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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 07:33:19
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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I found it really bland. It just didn't appeal to me in the slightest, and I would be hard pressed to describe a movie more dull. That's not to say that I honestly think it's the worst movie of all time or that I wouldn't watch it for an excuse to go out and/or encourage a snogging session, there's nothing inherently wrong with it. I'd guess that for the most part the anti-Twilight sensation is due to people hating popular stuff, or maybe it wrecks their image of a Vampire (who cares?). I don't see why it should be so popular, but it's just another movie. There's little need to be so offended or insecure around it. It only annoys me becuase its a boring film, more so than your average drama, and (after 3-4 movies/books) goes nowhere. As another poster had said, someone is just cashing in very sucessfully to a part of the public. So what?
SlaveToDorkness wrote:GalacticDefender wrote:
Also, wasn't there like 8 pages in one of the books that were blank to describe how Bella felt without Edward? Think of all of the trees that had to die because Stephanie Meyer lacked the descriptive ability to, uh, DESCRIBE!
Please tell me this isn't true. Seriously...please?
I think they had a single word on each of them (November, December ect) to represent her moping for longer than usual.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 07:41:46
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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I read all the Twighlight novels after being forced to go and see Twighlight New Moon, I laughed all the way through it, mainly due to the poor direction. My wife bet to read them so I did.
Take out the Vamp and Wolves references and you are left with a tale about a bout a needy and selfish teenage girl and the controlling object of her inflamed desires. All of which seems quite accurate.
Its not really fanwank either.
Do you know, If I could have, I would have created Twilight just so I could make mega bucks, sod 'real life' portrayals of vampires, I want cash!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 08:21:37
Subject: Re:Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Twilight cashes in on that bit in girls that likes soppy romance, and doesn't care when it's a pretty crappy standard, they just dig the fantasy so they ignore the bad stuff.
This is really no different to all of us in our approach the ultraviolence of GW properties.
Although, I've never read any prose as bad as this in any GW property;
Aro started to laugh. "Ha, ha, ha," he chuckled.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 08:28:59
Subject: Re:Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 09:06:28
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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I actually thought that blank page thing was kind of clever, at least as a way to show how the character felt empty. Was the reasoning behind why the character was empty good? No. Was the character full before? Also no. I just think it was a clever mechanic....
I'm pretty sure Stephenie Meyer in and of herself is not a bad author...I mean the background characters are interesting. It's just her focus on her boring, plain, wet dream induced central couple that makes these books and films suck. Seriously, watch the films, and note how Kristen Stewart suddenly becomes a decent actor when Edward is not on camera.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
707th Lubyan Aquila Banner Motor Rifle Regiment (6000 pts)
Battlefleet Tomania (2500 pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 09:58:45
Subject: Re:Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Furious Raptor
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I think ill add stephanie meyer to the thread
You find them attractive.....but...why?(read first post before posting!)
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/331075.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 10:31:13
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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She IS a bad fething author. Steve knows the score.
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 10:46:16
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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mattyrm wrote:She IS a bad fething author. Steve knows the score.
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 10:46:24
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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The only good thing about Twilight is that it secures vampires ansd werewolves in a modern setting back in th public domain, where it belongs.
When Underworld was released White Wolf took them through the courts claiming plagiarism, it took a while for the fethers to lose too. But lose they did.
it was a bit like when George Lucas sued the makers of (old) Battlestar Galactica for plagiarism for doing a space opera, it took a while for him to lose that one too.
I hate it when companies take folklore and try to exclusively own it. Games Workshop try it all the time with their fething trademarks to ideas not their own. They are not alone, however when the test cases are won the doors are opened for imagniation to be free again.
Admittedly this does men Meyer is free to write her drek, but we are free too. Vampires vs Werewolves TM, no thankyou.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 11:31:40
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Yes, good point.
Also, the child of Bella and the vampire guy will be a vampiel, which promises much shenanigans in the future, if Vampire Hunter D is any authority.
And I think it is!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 11:34:59
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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Renesmee will become a vampire hunter and help purge the world of the horrors that have spread on it.
My only fear is that Meyer will write it, and she's shown she much prefers throwing away, y'know, actually interesting politcal conflict and fighting in favor of...."OMGZ!!!1one!! My super uber special character (aka me) has some ubser special powers, and her baby is even MORE uberspeshul!!!11! In fanct they're soooo uber speshul they make all the bad vampires go and hide so I can have time with my ridiculously hot fantasy, wet dream boyfriend!!!!!!111one!!!!"
Seriously, if Meyer writes the sequels it won't be awesomeness of hunting down and destroying vampires. It'll be another crappy love story.
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
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Battlefleet Tomania (2500 pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 11:37:29
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Furious Raptor
North of Adelaide
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Emperors Faithful wrote:mattyrm wrote:She IS a bad fething author. Steve knows the score.

Love it. When she writes something that is better than IT then i will bow to her greatness. not that it will ever happen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 12:24:46
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Martial Arts Fiday
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feth, I'd settle for better than "Delores Claiborne" or "Rose Madder"... both of which were horrible, horrible books.
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Proverbs 18:2
"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
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Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 13:09:10
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well I lived through the experience last night. The scrap at the end was vaguely entertaining in a glance up from the laptop kind of way. Plus the Munster that gets all the visions is kind of hot.
Apolgies to the people who were offended by this thread's existence, but in the same way I don't have to stay in the lounge when the Mrs Flashman insists on watching Twilight, you don't have to read a thread with Twilight in the title
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 13:29:10
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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SlaveToDorkness wrote:feth, I'd settle for better than "Delores Claiborne" or "Rose Madder"... both of which were horrible, horrible books.
Rose Madder is a nice colour. Delores Claiborne, well, not so much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 13:47:14
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Flashman wrote:Well I lived through the experience last night. The scrap at the end was vaguely entertaining in a glance up from the laptop kind of way. Plus the Munster that gets all the visions is kind of hot. Apolgies to the people who were offended by this thread's existence, but in the same way I don't have to stay in the lounge when the Mrs Flashman insists on watching Twilight, you don't have to read a thread with Twilight in the title  Yea I got through it as well. It wasnt as bad as I hyped myself up for, but it was still rather terrible. I thought the battle at the end was neat, and a bonus, when they are giant wolves, I dont have to see shirtless guys everywhere. I also wondered, if all the GUYS are shirtless, why isnt the one female wolf shirtless? I was bummed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 13:55:21
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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Because teenage girls don't find topless women sexy, and that's the audience all the fanservice is directed at. >.<
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
707th Lubyan Aquila Banner Motor Rifle Regiment (6000 pts)
Battlefleet Tomania (2500 pts)
Visit my nation on Nation States!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 14:23:23
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Kilkrazy wrote: Vampire Hunter D
This thread is no place for bringing up quality entertainment.
Also, vampiel? I looked it up and found nothing. Is it a British version of dhampir?
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 15:04:33
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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When you're little, you think your parents know everything and can do anything. It's pretty disconcerting to find, when you grow up a bit, that they're just as consciously fallible as you. Amid the associated blend of emotion is anger and resentment at being naive, being young. It doesn't seem fair that being tricked is an inevitable part of life. A bit further on in life, you start to look around at the world and notice that these huge media phenomena are utter trash. If millions of people go wild over Harry Potter, it must be good right? (Many of the young people who hate Twilight so desperately were young enough to equate Harry Potter's success with some kind of merit and very few of them have reconsidered it.) But reading or watching any amount of Twilight makes it clear that you don't have to be talented to succeed, you don't have to work hard or have new ideas; there is no requirement of creativity or authenticity to achieve widespread acclaim in the English-speaking world. And that, for some gawky teenagers trying to come to grips with themselves, is one of the most irritating things imaginable. For others, about half of all others, its extremely comforting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 15:07:57
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy gak we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 15:09:54
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Solahma
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Under these circumstances, the only way forward is inward.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 15:17:22
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Manchu wrote:When you're little, you think your parents know everything and can do anything. It's pretty disconcerting to find, when you grow up a bit, that they're just as consciously fallible as you.
Its only later you realize how right they were and the nonsense you were spouting as a teenager really was nonsense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 15:27:17
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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That's exactly what I mean: As an adult, you think back to what you thought about the world as a teenager with embarassment--only to find that those ideas are of the same quality as those of many adults, including your parents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 15:54:37
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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ITT: Men and women enjoy different media.
And then, like, some existential gak on the last half of this page...
My ex wanted me to watch Twilight. I said I'd watch all the twilight movies (which were just 2 at the time) if she could sit through Blade Trinity and Underworld 2.
Guess who never had to watch Twilight?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 16:15:53
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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My wife has zero interest in Twilight but has watched the Blade or Underworld movies of her own accord.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 16:26:06
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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How Blade/Underworld-type tripe is better than Twilight is difficult to understand, at least for me--but then again, I think people hate Twilight because it's crap rather than because it's crap that they hate. Maybe people are more circular than I thought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 16:56:45
Subject: Twilight - The franchise where absolutely nothing happens
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Ahtman wrote:I see all this potential, and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables; slaves with white collars. Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy gak we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.
That movie is why Brad Pitt can do no wrong in my eyes(a few other movies maybe but that one fore sure). He could burn kittens and Id ignore it. But sadly Ive met people that have watched it and swear it changed their lives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 17:57:07
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Manchu wrote:How Blade/Underworld-type tripe is better than Twilight is difficult to understand, at least for me--but then again, I think people hate Twilight because it's crap rather than because it's crap that they hate. Maybe people are more circular than I thought.
Did you...watch... any of Twilight? It isn't 'hated on' becuase it is popular, or becuase it is hated, it is becuase it genuinely isn't very good on almost any level. The directing, acting, dialogue, pacing, and plot are fairly poor. Underworld is not the greatest film but it is better in almost every category. The first and second Blade movies are actually still fairly entertaining and well put together as well. None of this says that a person can't enjoy the movies. Mediocre is better than sub-par.
There is a difference between something being good and enjoying it. It is ok to like the Twilight movies, just don't turn them into something they aren't. There are movies I like that are not very good movies but they amuse me in one way or another.
Of course I can't speak to the books as I haven't read any of them in any capacity.
Now if your point is that people that are fanatical about any of them are silly, then yes, I agree.
Also: Kate Beckinsale > Kristen Stewart
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 18:00:44
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
University of St. Andrews
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The movies, at least, provide some pretty pictures in the background, and sometime the cinematography is actually quite good, like with the chase scene in Eclipse.
Like wise, the books have some decent parts, mainly the background for characters like Jasper, Alice and Rosalie. However, these few good points are completely buried beneath the tidal wave of crap in the main Bella + Edward plot.
When I care 10x more about the fate of a random background character than whether the main ones live, die or whatever, it's probably a bad thing for the novel..
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"If everything on Earth were rational, nothing would ever happen."
~Fyodor Dostoevsky
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
~Hanlon's Razor
707th Lubyan Aquila Banner Motor Rifle Regiment (6000 pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/08 18:06:29
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Ahtman wrote:My wife has zero interest in Twilight but has watched the Blade or Underworld movies of her own accord.
SWMBO liked Blade I and Underworld. She literally fell asleep when those were on the TV. She laughs and laughs at Twilight. To her Twillight is just the current incarnation of the old Knight/Princess mythos, just taken to a lame level. SHe also has seerious scorn for adult women/moms who rant about it. To her they have deeper issues...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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