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God man....You're scary. I've never used the word cornhole in my life...Until now.

I don't mind them terribly. I take it for what it is, entertainment. No sense getting worked up about something that's meant to entertain those less intelligent than you

From a purely cinematographic view, the movie was impressive. Nice effects (except for that part where his skin was glowing. That was the only bad part ), nice angles. Good ambient noise. I liked it, in other words

I've got the wife teed up to see Black Swan. It looks good. Plus it should be at the Alamo Drafthouse, so sobriety will not be an option!

Samus_aran115 wrote:
I don't mind them terribly. I take it for what it is, entertainment. No sense getting worked up about something that's meant to entertain those less intelligent than you

I view Twilight as EXTREMELY damaging to the perception of what "love" means to young girls these days. The relationships portrayed in the films are downright sick in their level of control, emotional extremes, and self injurious/dangerous behavior. They don't expound on the virtue of love or the mutual respect its supposed to bring, they just show two horribly immature people that just can't live with or without each other. Combined with the extremely blatant sexual overtones it makes for a pretty bad role model for girls (and guys) these days.

And anyone that says media has no effect on kids, I'll be happy to provide statistical data that supports my claim.

Dear Popular Media Culture.

Please stop queering up Vampires.

Love and Hugs,

Mr Mystery.

agroszkiewicz wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:
I don't mind them terribly. I take it for what it is, entertainment. No sense getting worked up about something that's meant to entertain those less intelligent than you

I view Twilight as EXTREMELY damaging to the perception of what "love" means to young girls these days. The relationships portrayed in the films are downright sick in their level of control, emotional extremes, and self injurious/dangerous behavior. They don't expound on the virtue of love or the mutual respect its supposed to bring, they just show two horribly immature people that just can't live with or without each other. Combined with the extremely blatant sexual overtones it makes for a pretty bad role model for girls (and guys) these days.

And anyone that says media has no effect on kids, I'll be happy to provide statistical data that supports my claim.

Agreed. Let's ban anything and everything that can be interpreted as having a negative influence on children.

First up: violence.

Anything that portrays violence in a good light should be immediately banned. So, that's thousands of movies, books, tv shows, radio dramas, video games, and board/miniature games. Don't forget all the websites that promote any of these activities.

So long, Dakka!

Grakmar wrote:

agroszkiewicz wrote:Shocking! The girl is hot though....I'd eat strawberry jam out of her cornhole with a little silver spoon.

I thought I had come across every fetish the internet had to offer.

Congratulations, sir, you have won the award for overly specific, weird, and creepy without being over the top disgusting fetish of the year.

Please, before handing it over....Bestialnecrofelching.

I think that trophy belongs to me.

Grakmar wrote:
Agreed. Let's ban anything and everything that can be interpreted as having a negative influence on children.

First up: violence.

Anything that portrays violence in a good light should be immediately banned. So, that's thousands of movies, books, tv shows, radio dramas, video games, and board/miniature games. Don't forget all the websites that promote any of these activities.

So long, Dakka!

Of course its up to the parents to decide what and how they raise kids, but having an entertainment juggernaut aimed squarely at preteen and teen females that portrays genuinely sick relationships as "true love" isn't a good thing. I don't care about violence, thats a constant in life and kids will learn how to deal with it. I do care a lot about teaching our young ones how to have communicative and healthy relationships both with their peers and with their romantic partners. These movies damage that pretty deeply.

Well, you know what? If Twihards want to rave about how utterly magnificent and instaclassic their "saga" is, that's fine by me. I'll just tune them out with a dose of the original Predator. Now that's how you do scary woodland chase scenes.

Samus_aran115 wrote:From a purely cinematographic view, the movie was impressive

It is fine to like them, but don't go making things up now.


What most people seem to miss is that Bella is the villain. She pits people against each other and causes problems just to stay at the center of attention. All of the movies are about a narcissists manipulations of those around her.

While generally don't feel to much one way or the other about the rest of the cast, Kristen Stewart is awful, just flat out awful. She has the emotional range of a piece of wet cardboard. No matter the situation it is the same expression. The villain is an important, if not the most important, role in a story, and she just doesn't have the skill to pull it off. It also does not help that even with make-up it looks like her skull is trying to suck her eyeballs to the back of her head.

I had to do a search to see who "Bella" was. Damn, I feel good knowing this has passed me by.

Oh, and that girl looks like she's falling asleep ALL THE TIME!

You're insulting wet cardboard's acting abilities, Ahtman.

I knew becuase I watched the Rifftrax version of Twilight. Even with commentary Manos the Hands of Fate is a more enjoyable viewing.

Sometimes, I think it isn't so much Kristen Stewart is a bad actor, so much as Bella is a bland character. I mean, there are some scenes where she shows emotion, and actually seems to be doing acting. However, as soon as you put her with Edward her personality falls to zero.

Not that it was very high to begin with, mind you.

ChrisWWII wrote:Sometimes, I think it isn't so much Kristen Stewart is a bad actor, so much as Bella is a bland character. I mean, there are some scenes where she shows emotion, and actually seems to be doing acting. However, as soon as you put her with Edward her personality falls to zero.

Not that it was very high to begin with, mind you.

She was great in 'the runaways'..She made a more than worthy Joan Jett, IMO

Samus_aran115 wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:Sometimes, I think it isn't so much Kristen Stewart is a bad actor, so much as Bella is a bland character. I mean, there are some scenes where she shows emotion, and actually seems to be doing acting. However, as soon as you put her with Edward her personality falls to zero.

Not that it was very high to begin with, mind you.

She was great in 'the runaways'..She made a more than worthy Joan Jett, IMO

No offense, but as a guy that loves my late 70's early 80's punk movement history this comment makes me feel the need to slap you upside the head. Purely a gut reaction thing, nothing personal.

It's Twighlight
Vampires glow and sparkle in the sunlight amd teenage girls fall in love rather than have their throats torn out

I don't get what is going on either, but it is what Twighlight does.
The Anti-Twilight setiment rises more than the living dead on this site
If you are subjected to the movies/videos/books/calender/parephrenalia and sundry related gubbins; be a man and keep it to yourself.

That way there is less space dedicated to the hated on Dakka.
Thank you kindly

Twilight - A bland, featureless girl is torn between necrophelia and bestiality.

wut?

Someone told me I should read the book (back before they were the latest craze) and I honestly couldn't make it past the first few pages. Clearly written for pre-teen females. I see nothing wrong with that. What I do think is wrong is the near religious fanaticism. Walk up to any fan of the series and say it was "mediocre, at best," and you'd think the Spanish inquisition was coming after you. That is what I think is most absurd.

As for my opinion on the quality of it all? Well, I've had more fun watching the paint on my mini's dry.

CrashUSAR wrote:Twilight - A bland, featureless girl is torn between necrophelia and bestiality.

As for my opinion on the quality of it all? Well, I've had more fun watching the paint on my mini's dry.

Congratulations sir, you've just gotten my "random forum quote of the day" award. This is now my status on facebook as a "random forum quote of the day".

Try walking into a GW store and saying the game is mediocre

or into any fan based event

Star Trekkies at a convention are just as unlikely to respond with a collective, Hell! you're so right dude"

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Try walking into a GW store and saying the game is mediocre

But it is, as far as miniatures games go. The miniatures are nice though.

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:or into any fan based event

So can one be a fan of something without being a zealot? There are things I like but i wouldn't call every one of them good just by virtue of me enjoying them. There is a difference between enjoying anime and being an otaku, for instance. Even in gaming circles there is a difference between someone who enjoys the game and the guy who doesn't wash and wants to argue every single rule every single time, writing odes to how much he loves Andy Chambers and how their love will never die.

If anyone wants a funny perspective/plot synapses of the entire series, look up "Blogging Twilight", by Dan Bergstein. A man's critical perspective of the entire series, chapter by chapter. I never knew that a series with so many plot holes could become a best seller.

I read somewhere (or I'm just now making up) that Twilight was written with Bella as bland so that the readers could associate with her better. Which isn't' a bold artistic choice as much as it's a craven attempt to give people what they want: the chance to feel like the center of attention.

Saying the writing is bad is like pointing out that the writing in Aqua Teen Hunger force is bad: neither is about telling a story. They're about filling a need.

What's wrong with vegetarian vampires?

Twilight is cool. Not because of the characters or the plot or any of those things, but because it makes nerd boys cry.

These threads are better than GW price rise threads.

It doesn't make the nerdy part of me cry, it makes the reader side of me cry.

ChrisWWII wrote:It doesn't make the nerdy part of me cry, it makes the reader side of me cry.

The ruining your nerdy vampire genre bit is just a bonus right?

FDR doll disapproves (yes, that is his disapproving face).

Remember, porn for women is all in the mental realm. Hence why they read smut novels. We manly men are visual.

The point I was trying to make, Ahtman, is that there are often groups of people who will get nuts in any aspect of life.
Twighlight being no exception.
And yes, there will be a majority of readers/filmgoers of the series that don't flip out.
It is constantly being criticised on this forum and I am not sure why it gets under the skin of people tbh

Some teenage girls like Sparkly vamp and/or werewolf more than unwashed gamergeek shock
The corollary is gamer prefers fantasy gaming marketed at teenage boys to fantasy fiction aimed at teenage girlies shock

Talk about stating the obvious

George Spiggott wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:It doesn't make the nerdy part of me cry, it makes the reader side of me cry.

The ruining your nerdy vampire genre bit is just a bonus right?

I actually am not into vampires at all....never really was. I don't care about Stephenie Meyer screwing up the vampire mythos. They're ficitional creatures and she has just as much right to give her interpretation of them as anyone else. Do I like her interpretation? No, but that's not my bone of contention with her.

My problems and source of complaint with Twilight are its: a) horrible writing, b) blatant Mary Sue-ism, c) boring, bland characters that exist solely for the purposes of self insertion, and d) attempts to praise it as a great novel, when it really is not deserving of such a title.

That is why I hate Twilight with a passion. Not any attack on the vampire genre.....

ChrisWWII wrote:

George Spiggott wrote:

ChrisWWII wrote:It doesn't make the nerdy part of me cry, it makes the reader side of me cry.

The ruining your nerdy vampire genre bit is just a bonus right?

I actually am not into vampires at all....never really was. I don't care about Stephenie Meyer screwing up the vampire mythos. They're ficitional creatures and she has just as much right to give her interpretation of them as anyone else.

No, my problems and source of complaint with Twilight are its: a) horrible writing, b) blatant Mary Sue-ism, c) boring, bland characters that exist solely for the purposes of self insertion, and d) attempts to praise it as a great novel, when it really is not deserving of such a title.

That is why I hate Twilight with a passion. Not any attack on the vampire genre.....

Bella as a character is merely a placeholder.

ARRRRRRGH TWILIGHT MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are tousands of bette books! (In fact, pretty much ALL books are better than Twilight. Even the Halo books are way better. In almost every way, from plot, to actual well written ness.)


Also, wasn't there like 8 pages in one of the books that were blank to describe how Bella felt without Edward? Think of all of the trees that had to die because Stephanie Meyer lacked the descriptive ability to, uh, DESCRIBE!

GalacticDefender wrote:
Also, wasn't there like 8 pages in one of the books that were blank to describe how Bella felt without Edward? Think of all of the trees that had to die because Stephanie Meyer lacked the descriptive ability to, uh, DESCRIBE!

Please tell me this isn't true. Seriously...please?