Ancient Aliens, do you believe? *spooky voice*

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**Lord Scythican**

I am not saying they had electricity. I am saying it is fun to speculate that there could be a possibility due to the fact that the torches and mirror trick wouldn't work. You have to remember anyone who seriously believes that they had electricity can say the aliens took the components and left earth. Heck ancient alien theorists use this explanation because they believe the aliens did this on purpose so we would be scratching are heads and pondering how this is all possible. This is what is supposed to lead us to the theory that aliens did it.

I am not saying I believe any of this. To me it is an entertaining show and I find it fun to speculate these theories. A lot of them have just as much merit as Christianity for crying out loud.

I am the biggest skeptic there is, but even you have to agree there isn't much else on TV worth watching, (besides Dexter of course).

**Tri**

takes 25-30 years to build ... plenty of time to do some painting

Also they used a tunnel running round the outside to get the stuff from the bottom to the top; each straight had a simple winch.

**rubiksnoob**

Lord Scythican wrote:there isn't much else on TV worth watching, (besides Dexter of course).

Ehh, you have a point there. Although the only thing I 've really watched on tv in ages is Lie to Me.

**Lord Scythican**

Tri wrote:takes 25-30 years to build ... plenty of time to do some painting

Also they used a tunnel running round the outside to get the stuff from the bottom to the top; each straight had a simple winch.

Okay I don't feel like finding the info, but I have heard plenty of times that building a pyramid in 20-25 years is BS. That's like 2102 1/2 ton blocks a day! But there is plenty of researchers who say this is ok!

Regardless, 25-30 years is still a long time...

rubiksnoob wrote:
Lord Scythican wrote:there isn't much else on TV worth watching, (besides Dexter of course).

Ehh, you have a point there. Although the only thing I 've really watched on tv in ages is Lie to Me.

That is pretty sad that "nothing else on TV" is the best part of my arguement isn't it?

I think I am going to start a topic on TV shows to watch. I need some new ones.

**Yak9UT**

I could not confirm if Aliens have ever landed on Earth. But thier have been some strange things that have been found in acient ruins such as pictures carved in stone tablets showing some unidentified objects and some rather odd tombs in eygpt. France and New Zealand have also realesed thier UFO files meaning that some Goverment agencies were investigating UFOs. But as I said I cant say that proves that aliens have visited Earth.

**Kilkrazy**

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_construction_techniques

While no-one has been able to prove a single definite construction method, there are various methods which would work, and which could have been combined in real life.

Modern experiments have shown that moving and lifting stones of that size, that fast, was certainly possible with ancient materials and techniques.

**chaos0xomega**

rubiksnoob wrote:
Lord Scythican wrote:
KingCracker wrote:The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

What about the pyramids and how they made light deep inside them? The whole reflecting mirror trick from The Mummy was proved to not really work and there wasn't enough air inside to do torches, (lack of soot as well). I wonder if they had the light sources that Ancient Aliens referred too:

Yes, the ancient Egyptians had electricity. Of course! It makes so much sense!

Ever hear of the Baghdad Battery? Don't be an ass.

Okay I don't feel like finding the info, but I have heard plenty of times that building a pyramid in 20-25 years is BS. That's like 2102 1/2 ton blocks a day! But there is plenty of researchers who say this is ok!

I seem to recall someone doing the calculations on this, and (assuming they did it correctly) the result was that the construction of the pyramids would have been impossible in that timeframe, unless the entire population of Egypt was put to labor constructing them.

**rubiksnoob**

Lord Scythican wrote:
Tri wrote:takes 25-30 years to build ... plenty of time to do some painting

Also they used a tunnel running round the outside to get the stuff from the bottom to the top; each straight had a simple winch.

Okay I don't feel like finding the info, but I have heard plenty of times that building a pyramid in 20-25 years is BS. That's like 2102 1/2 ton blocks a day! But there is plenty of researchers who say this is ok!

Regardless, 25-30 years is still a long time...

rubiksnoob wrote:
Lord Scythican wrote:there isn't much else on TV worth watching, (besides Dexter of course).

Ehh, you have a point there. Although the only thing I 've really watched on tv in ages is Lie to Me.

That is pretty sad that "nothing else on TV" is the best part of my arguement isn't it?

I think I am going to start a topic on TV shows to watch. I need some new ones.

Haha, no I think I agreed with what you said fo rthe most part.

I was just too lazy to respond to the rest.

**Tri**

If you don't want to watch it all skip to part 3

**Lord Scythican**

rubiksnoob wrote:Haha, no I think I agreed with what you said fo rthe most part. I was just too lazy to respond to the rest.

Well thats good. Sorry for calling you an ass btw. You seem keen on speculating now.

@Tri: Everything was blocked at my workplace. I will try and respond to it later.

Also on the subject of how the pyramids were made, it is possible that they were constructed rather easily. Ever heard of Coral Castle? One guy did all that by himself. No one can explain how he did. What's even weirder is that he moved the whole thing miles away without anyone seeing. He claimed that he had discovered how the Egyptians created the pyramids and that it was actually pretty simple. Photos show a mysterious black box with Edward Leedskalnin that disappeared when he died.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle

**Gorechild**

Kilkrazy wrote:That thing looks like an aubergine, or a giant wang. Knowing the Pharoahs as I do, I'm betting on the second option.

Damn you Kilkrazy, making me burst out laughing at work!

**Tri**

Coral Castle? ... Look on on line ... used anti gravity ... his shed was filled with chains and strange machines ...

He used a blood winch. Amazing that he did it on his own but given enough time you can do almost any thing.

**Necros**

It's an interesting show, and really makes you wonder... but I do think a lot of times they're really "reaching". I wanna believe that aliens were coming here all the time and using our ley lines as their very own intergalctic gas station, but you'd think they would have at least left behind something.. like an alien twinkie wrapper or something.

but why were they all coming here 2000 years ago and setting bushes on fire and giving us commandments, but not now?

**Lord Scythican**

Necros wrote:It's an interesting show, and really makes you wonder... but I do think a lot of times they're really "reaching". I wanna believe that aliens were coming here all the time and using our ley lines as their very own intergalctic gas station, but you'd think they would have at least left behind something.. like an alien twinkie wrapper or something.

but why were they all coming here 2000 years ago and setting bushes on fire and giving us commandments, but not now?

Tyranids ate them.

**Necros**

Squats started our civilization? Suddenly it all makes sense.

**FITZZ**

Necros wrote:It's an interesting show, and really makes you wonder... but I do think a lot of times they're really "reaching". I wanna believe that aliens were coming here all the time and using our ley lines as their very own intergalactic gas station, but you'd think they would have at least left behind something.. like an alien twinkie wrapper or something.

but why were they all coming here 2000 years ago and setting bushes on fire and giving us commandments, but not now?

Perhaps we started out as an "Alien Experiment" where they were very "hands on" to begin with and are now sitting back to observe what happens...and deciding if they should just scrap the whole project.

**Kanluwen**

sebster wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:I'm pretty sure the problem with the Nazca Lines isn't how they were made, but why they were made. The big fingerpointing bit has always been "Clearly, they were made so someone out there could see it from above!"

I'm not sure we should conclude that therefore it was ancient astronauts. People have built all kinds of stuff that folk won't ever see, largely for religious purposes.

Nor am I suggesting that we should jump to that conclusion.

I'm just saying that your initial statement about the construction of the Nazca Lines read, to me, like that was the cause of the ancient astronaut claims.

A far better example is the construction of Stonehenge. Or the Pyramids. Or the Bimini Road, Easter Island heads, etc etc

There's tons of things that ancient astronaut theorists point to as evidence of extraterrestrial tampering.

**Tri**

How about ley lines then?

Though other research puts doubt on that ....

... after all how could they have known.

**frgsinwntr**

lol tri wins the thread

**Ketara**

Tri, we have so many ancient castles and monuments her eine ngland, it would be difficult to draw a line through England and NOT hit a lot of them.

**GalacticDefender**

SilverMK2 wrote:I have to say that I don’t think aliens have been secretly influencing our or any other society on Earth, though I do believe that alien life (both sentient and not) does exist.

It is interesting to note that the detection of radio waves is not the best way of detecting intelligent life in outer space, since (looking at human development as a base line), there will only be a couple of hundred years where radio waves will be blasted out into space before society moves on to better forms of communication (fibre optics for example). It would not surprise me if we do not hit on the next communication breakthrough within another 200 years (quantum wave distortion to just pull some science fictional sounding technology out of the air) which, at present, is undetectable by us but even now is washing over us.

There are various methods of looking remotely at a heavenly body and determining what it is comprise of and once we decide to put very large baseline telescopes into and around the solar system we might be able to more easily resolve planets and take measurements of their atmosphere to look for artificially created gases and so on.

But again, a lot of this relies on us and “them” catching each other at the right time. A few centuries or millennia either way (not to mention the effect of light travelling so slowly ) mean that we could be surrounded by alien civilisations and not know it as they peaked “too early”, or the signals from their planets have not reached us yet…

Also there could be intelligent life that hasn't advanced to the point of sending signals yet.

**Ma55ter_fett**

I would like to think so.

But I can't.

**Gibbsey**

I cant wait for intelligent life to arrive on this planet

**GalacticDefender**

Tri wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:
Tri wrote:Doesn't get round the fact there are 200-400 billion stars to check ... are we interesting enough to bother visiting?

If they seeded the earth with our single-celled ancestors (see directed panspermia) and are monitoring our development, yes. Yes we are.

The whole argument of "Are we interesting enough to visit" seems pretty stupid. WHat if an extraterrestrial race wants to explore things as we do? What if they have the same thirst for knowledge? And who is to say that it wouldn't be first contact with another species for them too? If we found an alien civilization somehow, we would think it was interesting enough to visit, even if the alien species lived on a planet with no resources whatsoever and were ammonia based.

No my point was time even with instantaneous travel spending as little as 5 minutes in a 0.0001% of milky way solar systems would take 3 years.

Maybe with mass use of probes you could identify Interesting systems to look in but then you also have to sift through the information, and does the computer know what a humanoid life for looks like?

Who says life has to be humanoid? Also any extraterrestrials who have advanced past our own civilization could probably look through some sort of crazy telescope. We're not even that far off from the point where we'll be able to tell at least some of the gasses in a planet's atmosphere from Earth. We've already found a few planets in the habitable zone of stars, as well, such as the Gliese 581 system.

Note the fact that I'm not arguing ancient aliens at all, just talkin about space. I highly doubt any intelligent life has been on Earth before, but I wouldn't say they wouldn't if they had the means to get here and knew what was here.

**Mr Mystery**

I find little green men from another planet coming and having a squizz at us far more credible than some malevolent sky wizard making everything.

**Monster Rain**

What if the little green men are what the people back in the day interpreted as being God(s)?

**Mr Mystery**

Then I would expect them to come back and clear up their own mess by slapping around the Fundies who preach hate in their names, claiming to be right.

Duh..

**GalacticDefender**

Lord Scythican wrote:
KingCracker wrote:The most OUTRAGEOUS theory I heard on that show (It might have actually been him) was that the pyramids were actually a type of "fusion combustion chamber" that supplied power to all the obelisks that Egyptians are known for. This isnt the crazy part yet, ready? And those obelisks beam the energy to the satellites in Earths Orbit. Now that was how Egyptians did things apparently.

I think I need some of Cannerus's stash to even remotely think further on that one

What about the pyramids and how they made light deep inside them? The whole reflecting mirror trick from The Mummy was proved to not really work and there wasn't enough air inside to do torches, (lack of soot as well). I wonder if they had the light sources that Ancient Aliens referred too:

They had frikkin oil lamps. I remember reading or watching that somewhere. It was pretty much just a little bowl of oil I think. I also remember hearing somewhere that they had some ventilation shafts.

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Mr Mystery wrote:I find little green men from another planet coming and having a squizz at us far more credible than some malevolent sky wizard making everything.

Thanks for making me not have to say this! I second, third, and fourth this.

**Monster Rain**

Mr Mystery wrote:Then I would expect them to come back and clear up their own mess by slapping around the Fundies who preach hate in their names, claiming to be right.

Why would you expect that?

Also, Fundies?

I question the relevance, not to mention their ability to speak.

**rubiksnoob**

Hmmmm. . . . where might one purchase such undergarments? Only out of curiosity of course.