What's your rating of the Ultramarines movie?

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**chromedog**

I'd expect the animation for DoW to be smoother.
The animation for DoW2 intro cost more than the ENTIRE budget of this fillum, and was done by a company that specialise in making CG cutscenes.

I'll see it when my clubmate gets his copy delivered (I'm not anywhere near enough a marine fanboy to want to buy my own copy - I'd rather buy more gaming stuff with the money.)

**Ouze**

chromedog wrote:I'll see it when my clubmate gets his copy delivered (I'm not anywhere near enough a marine fanboy to want to buy my own copy - I'd rather buy more gaming stuff with the money.)

Come now. Wanting to own the first 40k movie ever doesn't make you a marine fanboy.

**Wolfun**

Connor McKane wrote:

"This is your first time going into battle as Ultramarines."

Uhh... no. They are full battle brothers which meant they would have spent time as scouts, and seen alot of combat before becoming full battle brothers, so it was a total fail on that plot device.

I saw that in the trailer. I assumed it meant full Ultramarines, as in having completed their time as a Scout? Or is that not how it goes during the film?
If it is indeed the case, then Space Wolves woulda been better for it.

I'm hoping to get it for xmas, because the Trailer looks like it'll be a good movie to have for 40k fans, anyway. It seems to be getting a wide selection of reviews though, so I'll judge it for myself and give it a rating.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

Manchu wrote:

Spoiler:

There was only one prince.

Spoiler:

**MattRendar**

i liked it . for what it was it was it was good . they didn't sell the IP out . also you have to remember the fluff doesn't really work well , in a movie . movies need to have people dying and fast pace action . the fluff doesn't really make sense at all . its cool but it doesn't make sense . for instance the new marines in the movie are complaining about not seeing any action . sure ...you don't think the've seen enough action proving them selves as scouts in the chapter . before becoming a full fledge marine ? put you cant explain everything like that in an hour and ten min movie . over all i liked it more pros then cons its they first hopefully in many . remember books and movies are two differnt things .

**WraithgodSchmity**

I thought that the movie was actually very good. It was a whole lot better than I had expected. The graphics were pretty good and the plot was pretty stable in my opinion. I hope they come out with another movie soon!

**ChocolateGork**

It was good. Not fantastic but it was what i expected.

**Newt-Of-Death**

Doesnt seem like too many people saw the movie!

Put it this way, it wasnt in the cinema, and I just know its going to be to naf and crap to buy on dvd, so unless I watch it illegally, ill not see it.

**Mordheimer**

I saw the movie last night... just like the fan-made movie DAMNATUS... worth to watch one, then forget forever. The more you think about it, the worse it gets. I gave it 1- 1/2 star. The lack of attention to details was pathetic. Watch it once... wish for something better. If this is GW's trend to make this movies, they better stop. If their intention is to improve on this giant turd... then it will be great! Bring in THE WAR.

Spoiler:

WHAT?!?! Watch it... waste 2 hours of your existence.

**Ma55ter_fett**

It’s worth watching once or twice.

2 1/2 stars, the animation was what the trailers had led me to expect it got the job done but failed to wow me, the story was slightly goofy but I was not expecting anything else, the voice acting was very good and there was no dialogue that made me cringe.

**Panic**

yeah,
Bought it, watched it, loved it.

was it the best movie ever made, No.

was it 40k, hell yeah! I want more.

Panic...

**Whatever1**

1/2 star from me. Ultramarines is a bad movie,point blank. The script is awful,and has numerous glaring plot holes. The Ultramarines are in no way represented as the Angels of Death they are suppossed to be. The animation is subpar. I refuse to curb that rating up just because I like the property it's based on and I have lowered expectations because of a small budget. This movie is nowhere even close to being as good as the asking price for it is. Ultramarines is pretty much the animated equivalent of Uwe Boll getting the rights to do a 40k movie. The result is godawful,but some people will buy and/or defend it because they enjoy the property the movie is based on.

**ShadowAngel159**

Just finished watching it. In my opinion, I give it a three star rating.

Everything about it was about average. Animation, script, acting, all about average. But what can you expect from a small budget?

I admit, the movie did take the fluff and rip it in two in MANY places. However, people have to realize that it's their first 40k movie. Also, movies never get it 100% right with the books. Sometimes they completely kill the books, sometimes they follow it almost spot on. Ultramarines is no different.

For a first 40k movie attempt, it was a good try. It kept me entertained, and I was happy that they finally made the movie. Can there be improvements? Heck yes. But was it entertaining? Yes.

Three stars from me for a decent first attempt. Hopefully, if and when they make the next 40k movie, they will have a larger budget and follow the fluff more.

We march for Macragge! And we shall know no fear!

**Cantus**

Just finished watching.

I'm appalled that people are giving it "half a star" and saying it was utter crap. On the budget they had, I actually thought the graphics were great- if people were expecting DOW intro/avatar graphics they need to shake themselves awake. For the budget they had and the narrow audience they were catering to I think it was excellent. There were only a couple moments that it really took me out of the feel of it- I thought it was just fine and didn't subtract at all from the movie. Naturally if it were better the whole movie would be better, but I don't think it was too bad. The voice acting made up for it I think. THAT could have ruined it.

The plot was fine I thought- although there were a LOT of inconsistencies and I can understand where people get upset by that.

Spoiler:

However, as for

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All together though I think we have to keep in mind this was just the first try. For the budget and without any precedent, I thought it was excellent. It wasn't HARDCORE STRICT TO THE CANON, but there's already a lot of conflicting fluff. That's no excuse, but I feel like I can look past it for the first movie. All in all, a lot the problems that were there (small character list, the way fights were) I felt like could be explained by a low budget or a need to keep the action up.
That being said, they just better get it right next time

For a first try I started to give it a 3, but... the chaplain's AWESOME helm bumped it up to 3.5 / 4 stars

**OoieGoie**

Well, if you bought a copy, hopefully you will be part of many that will help them make another and better movie next time eh?

eh?

Be positive. And watch out with those spoilers. Now I know who (what) the big evil boss is.

**Manchu**

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
Manchu wrote:

Spoiler:

There was only one prince.

Spoiler:

The one the captain fights then the one he becomes was what I was referring to.

Spoiler:

**ChocolateGork**

Manchu wrote:
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
Manchu wrote:

Spoiler:

There was only one prince.

Spoiler:

The one the captain fights then the one he becomes was what I was referring to.

Spoiler:

I think there is only one DP; it kills the Captain and then assumes his form. It wants to do the same to Proteus, as well.

I concur

**Ouze**

OoieGoie wrote:Well, if you bought a copy, hopefully you will be part of many that will help them make another and better movie next time eh?

eh?

Be positive. And watch out with those spoilers. Now I know who (what) the big evil boss is.

There should never have been a thread asking for reviews in the first place that didn't allow for spoilers. It's nearly impossible to give a meaningful review without spoilers for any movie. I know if I want to see a movie, I go to rotten tomatoes first and look at the score. If I look at the reviews, I know perfectly well there will likely be plot spoilers in there.

I think the onus is solely on the reader to avoid threads of movie reviews if they don't want to know what the plot is about.

**Lemmingspawn**

I give it somewhere between 1.5 and 2 stars - My quibbles are:

1. The dialogue was decidedly woeful in spots and needed a much better thought out set of lines. I couldn't get over some of the lame lines in it, seriously.

2. The voice acting, combined with some of the worst lines I have heard, was woeful. Terrence Stamp did a second rate job at best, Sean Pertwee was ok and a bit more animated and John Hurt seemed only half interested.

3. Some of the graphic presentations were rushed - check when the Speeder debarks, it's sensor comes out of the terrain!

4. The storyline was almost the same as anything else I've seen done in 40k with the same protagonists, the same enemies and the same sequence of events. The only thing really new was the role of the Daemon in the movie.

5. The music was dreary, half appropriate and did not help the atmosphere of the movie. If the soundtrack was more interesting then perhaps this would have lifted the overall effect.

I don't really care about the points people make about the fluff - because to be honest, if they use what they know and what they use to good effect, as far as I am concerned, as long as you are keeping close to the source then fine! But if you aren't going to make a full effort at least in the story, dialogue and voice acting, then you've lost from the beginning.

Out of all my critique of this movie, I think the one thing that would have saved it is if the voice acting was a done with a bit more gusto and the lines were reworked. These would have brought it up to a 2.5-3 for me. I am still haunted by the half-arsed flippant manner in which Stamp mutters his line at the beginning; "You must be steel, you must be doom."

**ChocolateGork**

Lemmingspawn wrote:I give it somewhere between 1.5 and 2 stars - My quibbles are:

1. The dialogue was decidedly woeful in spots and needed a much better thought out set of lines. I couldn't get over some of the lame lines in it, seriously.

2. The voice acting, combined with some of the worst lines I have heard, was woeful. Terrence Stamp did a second rate job at best, Sean Pertwee was ok and a bit more animated and John Hurt seemed only half interested.

3. Some of the graphic presentations were rushed - check when the Speeder debarks, it's sensor comes out of the terrain!

4. The storyline was almost the same as anything else I've seen done in 40k with the same protagonists, the same enemies and the same sequence of events. The only thing really new was the role of the Daemon in the movie.

5. The music was dreary, half appropriate and did not help the atmosphere of the movie. If the soundtrack was more interesting then perhaps this would have lifted the overall effect.

I don't really care about the points people make about the fluff - because to be honest, if they use what they know and what they use to good effect, as far as I am concerned, as long as you are keeping close to the source then fine! But if you aren't going to make a full effort at least in the story, dialogue and voice acting, then you've lost from the beginning.

Out of all my critique of this movie, I think the one thing that would have saved it is if the voice acting was a done with a bit more gusto and the lines were reworked. These would have brought it up to a 2.5-3 for me. I am still haunted by the half-arsed flippant manner in which Stamp mutters his line at the beginning; "You must be steel, you must be doom."

You talk as if you expect the marines to shout and scream all the time.

Why?

They are battle hardened space marines that know no fear (Although they just control it very well).

It makes perfect sense for them to talk slowly and calmly. It makes sense they could get the message across to the lower ranked marines without yelling.

**Lemmingspawn**

No, that's not what I expect. But I do expect something a bit more emotive or expressive. Yes I understand what you are getting at but listen to an army drill sergeant? No matter how hardened a veteran they are, they don't exactly drawl expressionlessly at their charges like Mr Stamp has here.

Watch Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge, that is a great example.

**ChocolateGork**

But aren't they indoctrinated to very strictly follow a quite repressive religion and as space marines of the ultramarine chapter they are expected to remove all unnecessary emotion as to make them more effective in war. I realize this inst the case with all chapters (i.e space wolfs) but aren't the ultramarines one of the strictest followers of the codex astartes?

Although i agree the voice acting was a bit disenheartened at times.

**BaronIveagh**

I finally saw it. I was... underwhelmed. The plot was somewhat predictable, and, as a trained CGI artist, I had a hard time not noticing the poor quality of the animation.

**nerdfest09**

Watched it this morning and held my judgement until I'd watched it, and I was pleasantly suprised, again i'll go over old ground and say the animation wasn't the best but i only found it was a bit stilted and didn't flow well only with the actual marines and facial close ups, i really enjoyed the actual cinematics and background textures, the feel of the battle barge and the scenes inside the ship and the outposts on the planet, I thought thay were good and helped pull the movie through some of the poorer animation, I also quite liked the graphic nature of the battle scenes, at least they didn't pg a movie that needs to feel that gritty, i wasn't absolutely blown away by it as a whole but as a follower of GW for 15 years i'm glad to actually see something come to fruition, if they do another one i'll be only too happy to see them get better and better as they progress so i'll be buying a copy to help them give us what we want.

**Jolrael**

IMHO:

Animation was so-so, even a little better than I have expected after seeing the trailers. Money is money, dont have it? Cant use it...

Script was so-so. You cannot expect deep story in 80 minutes, also its NOT a documentary sequel so I do really wonder which films biggest fluff whiners here like anyway.... Scooby - Doo?

Overall solid, but it seems everyone just cant get over few moments in the film. I for example really hated little nuclear explosion caused by flamer chamber, indestructible wooden planks and :pew: :pew: pew: headshotheadshotheadshotIneverrunofamunition bolt pistol.

And yes lack of melee action from Chaplain was saddening - I gues they did not want to animate effect of power weapons on their armour?

Also argument that "throw me chainsword sux" is backed by what? Because gamewise fork and chainsword are both close-combat weapons with same effectivity does not mean that chainsword itself isnt scary dangerous weapon certainly better than their sucky shortswords of butter slaying. Also if you noticed the details captain certainly knew how to use it. Amount of blood ( if we can call it like that) from daemon after captain attack was not comparable with few drops caused by Proteus. If the daemon was slaaneshi and Proteus was carrying combat-knife combat would went propably something like this: "Oh lower, lower scratch me LOWER, yeees THATS MY E-ZONE." At least that would bring few more chaos lines into the film...

And finally how do you know Proteus was captain in the end? And how do you know how much time did pass? I do not remember seeing iron halo on his armour so he could pretty much be squad sergeant or just some veteran lecturing "rookies". And if someone will tell me that he cant be sergeant cuz his buddy is a veteran too and all regular marines in a squad have 1 base attack so it would not make any sense should set his brain off the sleep mode....

3/5 stars at best. Certainly worth watching for anyone into the hobby,just dont expect much. It will "fill" 80 minutes of your time, nothing more...

Sadly not enough to interest anyone oustide into the hobby.

**Lemmingspawn**

ChocolateGork wrote:But aren't they indoctrinated to very strictly follow a quite repressive religion and as space marines of the ultramarine chapter they are expected to remove all unnecessary emotion as to make them more effective in war. I realize this inst the case with all chapters (i.e space wolfs) but aren't the ultramarines one of the strictest followers of the codex astartes?

Although i agree the voice acting was a bit disenheartened at times.

True, but I still consider that they are extremely passionate about their cause. A warrior is not a stalwart warrior without believing passionately and fervently that theirs is the righteous path. Mr Stamp (just to pick on him again) gives it a "Ho-Hum" feel, not a "Quiet, yet fervent confidence in the efficacy of our penultimate status as the best warriors on offer". Instead of the flowing blur of boredom he portrays, he could have given more of a firm, clipped arrogance to the piece. And Sean Pertwee would, honestly, have been better suited to providing the voice of an arrogant guardsman or perhaps mutant of some kind. I guess you could almost say that some of the voice castings were done a bit hurriedly instead of really placing the right person in each role. But that does come down to budget as well.

Maybe they should've gotten Samuel L Jackson - "You must be steeeeeeel... You. Must. Be. DOOM MUTHA*****! AND DON'T YOU FORGET IT, YO!" (Bloodshot deathstare into helmet) "Do we have a problem, soldier?" "SIR NO SIR"

**Thaanos**

Where's the 5th star? I've never seen a scale out of four stars befor....

**Hits_the_spot**

Just watched it, unfortunately it is truly poor. Poor script, bad story, even worse graphics. Not just poor technical graphical quality, but also very unimaginative. Honestly feel that it should not have been released. I have read people commenting that it should be approched with the budget in mind, and that would be fine and acceptable, IF the story and writing were up to scratch, but its full of unoriginal clichés.

All in all, 3 out of 10 or 1 out of 4

**Deadshane1**

Bad script, terrible acting, worthless graphics, no plot....typical complaints of one who really doesn't have a solid opinion of the movie and is simply trying to be a hater.

I cannot see how the script/plot was bad...it was a very lackluster script. Cliche. Plot was predictable.

Terrible acting? REALLY? More like Marines are pretty much a 2 dimensional characters in and of themselves. They fight, and yell "for the emperor" a lot. Not really much room for an actor to spread their wings there...especially in a movie that is CG and doesnt allow for facial expression and body language from the actor. If you say terrible acting, then I say you dont know what constitutes acting in the least.

Worthless graphics. State of the art? No. Passable to tell a story for fanboi's? Yes. CG is expensive...friggin expensive. Also, this movie isnt meant for the mainstream. What that means is that the money being made BACK is going to be limited to begin with.

Stop being a hater just for the sake of bashing the movie. If you want to critique the movie and actually be taken seriously, come up with solid complaints...not easy ones.

Here's the REAL story.

If "Ultramarines" was a poor movie, it was still a REALLY GOOD cartoon.

It's plot may have been cliche, the graphics may have been lower than the industries best, but the makers of "Ultramarines" truly tried to give out a true "fan service" in the form of a solid cartoon that does a decent job of maintaining the feel of a 40k adventure w/o dumbing it down for the kiddies and without too much history to dull it down and pull away from the story in order to cater to those that have no idea what 40k is.

Before you bash this film, think of what it COULD HAVE been. "Let's make sure we 'dumb it down' for the kids!" or "We need to include tons of backstory so everything is explained to 40k noobs." Let your imagination run wild on those two points and think about how poor this movie could have truly been.

The fact of the matter is that Codex has supplied us with a movie that has been waited for since the early '80's by some of us 40k fans. They did a great job of NOT ruining it for us. There are TONS of bad movies out there for fans of games or other toy products, Transformers (true transformers fans HATE this movie), Dungeons and Dragons, the Resident Equal Sequels, Double Dragon, GI Joe, the list goes on. How about simply BAD films out there with much LARGER wallets backing them? Crow 4, Batman and Robin, Highlander 2, Yogi Bear in 3d for Crissakes.

Ultramarines is decent....that alone makes it something EXTREMELY special. I would've been VERY upset if it didnt maintain a certain level of violence/horror and misrepresented the Marines. I'm extremely glad that they didnt tell the story for people that know nothing or dont care about 40k in the least at the expense of those that do.

If you know/love 40k...you NEED to see this film, at least once or twice. It gives a good feel of the 40k universe and is pretty good for what it is. What it is, is a "fan service". Stop trying to make it out to be more than that...it isnt. This is for you, the 40k fan and noone else. Be glad.

...or maybe you'd be happier with a 40k version of Battlefield Earth?

**ChocolateGork**

W40k and pretty much every story in it is one massive cliche.