Orlanth wrote:The only good thing about Twilight is that it secures vampires ansd werewolves in a modern setting back in th public domain, where it belongs.
When Underworld was released White Wolf took them through the courts claiming plagiarism, it took a while for the fethers to lose too. But lose they did.
It wasn't just the use of vampires and werewolves that led to the complaint, it was that there was some 60 points of similarity between the two, such as there being a war between vampires and werewolves, the approach of adding a 'dark' twist to the modern world, and so on, in addition to having a plot very similar to a book written as part of the White Wolf line of fiction.
It isn't like Lucas suing someone because he wrote a story about space wizards fighting an evil empire. It's a lot more like Lucas suing because someone wrote a story about a boy, brought up by his aunt and uncle as a farmer on a desert planet, who buys two robots who happen to be caught up in an intergalactic adventure, and when one of them heads off to complete its mission the boy is attacked by native raiders, prompting his rescue by a mysterious space wizard...
And they didn't lose the case, they settled out of court. This didn't change the ability of anyone to use elements of mythology in their stories. But it does mean you have to be extremely careful that your approach to the myths doesn't end up with a setting very close to someone elses, or that someone else hasn't written a nearly identical story.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ahtman wrote:Did you...watch... any of Twilight? It isn't 'hated on' becuase it is popular, or becuase it is hated, it is becuase it genuinely isn't very good on almost any level. The directing, acting, dialogue, pacing, and plot are fairly poor. Underworld is not the greatest film but it is better in almost every category. The first and second Blade movies are actually still fairly entertaining and well put together as well. None of this says that a person can't enjoy the movies. Mediocre is better than sub-par.
I agree that the second Blade movie was pretty well put together, I disagree on the first.
I think the point is that there’s plenty of crap out there as bad as the Twilight series, Dan Brown novels come to mind, as does most of the Star Wars books. Yet Twilight cops more nerd hatred than all of those combined.
I think this is in part due to Twilight being very successful right now, but more because it’s a romantic story rather than a violent one, and boy howdy don’t the nerds hate that.
There is a difference between something being good and enjoying it. It is ok to like the Twilight movies, just don't turn them into something they aren't. There are movies I like that are not very good movies but they amuse me in one way or another.
Yeah, definitely. I like lots of stuff that’s crap. Thing is, if someone says “I’m going to see the latest Twilight movie” you’ve really got no place to tell them they shouldn’t, we all enjoy crap of one sort or another, and there’s no harm in it.
If someone tries to claim Twilight is actually any good, then you can tell them they’re wrong. But the only people I’ve seen claiming Twilight is actually good are about 12 years old, and telling them they’re wrong just strikes me as a little mean spirited.
Also: Kate Beckinsale > Kristen Stewart
Damn straight. The biggest sin of the Underworld movies was they got a really hot girl to walk around in PVC all the time, then didn’t exploit her anywhere nearly enough. She should have been just walking around going’ oh, someone dropped a quarter, I’ll just bend over and pick it up’.
