result I am really in need of some sleep so I will do the revised Table of Honor tomorrow.
EDIT: The Table of Honor is now updated on the first page.
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12001st Valusian Airborne
Chrome Warriors
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 19:40:35
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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@ deathreaper
Your points for the vanguard vets should be 1146 if i'm not mistaken. Should be 850 for the squad and 296 for the LR, no?
Also, you can't take infernus pistols and 2 x T. hammer as the infernus pistol needs to replace the bolt pistol that you already replaced with a T. Hammer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 01:16:20
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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ok all, so I hate to do this to one of my favorite armies, but The BT post in the original thread was wrong in some ways, this unfortunately lowers the points somewhat, but this is all in being honest!
HQ
marshal thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon iron halo attached master of sanctity thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon cenobyte servitors command squad (9) tank hunters apothecary/fighting company standard bearer/fighting company champion/thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon/sacred standard termi honours/furious charge lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 1631
marshal thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon adamantine mantle attached master of sanctity thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon command squad (9) tank hunters apothecary/fighting company standard bearer/fighting company champion/thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon/chapter banner termi honours/furious charge lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 1646
Troops
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (5 bp/ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb emperor's champion aacnmtc 774
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (5 bp/ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 634
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (4 bp/ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 624
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (5 bp/ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 634
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (5 bp/ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 634
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (5 bp/ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 634
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sword brethren terminator squad, 8 tank hunters cyclone missile launcher (2) chain fists (8) lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 763
sword brethren terminator squad, 8 tank hunters cyclone missile launcher (2) chain fists (8) lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 763
sword brethren terminator squad, 8 tank hunters cyclone missile launcher (2) chain fists (8) lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 763
Fast Attack
assault marine, 10 krak/melta bombs flamer (2) power fist storm shield(8) 301
assault marine, 10 krak/melta bombs flamer (2) power fist storm shield(8) 301
assault marine, 10 krak/melta bombs flamer (2) power fist storm shield(8) 301
Heavy Support
land raider crusader, 1 blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 329
land raider crusader, 1 blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 329
land raider crusader, 1 blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 329
Points Summary:
HQ: 3277
Troops: 3934
Elites: 2289
Fast Attack: 903
Heavy Support: 987
Total: 11390
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 01:29:03
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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You can make DC around 3000 points for one troops choice. Hands down, the most exspensive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 01:39:00
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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Happygrunt wrote:You can make DC around 3000 points for one troops choice. Hands down, the most exspensive.
then make a list to prove it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 02:02:59
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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You can't take 10 terminators in a land raider can you? the rules say things in terminator armor take up 2 slots in a vehicle meaning the most you can take is 8 in a LRC. Also Mephiston is more expensive than astorath
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 02:05:58
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Lax35 wrote:You can't take 10 terminators in a land raider can you? the rules say things in terminator armor take up 2 slots in a vehicle meaning the most you can take is 8 in a LRC. Also Mephiston is more expensive than astorath
You need Astorath to have all the DC lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 02:18:43
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Sneaky Lictor
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I believe the ork list is wrong... The list I saw in the previous thread must be wrong. Flash Gitz don't get near the points mentioned...
These should be the max points:
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Ghazghull (Ammo runt) 228
Mad Dok Grotsnik 160 points (not the most expensive but gives Cybork to everything and becomes a major point multiplier)
Elites
10x Nobz (Bike, Stikkbomb, Power Klaw, TL Shoota, Boss pole, Waagh banner, Eavy armor (redundant), Ammo runt, Cybork Bodies)
1090 points
10x Nobz (Bike, Stikkbomb, Power Klaw, TL Shoota, Boss pole, Waagh banner, Eavy armor (redundant), Ammo runt, Cybork Bodies)
1090 points
10x Nobz (Bike, Stikkbomb, Power Klaw, TL Shoota, Boss pole, Waagh banner, Eavy armor (redundant), Ammo runt, Cybork Bodies)
1090 points
Troops
10x Nobz (Bike, Stikkbomb, Power Klaw, TL Shoota, Boss pole, Waagh banner, Eavy armor (redundant), Ammo runt, Cybork Bodies)
1090 points
29x Ard Boys (Stikkbombs, 3x Rocket Launcha, Cybork Bodies)
1x Nob (Stikkbomb, PowerKlaw, Bosspole, Cybork Body)
550 points
29x Boys (Stikkbombs, 3x Rocket Launcha, Cybork Bodies)
1x Nob (Stikkbomb, PowerKlaw, ‘eavy Armor, Bosspole, Cybork Body)
435 points
29x Boys (Stikkbombs, 3x Rocket Launcha, Cybork Bodies)
1x Nob (Stikkbomb, PowerKlaw, ‘eavy Armor, Bosspole, Cybork Body)
435 points
29x Boys (Stikkbombs, 3x Rocket Launcha, Cybork Bodies)
1x Nob (Stikkbomb, PowerKlaw, ‘eavy Armor, Bosspole, Cybork Body)
435 points
29x Boys (Stikkbombs, 3x Rocket Launcha, Cybork Bodies)
1x Nob (Stikkbomb, PowerKlaw, ‘eavy Armor, Bosspole, Cybork Body)
435 points
Fast Attack
5x Deffkoptas (TL Rocket Launcha, Bigbomb, Buzzsaw, Cybork Bodies)
450 points
5x Deffkoptas (TL Rocket Launcha, Bigbomb, Buzzsaw, Cybork Bodies)
450 points
5x Deffkoptas (TL Rocket Launcha, Bigbomb, Buzzsaw, Cybork Bodies)
450 points
Heavy Support
8x Flash Gitz (More Dakka, Shootier, Blastas, 3 ammo runts, Cybork Bodies)
1x Pain Boy (Cybork Bodies, Grot ordely)
1x Kaptin Bandrukk
575 points
9x Flash Gitz (More Dakka, Shootier, Blastas, 3 ammo runts, Cybork Bodies)
1x Pain Boy (Cybork Bodies, Grot ordely)
485 points
9x Flash Gitz (More Dakka, Shootier, Blastas, 3 ammo runts, Cybork Bodies)
1x Pain Boy (Cybork Bodies, Grot ordely)
485 points
Total 9933
I dont think it gets more expensive than this
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FaarisShazad wrote:The guy with the spiky dildo for a picture had a good point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 03:15:23
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Nulipuli2 wrote:... Troops:
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent...
...Overall Total:8328
Hah! i beat the old calculation by 111.
Sorry, but Wraithguard can only be troop if it's a unit of 10 led by a spiritseer. Other than that it's the same as I came up with.
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2x Farseer: Singing Spear, Runes of warding+witnessing, spirit stones, jetbike
Warlocks (10): spiritseer, singing spear, conceal, jetbikes - 918
Total:1836
Elites:
3x Wriahguard (5)
-Warlock: spiritseer, singing spear, conceal
-Wave Serpent: TW bright lance, shuriken cannon, vector engines, star engines, spirit stones -414
Total:1242
Troops:
6x Wriahguard (10)
-Warlock: spiritseer, singing spear, conceal -399
Total:2394
Fast Attack:
3x Vyper Squadron (3): bright lance, shuriken cannon, vector engines, star engines, spirit stones, holofields -495
Total:1485
Heavy Support:
3x Dark Reapers (5): Exarch, tempest launcher, fast shot, crack shot
-Wave Serpent: TW bright lance, shuriken cannon, vector engines, star engines, spirit stones -427
Total:1281
So 8238pts. 90pts less then the current record, but legal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 03:49:46
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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A-P wrote: Thanks for all the input  . I just got back home from a long day with fun & games. As a result I am really in need of some sleep so I will do the revised Table of Honor tomorrow.
EDIT: The Table of Honor is now updated on the first page.
Please use The Defenstrator's points for Dark Eldar; the 6820 you have being reported in from MinMax is not legal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 04:52:15
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Major
Middle Earth
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Lax35 wrote:You can't take 10 terminators in a land raider can you? the rules say things in terminator armor take up 2 slots in a vehicle meaning the most you can take is 8 in a LRC. Also Mephiston is more expensive than astorath
Terminators can combat squad, and someone has already made the DC list, sort of
Except his DC didn't have 2 TH each, this should be remedied
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 06:28:52
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Dok wrote:@ deathreaper Your points for the vanguard vets should be 1146 if i'm not mistaken. Should be 850 for the squad and 296 for the LR, no? Also, you can't take infernus pistols and 2 x T. hammer as the infernus pistol needs to replace the bolt pistol that you already replaced with a T. Hammer. Updated My list. Lax35 wrote:You can't take 10 terminators in a land raider can you? the rules say things in terminator armor take up 2 slots in a vehicle meaning the most you can take is 8 in a LRC. Also Mephiston is more expensive than astorath The terminators do not need to ride in the land raiders assigned to them. They can run next to the land raider if they wanted too. EmilCrane wrote:...Except his DC didn't have 2 TH each, this should be remedied They did in the points, but it only showed 30 TH's, forgot to copy over the X2
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"Did you notice a sign out in front of my chapel that said "Land Raider Storage"?" -High Chaplain Astorath the Grim Redeemer of the Lost.
I sold my soul to the devil and now the bastard is demanding a refund!
We do not have an attorney-client relationship. I am not your lawyer. The statements I make do not constitute legal advice. Any statements made by me are based upon the limited facts you have presented, and under the premise that you will consult with a local attorney. This is not an attempt to solicit business. This disclaimer is in addition to any disclaimers that this website has made.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 06:34:47
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Nulipuli2 wrote:HQ:
Farseer-228
Warlocks (10)-690
Farseer-228
Warlocks (10)-690
Total:1836
Troops:
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Total:2484
Elites:
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Wriahguard (5+1)-414
-Wave Serpent
Total:1242
Fast Attack:
Vyper Squadron-495
Vyper Squadron-495
Vyper Squadron-495
Total:1485
Heavy Support:
Dark Reapers-427
-Wave Serpent
Dark Reapers-427
-Wave Serpent
Dark Reapers-427
-Wave Serpent
Total:1281
Overall Total:8328
Hah! i beat the old calculation by 111.
Thats because the list is illegal. The only way to take wraithguard as troops is to take them in units of ten w/ a spiritseer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 10:08:51
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Does this mean I get the tops spot for Eldar then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 10:29:15
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Lax35 wrote:You can't take 10 terminators in a land raider can you? the rules say things in terminator armor take up 2 slots in a vehicle meaning the most you can take is 8 in a LRC. Also Mephiston is more expensive than astorath
The terminators do not need to ride in the land raiders assigned to them. They can run next to the land raider if they wanted too.
In light of this, the updated Templar list:
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marshal thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon iron halo attached master of sanctity thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon cenobyte servitors (3) command squad (9) tank hunters apothecary/fighting company standard bearer/fighting company champion/thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon/sacred standard termi honours/furious charge lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 1631
marshal thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon adamantine mantle attached master of sanctity thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon command squad (9) tank hunters apothecary/fighting company standard bearer/fighting company champion/thunder hammer (2)/terminator honours/melta bombs/krak /& frag/holy orb/teleport homer/mastercrafted weapon/chapter banner termi honours/furious charge lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 1646
Troops
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (10 bp/ ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb emperor's champion aacnmtc 769
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (10 bp/ ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 629
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (10 bp/ ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 629
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (10 bp/ ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 629
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (10 bp/ ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 629
crusader squad, 10 bolt pistol & chainsword (8) meltagun (1) plasma cannon (1) neophytes (10 bp/ ccw) frag/krak crusader seals lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 629
Elites
sword brethren terminator squad, 10 tank hunters cyclone missile launcher (2) chain fists (8) lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 843
sword brethren terminator squad, 10 tank hunters cyclone missile launcher (2) chain fists (8) lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 843
sword brethren terminator squad, 10 tank hunters cyclone missile launcher (2) chain fists (8) lrc blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 843
Fast Attack
assault marine, 10 krak/melta bombs flamer (2) power fist storm shield(8) 301
assault marine, 10 krak/melta bombs flamer (2) power fist storm shield(8) 301
assault marine, 10 krak/melta bombs flamer (2) power fist storm shield(8) 301
Heavy Support
land raider crusader, 1 blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 329
land raider crusader, 1 blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 329
land raider crusader, 1 blessed hull smoke search light dozer blades hkm pmsb 329
Points Summary:
HQ: 3277
Troops: 3914
Elites: 2529
Fast Attack: 903
Heavy Support: 987
Total: 11610
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 16:51:42
Subject: How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Pyro-Druid wrote:Does this mean I get the tops spot for Eldar then?
I would say so, yes. I see nothing illegal with your list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 13:16:08
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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As requested, adding the new (hopefully correct) Grey knights list.
Grey Knights:
HQ
Lord Kaldor Draigo 275 pts
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor + Henchmen Warband ( 12 Jokaero + fully upgraded Razorback) 734 points
Subtotal: 1009 pts
Troops
Paladin Squad (9 Paladins, 1 Palapothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 4 Psycannons, 8 Falchions, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x20) 910 pts
Paladin Squad (9 Paladins, 1 Palapothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 4 Psycannons, 8 Falchions, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x20) 910 pts
Paladin Squad (9 Paladins, 1 Palapothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 4 Psycannons, 8 Falchions, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x20) 910 pts
Paladin Squad (9 Paladins, 1 Palapothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 4 Psycannons, 8 Falchions, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x20) 910 pts
Paladin Squad (9 Paladins, 1 Palapothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 4 Psycannons, 8 Falchions, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x20) 910 pts
Paladin Squad (9 Paladins, 1 Palapothecary, Brotherhood Banner, Warding Stave, 4 Psycannons, 8 Falchions, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x20) 910 pts
Subtotal: 5460 pts
Elites
Purifier Squad (10 Purifiers, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, 4 Psycannons, 5 Falchions, Master Crafted Weapons x2, Digital Weapons, Fully upgraded AssCan Razorback) 511 pts
Purifier Squad (10 Purifiers, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, 4 Psycannons, 5 Falchions, Master Crafted Weapons x2, Digital Weapons, Fully upgraded AssCan Razorback) 511 pts
Purifier Squad (10 Purifiers, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, 4 Psycannons, 5 Falchions, Master Crafted Weapons x2, Digital Weapons, Fully upgraded AssCan Razorback) 511 pts
Subtotal: 1533 pts
Fast Attack
Interceptor Squad (10 Grey Knights, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, 2 Incinerators, 7 Falchions, Master Crafted Weapons x2) 425 pts
Interceptor Squad (10 Grey Knights, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, 2 Incinerators, 7 Falchions, Master Crafted Weapons x2) 425 pts
Interceptor Squad (10 Grey Knights, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, 2 Incinerators, 7 Falchions, Master Crafted Weapons x2) 425 pts
Subtotal: 1275 pts
Heavy Support
Purgation Squad (10 Grey Knights, 4 Psycannons, 5 Falchions, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x2, Teleport Homer, Fully upgraded AssCan Razorback) 536 pts
Purgation Squad (10 Grey Knights, 4 Psycannons, 5 Falchions, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x2, Teleport Homer, Fully upgraded AssCan Razorback) 536 pts
Purgation Squad (10 Grey Knights, 4 Psycannons, 5 Falchions, Warding Stave, Psybolt Ammunition, Master Crafted Weapons x2, Teleport Homer, Fully upgraded AssCan Razorback) 536 pts
Subtotal: 1608 pts
Total:
10.885 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 14:34:51
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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No additional equipment for the Xeno Inquisitor?
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 17:22:52
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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I beat the grey knight list posted above by about 400 pts. HQ Draigo: 275 HQ Inquisitor Karamazov: 200 Henchmen: 3x Warriors with 2x PF, Power Armor, Melta Bombs, 9x Jokaero: 522 Razorback: Everything: 146 Elite: 10x Purifiers: 4x cannons, 5x Hammers, Stave, psybolt , 2xMC weapons digital: 360 Razorback: Everything: 146 This times 3 Troops: 10x Paladins: Apothecary, 4x Cannons, 4x Falchions, 1x Stave, 1x Banner, psybolt, 18x MC weapons : 885 This times 6 Fast: 10x Interceptors: 2x incerators, 7x Hammers, Stave, Psybolt, 2x MC weapons: 425 This times 3 Heavy: 10x Purgation: 4x cannons, 5x Falchions, Stave, psybolt, 2x MC, homer: 390 Razorback: Everything: 146 This times 3 The grand total is : 10869 pts. ===================== Couple of things wrong with the Above Grey Knight list. 1) You can not take 20 MC weapons in a paladin squad. Both the Brotherhood Banner and Narthecum replace a weapon and are not a weapon. 2) I fixed the HQ so you will get a few more points out of it. 3) Lastly a question. Since the Falchions are a "pair" of weapons can you master craft them both?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 17:24:48
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Don'y you mean you are short by about 400 points
and you didn't put the super expensive Apothacary in all of the Paladins.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 17:32:16
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Finland
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Thanks for the new calculations for the Grey Knights. I will update the front page results
once a consensus has been reached by the involved parties.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 19:11:24
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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svendrex wrote:I beat the grey knight list posted above by about 400 pts.
HQ Draigo: 275
HQ Inquisitor Karamazov: 200
Henchmen: 3x Warriors with 2x PF, Power Armor, Melta Bombs, 9x Jokaero: 522
Razorback: Everything: 146
This is correct, for some reason I thought the special inquisitors couldn't take henchman, which doesn't make much sense.
Subtotal: 1143
Elite: 10x Purifiers: 4x cannons, 5x Hammers, Stave, psybolt , 2xMC weapons digital: 360
Razorback: Everything: 146
This times 3
The writeup is correct, the total not, it's 365 pts each squad.
Subtotal: 1533
Troops: 10x Paladins: Apothecary, 4x Cannons, 4x Falchions, 1x Stave, 1x Banner, psybolt, 18x MC weapons : 885
This times 6
You're right about the MC weapons, but paladins wear terminator armor so they retain their melee weapon while wielding a psycannon. Correct total is 900 points per squad.
Subtotal: 5400
Fast: 10x Interceptors: 2x incerators, 7x Hammers, Stave, Psybolt, 2x MC weapons: 425
This times 3
Heavy: 10x Purgation: 4x cannons, 5x Falchions, Stave, psybolt, 2x MC, homer: 390
Razorback: Everything: 146
This times 3
Both are correct.
Subtotal: 2283
The grand total is : 10869 pts.
The correct total is: 10.959 pts
3) Lastly a question. Since the Falchions are a "pair" of weapons can you master craft them both?
I thought about this... No definite answer till the FAQ comes out... The answer is the same as the +1 or +2 attacks... If they count as two weapons you can MC them both and gain +2 attacks, otherwise you MC them as a single weapons and get only +1 attack... That said, would MCing them both give any advantage?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 19:32:28
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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the rules actually say you may only MC one of the Falchions(wielding 2 MC weapons doesn't give you 2 rerolls)
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 19:38:36
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Grey Templar wrote:the rules actually say you may only MC one of the Falchions(wielding 2 MC weapons doesn't give you 2 rerolls)
That is most probably true, but RAW, if the falchions count as two weapons, you can MC them both nevertheless since the entry states "*any* weapon". It'd have no effect, but would still be legal I guess...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/02 19:45:18
Subject: Re:How expensive can you make your FOC chart? (REDUX)
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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it was a clarification in the Falchion entry to stop you from wasting points on a useless upgrade.
actually rather helpful.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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