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2010/12/23 19:11:13
Subject: Re:Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
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2010/12/24 20:13:34
Subject: Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
is it any different than hannah montanna? I have a 'joey' from the backstreet boys figure and a Paul stanley from Kiss figure because I collect twisted lame pop culture stuff. I kind of want to find me one of those now.
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2010/12/25 01:38:38
Subject: Re:Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
Okay, so I've heard the name EVERYWHERE, but being one who avoids radio/tv like the plague (and has no kids), I'd never actually heard the music. So I listened to half a song on youtube. It's the same oversynthisized crap that's been going on about the radio since I STOPPED listening to it:
Grab some slim kid who can hit key *most of the time*, write songs for him, pass him singing through Autotune, and completely screw him on royalties cause he won't know any better.. Hey, I know it's only Tuesday, but let's call it a week.
Next week, we'll shoot a music video of him doing something really "thought provoking" (inexpensive) and have him shot (though a soft lens) wearing a short sleeve shirt under a long sleeve shirt under a short sleeve shirt staring out at the ocean, or walking slowly through a public place as if in deep contemplation. Use the airbrush to clean it up afterwards.
I'm struggling to see where the story here is. They've been doing this, ya know, since Backstreet Boys, Hanson, hell, anyone remember New Kids on the Block? Even the Monkeys didn't know how to play their own instruments. You guys can rage at the teenie-bopper pop-stars all you want, but they're just one head on the hydra. They're just people being given the 'chance of a lifetime' by the guy in the expensive suit. If you REALLY want them to go away, then hate on the music industry. If what they're doing is that intolerable, boycott their music. Stop listening. Don't even download it. The following is a list of the labels associated with Island Records (Justin's record label):
* Al's Records (1996–1997)[citation needed]
* Aladdin Records (UK) (mid-1960s)[citation needed]
* Antilles Records (1972–1998)
* Apparent Records (2007–present)[citation needed]
* Apollo Recordings (2006–2007)
* Black Swan Records (UK) (1963–1965 and mid-1970s)
* Blue Mountain (UK imprint only, 1970s)
* Blue (1999–2001)
* Blunted (1993–1996)
* Defacto Records (2010–Present)[citation needed]
* Europa Recordings (2006–2007)
* Fallout Records (UK division)
* 4th & Broadway (1983–1998)
* Fruition (1996–1998)
* Gee Street Records (1990–1997)
* Great Jones (1988–1994)[citation needed]
* Hannibal (1981-unknown closing date, distributed under Antilles)
* Island Black Music (1995–1998)
* Island Jamaica (1995–1997)[citation needed]
* Island Jamaica Jazz (1996)[citation needed]
* Island Masters (1980s–1990s; reissues)
* Island Records Australia (2007–present)
* Island Reggae Greats (1985, compilation series; re-issued in several forms)
* Island Trading Company (US holding distributor under PolyGram; 1983–1989)[citation needed]
* Island Urban Music (2007)
* Island Visual Arts (1985)[citation needed]
* Jump Records
* Manga Entertainment (1991–1997, moved to Chris Blackwell's Palm Pictures, then was sold to Starz Media)
* Mango Records (1972–1997, US imprint only until 1993)
* Mango Street (1989–1992)
* MonarC Entertainment (2002, founded by Mariah Carey)
* Sense ("Sense of Island"; 1990–1991)
* Stiff Records (1984–1986 only)
* Stolen Transmission (-2007, still in business, but not part of Island anymore)[4]
* Sue Records (UK division)
* Surprise Records (mid-1970s)
* Trade 2 (1996–1997)[citation needed]
* Trojan Records (1967–1968 only)
* Tuff Gong (1990–present, founded by Bob Marley)
* Witchseason Productions (Joe Boyd)
Albatross wrote:I had the fortune not to have heard his music until a few weeks ago when I watched a group presentation on 'Justin Beiber's use of the internet as a means of engaging with his fanbase' at Uni.
He's not actually all that bad. I mean, it's crappy disposable pop, but the kid undoubtedly has natural talent. That said, I won't be purchasing his albums any time soon..
Automatically Appended Next Post: Justin Beiber must die along with Twilight! (Yes they have nothing to do with each other except that they are both things that stupid teenage girls drool over. But I tend to group them all together and it seems there is not much difference.)
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2010/12/25 03:49:30
Subject: Re:Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
You know they are making a blockbuster movie about him.....right?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sorry for the other post but,
There are two things that need to happen before I buy a Justine Beiber Album.
1.Learns how to Play Metal or Rock and Roll and not this R&B, Hip Hop POP or whatever this crap he plays now.
2.Stops selling out.
What makes me not like him is he is the biggest Sellout I have ever seen in a Musician. Even if by some...Evil chance I found (By Accident mind you.) a song I liked.
I would never even concider pirating it at all. Even a Super cool Techno version I wouldn't even touch with my Browser.
Action Figures, Cards, gaks, A Movie., glasses with his face, Posters.
There is only so far a song writer and performer can do before he becomes a sell out and a watered down nothing.
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Vasarto wrote:
What makes me not like him is he is the biggest Sellout I have ever seen in a Musician. Even if by some...Evil chance I found (By Accident mind you.) a song I liked.
I would never even concider pirating it at all. Even a Super cool Techno version I wouldn't even touch with my Browser.
That's the thing though, I'm not so sure he's even a musician. I don't think he ever existed prior to selling out. That is to say; he's a product. He has all the traits of a carefully moderated and fine tuned corporate selling piece. Just enough allure to make him compelling to the who won't stop to think about how their being handed fluff completely lacking in substance, and at the same time, completely and utterly harmless in the eyes of the parents who will just buy it for their kids who are clamoring for it. The music was just the initial medium for selling it. At this point, I realized that I just stopped referring to him as a person. People have personality and it's usually the flaws that make them interesting. Where are the flaws? If you can't spot them, then it's because of the fact that the entity you see in the media doesn't exist. I have no doubt there is a person named Justin who looks like what they're shoving down the teeny-bopper's throats, but I'm not sure anyone actually knows or even cares to know him.
I suppose my issue (and I don't hate the kid) is that it seems he hasn't earned almost any of this. We were sold that he is the most popular thing that ever happened and that he is awesome and people just bought it. There was no build up, there was just a sudden appearance, which goes with what daedalus's statement about him being less musician and more prepackaged product. He is the Jonas Brothers replacement, albeit less masculine. Like the Jonas Brothers his shelf life isn't terribly high. Most prefabricated teenage heart-throbs become Trivial Pursuit questions. Of course, he isn't being sold to us as I imagine the majority of us here aren't the intended audience for this brand of computer generated 'music'.
Also, I hate his hair. Probably a nice enough kid though.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2010/12/25 21:10:55
Subject: Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
Ahtman wrote:I suppose my issue (and I don't hate the kid) is that it seems he hasn't earned almost any of this. We were sold that he is the most popular thing that ever happened and that he is awesome and people just bought it. There was no build up, there was just a sudden appearance, which goes with what daedalus's statement about him being less musician and more prepackaged product. He is the Jonas Brothers replacement, albeit less masculine. Like the Jonas Brothers his shelf life isn't terribly high. Most prefabricated teenage heart-throbs become Trivial Pursuit questions. Of course, he isn't being sold to us as I imagine the majority of us here aren't the intended audience for this brand of computer generated 'music'.
Also, I hate his hair. Probably a nice enough kid though.
He got his start making youtube videos where he would sing and make music in his own time, that got popular which in turn got him noticed. He wasn't pre fabricated in the way that most teen sensations are, he just sorta fell into it.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad
2010/12/25 21:32:39
Subject: Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
ShumaGorath wrote:He got his start making youtube videos where he would sing and make music in his own time, that got popular which in turn got him noticed. He wasn't pre fabricated in the way that most teen sensations are, he just sorta fell into it.
I wasn't saying that he was formed in some void and just appeared, just that the way it was handled was that it was if he had always been around when his level of celebrity went from Youtube to GLOBALSTAROMG overnight. Of the people that show talent on youtube, I've seen much better than him, but the pop world isn't really concerned with the most talented or the most deserving. I don't mean that as a slam, but noting that that is what it is. He had the marketable 'x' factor of androgyny with just hint of bad boy while still being safe. he's Davey Jones without the Monkees.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2010/12/25 22:56:39
Subject: Re:Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
I would LOVE to be Justin Beiber. Think on it for a while.
Oh justin you're so cute and.... errr... well umm... hmm... you're so... err... well not that you're small... just that well... you aren't... how should I say this... I wouldn't feel anything...
Peter Wiggin wrote:
Guitardian wrote:is it any different than hannah montanna?
Yes, here is a picture of Miley Cyrus to make my point for me. Very different from THE BEIBER!!!!!
This makes me happy in ways I can't fully explain...
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2010/12/25 23:23:56
Subject: Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
Just wait till he pulls something off like miley cyrus then he wont be very like be little kids or older kids. and if that doesnt happen then just ignore him, even thought that irratating high pitched voice is hard to ignore...
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2010/12/27 16:27:09
Subject: Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
Granted I myself am NOT a fan of Beiber's music (not my cup of tea), but I find the nerd-rage in this thread somewhat forced.
The only thing more annoying than kiddie pop and boy bands are people that insist on telling you how much cooler they are for not liking it (which is what this thred can essentially be distilled down to).
Beiber was making videos of himself performing his songs (that he wrote and performed) on youtube BEFORE usher discovered him and decided to mentor him t stardom. It wasn't like he was picked out of a mall and told to lip sync to some music written by others. The kid was into music and was trying to make it happen himself on youtube. Too bad more people are,nt half as self-motivated and driven as this kid tbh.
I give the kid props for making a go of it, taking the opportunities presented to him,, and hopefully banking his fortune to set himself up for life. All of you would do the same if offered tons of money to do what you love. Hypocrit much? Denial much?
and yes the odds are his fifteen minutes are almost over, I'm sure he knows ths as well, but then again people said Justin Timberlake and mark Wahlberg were gonna be a flashes in the pan as well...
We get it: you are hip and happenign for not falling for commercial music. Want a cookie?
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CT GAMER wrote:Granted I myself am NOT a fan of Beiber's music (not my cup of tea), but I find the nerd-rage in this thread somewhat forced.
The only thing more annoying than kiddie pop and boy bands are people that insist on telling you how much cooler they are for not liking it (which is what this thred can essentially be distilled down to).
Actually the only thing more annoying than either of those things are the people who pretend they are cooler than others becuase they act like they have no opinion.
And as I stated before the only thing really wrong with this kid is his hair. It's just...just awful.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2010/12/27 19:35:41
Subject: Re:Beiber-Mania has officially gone too far...
CT GAMER wrote:Granted I myself am NOT a fan of Beiber's music (not my cup of tea), but I find the nerd-rage in this thread somewhat forced.
The only thing more annoying than kiddie pop and boy bands are people that insist on telling you how much cooler they are for not liking it (which is what this thred can essentially be distilled down to).
Actually the only thing more annoying than either of those things are the people who pretend they are cooler than others becuase they act like they have no opinion.
And as I stated before the only thing really wrong with this kid is his hair. It's just...just awful.
I think my opinion is in the first sentence you quoted above. The point however is that just becuse I don't like something doesnt make me feel the need to nerd-rage on the interwebz about it...
And btw I'd love for everyone to post current pics so we can compare and rate hairstyles. I know gamers are usually fashion icons, but I'm sure Beiber wouldn't be the only one in the "awful hair" camp...