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Kanluwen wrote:I'm pretty sure the problem with the Nazca Lines isn't how they were made, but why they were made. The big fingerpointing bit has always been "Clearly, they were made so someone out there could see it from above!"

I believe the current understanding is that the shapes were walked/paraded around/over -- akin to something like the prayer labyrinths elsewhere in the world -- in a ceremonial fashion.

So.. it was for the Gods in the sky above....
.. which, of course, takes us back to the initial premise perhaps .

Long have I felt the need to feel the clammy hand of the sky gods.

This demonstrably false claim is definitive proof of alien visitation.

I saw a UFO once.

Albatross wrote:I saw a UFO once.

Was is a big one?

snurl wrote:

Albatross wrote:I saw a UFO once.

Was is a big one?

No. It was a fairly small white dot in the sky, on a clear sunny day. It moved very strangely, alternately darting across the sky in perfectly straight lines at very high speed, and hovering motionless. Then it disappeared.


Very strange.

Albatross wrote:

snurl wrote:

Albatross wrote:I saw a UFO once.

Was is a big one?

No. It was a fairly small white dot in the sky, on a clear sunny day. It moved very strangely, alternately darting across the sky in perfectly straight lines at very high speed, and hovering motionless. Then it disappeared.


Very strange.

I never get to see anything like that. There was an incedent in the news near my area where several people saw something similar to what you describe, but I missed the whole thing.

GalacticDefender wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Tri wrote:Doesn't get round the fact there are 200-400 billion stars to check ... are we interesting enough to bother visiting?

If they seeded the earth with our single-celled ancestors (see directed panspermia) and are monitoring our development, yes. Yes we are.

The whole argument of "Are we interesting enough to visit" seems pretty stupid. WHat if an extraterrestrial race wants to explore things as we do? What if they have the same thirst for knowledge? And who is to say that it wouldn't be first contact with another species for them too? If we found an alien civilization somehow, we would think it was interesting enough to visit, even if the alien species lived on a planet with no resources whatsoever and were ammonia based.

No my point was time even with instantaneous travel spending as little as 5 minutes in a 0.0001% of milky way solar systems would take 3 years.

Maybe with mass use of probes you could identify Interesting systems to look in but then you also have to sift through the information, and does the computer know what a humanoid life for looks like?

Maybe they have an App for that?

Albatross wrote:

snurl wrote:

Albatross wrote:I saw a UFO once.

Was is a big one?

No. It was a fairly small white dot in the sky, on a clear sunny day. It moved very strangely, alternately darting across the sky in perfectly straight lines at very high speed, and hovering motionless. Then it disappeared.


Very strange.

I saw something a few summers ago. It was around 11pm and the sky was completely clear, but there was this one large bright orb in the distance. It moved slowly to the left and I assumed it was a plane, but when I went back to check, it had backtracked and gone further to the right. It then hovered in place for about 10 minutes and I got bored. I poked my head around the curtains about 5 minutes later and it had gone, just vanished. It was a bloody bright light too, so hard to miss when you can see faint stars around where it was (which also destroys the possibility of cloud cover).

As for general alien existance... yeah, they probably do exist. Who knows, they might be implanting our brains with theories about our very creation in order to forge a conflict and in turn, allow us to wipe ourselves out. Or they could be stuck billions of light years away, humming and twiddling their appendages.

snurl wrote:Maybe they think we look sexy?

Close, but not exactly...

My friend and I postulated that aliens had been using humanity as some kind of video game, with users taking control of people and armies throughout history. We even went so far as to sketch out a couple of stories set when the ancient machines which allowed alien “players” to interface with and control people started to break down, leading to some humans to get strange compulsions to track down visions and the cause of blank spots in their memories etc, and visit ancient monuments and temples hidden all over the world and “discover” the aliens inside.

sebster wrote:von Daniken is pretty wildly acknowledged as a fraud. In Chariot of the Gods he claims there is ancient pottery showing ufos, but this pottery was revealed to have been made very recently, and when the potter was tracked down it was revealed he did this on commission from von Daniken. There is an iron pillar in India that von Daniken claimed doesn't rust, but it's since been shown it does rust and is perfectly normal - von Daniken admitted this decades ago, but never took it out of reprints of Chariots of the Gods. He claimed to have travelled through artificial underground tunnels in South America, but the man he claimed guided him through stated that this never happened.

It's all make believe. He's a charlatan.

I admit, the man screwed up on several occasions, but that doesn't make all of his research made up. That's the thing though, you can write a thousand good theories, but if you fudge on some evidence it feths up the whole thing. Big mistake, but I try to look past all the crap he screwed up.

He sure as hell didn't make up the Book of Enoch you know?

Ahh, gone to sleep and theres actually some good discussion going on, how nice.


von Daniken - As said, sure he screwed up(mainly in getting caught amiright?) but again, not everything he says is BS, the man does make some good points on things. I find that in incredibly old artwork some things he points out to be a bit.....chin scratching. There are flying objects in some. Some actually look like, well space ships for lack of a better word, others do look like guys in chariots. But you have to realize that that long ago, how could they describe a flying thing in the sky?

Not to get all anti holy (as Im actually rather religious at times) but it does make a bit more sense when ancient civilizations write about how their "sky gods" or "star children" came from the skies and lived among them. Is it made up for religious reasons? Well sure it can be, saying it isnt would be silly. But it still makes you wonder, not only why did they say that, but also, where they got the idea about people from the sky?

Again, I dont fully buy into this whole theory, but it does make me wonder at times. And yes, the guy with the crazy hair people keep posting, thats who I was talking about. He just makes me laugh. HEY IM GOINZ ON DA TVZ! MAKE MA HAIRZ THE AWESOMEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too funny

Lord Scythican wrote:

sebster wrote:von Daniken is pretty wildly acknowledged as a fraud. In Chariot of the Gods he claims there is ancient pottery showing ufos, but this pottery was revealed to have been made very recently, and when the potter was tracked down it was revealed he did this on commission from von Daniken. There is an iron pillar in India that von Daniken claimed doesn't rust, but it's since been shown it does rust and is perfectly normal - von Daniken admitted this decades ago, but never took it out of reprints of Chariots of the Gods. He claimed to have travelled through artificial underground tunnels in South America, but the man he claimed guided him through stated that this never happened.

It's all make believe. He's a charlatan.

I admit, the man screwed up on several occasions, but that doesn't make all of his research made up. That's the thing though, you can write a thousand good theories, but if you fudge on some evidence it feths up the whole thing. Big mistake, but I try to look past all the crap he screwed up.

He sure as hell didn't make up the Book of Enoch you know?

I think it's less of a case of, "He faked a few things, but most of his research is legitimate," and more of a case of, "When viewed in the right context, some of his wildly extrapolated conclusions can be seen as remotely plausible, but the overwhelming multitude of faked evidence obliterates any shred of credibility he may have had."

SilverMK2 wrote:My friend and I postulated that aliens had been using humanity as some kind of video game, with users taking control of people and armies throughout history. We even went so far as to sketch out a couple of stories set when the ancient machines which allowed alien “players” to interface with and control people started to break down, leading to some humans to get strange compulsions to track down visions and the cause of blank spots in their memories etc, and visit ancient monuments and temples hidden all over the world and “discover” the aliens inside.

'Dude! I can't believe they totally nerfed the British Empire in 5th ed!'

'Yeah, but did you check out USA? 'Um... *broken* much?'

Yeah, well, typical 'Human Creep'...'

'Ha! Yeah, can't wait for the new Codex: People's Republic of China to come out.... if it ever does, that is. I hear they're getting aircraft carriers....'

'SALT!! That's just wishlisting!'




I could do that forever....

.... and still no F.A.Q.

How many editions have we been waiting for the "meaning of life" problem to be answered ?

Lazy bastards.

Not to mention the whole god debacle ...Still nice to get some old fluff back; I thought that the crusades were long gone, master-stroke getting the Americans to do it this time.

Yes.

There are several problems with Von Daniken.

1. A lot of his evidence was faked.
2. A few of the stuff that wasn't is tenuous.
3. The best things, such as the Nazca lines, turn out not to be impossible to do.

The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

You can take Occam's razor to any one of their theories and have a field day.

rubiksnoob wrote:You can take Occam's razor to any one of their theories and have a field day.

And if you leave it under a pyramid it won't go blunt either !

rubiksnoob wrote:You can take Occam's razor to any one of their theories and have a field day.

Cast on a 20, 10 Attacks with a Strength of 8 thanks to my Ld on your- Oh, wrong guy.

reds8n wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:You can take Occam's razor to any one of their theories and have a field day.

And if you leave it under a pyramid it won't go blunt either !

It never dulls because it was fabricated on another planet and brought to earth by beings from another world!

IT'S THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION.

KingCracker wrote:The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

What about the pyramids and how they made light deep inside them? The whole reflecting mirror trick from The Mummy was proved to not really work and there wasn't enough air inside to do torches, (lack of soot as well). I wonder if they had the light sources that Ancient Aliens referred too:

Lord Scythican wrote:

KingCracker wrote:The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

What about the pyramids and how they made light deep inside them? The whole reflecting mirror trick from The Mummy was proved to not really work and there wasn't enough air inside to do torches, (lack of soot as well). I wonder if they had the light sources that Ancient Aliens referred too:

Yes, the ancient Egyptians had electricity. Of course! It makes so much sense!

rubiksnoob wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:

KingCracker wrote:The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

What about the pyramids and how they made light deep inside them? The whole reflecting mirror trick from The Mummy was proved to not really work and there wasn't enough air inside to do torches, (lack of soot as well). I wonder if they had the light sources that Ancient Aliens referred too:

Yes, the ancient Egyptians had electricity. Of course! It makes so much sense!

Now you are just being an ass. I guess you are in the school of thought that it is a picture of a lotus flower's aroma? All I am saying is they had to light their hallways somehow and mirrors and torches are not good enough for an explanation. Instead of being an ass, wouldn't it be more productive to speculate on the theory and perhaps put forth some alternatives? Here I will help you out: Airducts.

That thing looks like an aubergine, or a giant wang. Knowing the Pharoahs as I do, I'm betting on the second option.

I wonder if it would have been possible for the chambers inside the pyramids to have been painted before they put the roof on?

Kilkrazy wrote:That thing looks like an aubergine, or a giant wang. Knowing the Pharoahs as I do, I'm betting on the second option.

I wonder if it would have been possible for the chambers inside the pyramids to have been painted before they put the roof on?

That sounds plausible as well. Maybe the painted each floor first before the put up the next level. I know I do it with citadel miniatures all the time.

Lord Scythican wrote:

rubiksnoob wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:

KingCracker wrote:The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

What about the pyramids and how they made light deep inside them? The whole reflecting mirror trick from The Mummy was proved to not really work and there wasn't enough air inside to do torches, (lack of soot as well). I wonder if they had the light sources that Ancient Aliens referred too:

Yes, the ancient Egyptians had electricity. Of course! It makes so much sense!

Now you are just being an ass. I guess you are in the school of thought that it is a picture of a lotus flower's aroma? All I am saying is they had to light their hallways somehow and mirrors and torches are not good enough for an explanation. Instead of being an ass, wouldn't it be more productive to speculate on the theory and perhaps put forth some alternatives? Here I will help you out: Airducts.

Okay, if they used electricity to light the passages in the pyramids, where is the evidence? Wires, cables, all the different components neccessary for creating and utilizing electrical lighting; shouldn't there be some of it still lying around? And what about making these things?
Wouldn't there be mention somewhere of the craftsmen who created these things? Something like this would have had a major impact on ancient Egyptian culture.
In the myriad accounts by ancient historians of Egyptian culture and society, why is there no mention of electricity? The Egyptians themselves made no reference to it. So where is the evidence for this wild claim?