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2011/03/05 20:06:34
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
The thing is, finding "originality" in most modern music would be rather difficult as most bands for the past 40 years have been "influenced" by other artist/styles.
However,one can find examples of "creativity" in how the same old same old is delivered.
Alice Cooper,for example was clearly inspired by the "shocking" rock music that preceded him,but put a twist on it's delivery...latter Marilyn Manson would come along and for all intents and purposes,emulate Coopers schtick...almost to a fault.
This is basically what I see GaGa doing,she's not really putting any real "Creativity" into what she does..she comes off more like a "copy and paste" of previous entertainers.
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2011/03/05 20:35:30
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
FITZZ wrote: The thing is, finding "originality" in most modern music would be rather difficult as most bands for the past 40 years have been "influenced" by other artist/styles.
However,one can find examples of "creativity" in how the same old same old is delivered.
Alice Cooper,for example was clearly inspired by the "shocking" rock music that preceded him,but put a twist on it's delivery...latter Marilyn Manson would come along and for all intents and purposes,emulate Coopers schtick...almost to a fault.
This is basically what I see GaGa doing,she's not really putting any real "Creativity" into what she does..she comes off more like a "copy and paste" of previous entertainers.
Originality and creativity are completely unrelated IMO. Creativity doesn't care if something has been done or not to be effective. I'm going to have to pull the artistic equivalent of a Godwin and claim Warhol If I weren't so high I'd give examples.
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2011/03/05 20:43:58
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
FITZZ wrote: The thing is, finding "originality" in most modern music would be rather difficult as most bands for the past 40 years have been "influenced" by other artist/styles.
However,one can find examples of "creativity" in how the same old same old is delivered.
Alice Cooper,for example was clearly inspired by the "shocking" rock music that preceded him,but put a twist on it's delivery...latter Marilyn Manson would come along and for all intents and purposes,emulate Coopers schtick...almost to a fault.
This is basically what I see GaGa doing,she's not really putting any real "Creativity" into what she does..she comes off more like a "copy and paste" of previous entertainers.
Originality and creativity are completely unrelated IMO. Creativity doesn't care if something has been done or not to be effective. I'm going to have to pull the artistic equivalent of a Godwin and claim Warhol If I weren't so high I'd give examples.
That's essentially what I'm saying,Originality and creativity aren't the same thing,but...there are "Creative" ways of delivering " Unoriginal" material.
Alice Cooper found a "creative" way of delivering his material...Manson emulated him.
Madonna/Missing Persons found creative ways of delivering their material...GaGa emulates them.
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2011/03/05 21:33:28
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
If she were only emulating Madonna I might agree. She's accused of emulating a countless number of people. There are similarities, but is Gaga really the exact same thing as Madonna? I'd call her significantly more creative. I'm surprised that you'd say Marilyn Manson isn't creative.
"real"ness and originality don't particularly matter with artists IMO but what annoys me is when gaga-fanboy/girls insist that she is both 100% original and acts like this all of the time and hasn't engineered her image at all.
2011/03/05 23:27:00
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus The Unbearable wrote:If she were only emulating Madonna I might agree. She's accused of emulating a countless number of people. There are similarities, but is Gaga really the exact same thing as Madonna? I'd call her significantly more creative. I'm surprised that you'd say Marilyn Manson isn't creative.
It's not that I don't think that Manson or GaGa are "Uncreative",I just see them as "less creative" then their predecessors.
To perhaps put things into context,I see it in terms of the "House" had already been built by others before them...their simply hanging a few different pictures and putting up paneling.
Interesting stuff concerning Madonna though,the Monroe bit was obvious however as Madonna often cited Monroe as a huge influence and IIRC said that " Material Girl" was obviously about Monroe.
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2011/03/05 23:35:57
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Long anwser, she´s one of the single most horrible pop stars to ever exist if you ask me, her music sounds completely generic, her biggest selling point is looking weird, which is useless for music IMHO and to top it all of, she´s bloody ugly too.
2011/03/06 00:27:53
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/06 08:16:11
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
mattyrm wrote:Absolute dog toffee. The song sounds more Madonna than Madonna as well!
Gaga copies Madonna and other 'artists' more than she is original.
warpcrafter wrote:Pfft!!! Sounds like Madonna meets Nine Inch Nails. By the way, Cannerus, your avatar makes me feel like a pedo.
I have a new challenge here Name an original artist.
Neu!
Albatross wrote:The intro to the video was pretty similar - it could have been great, but they just half-arsed it. It was a good idea, but as someone else said, it seemed a bit 'generic sci-fi' slapped together.
It involves a fair number of Gaga-isms from the past. It was the evolution of the manifesto
Which is what? 'Be yourself', 'Wear interesting clothes'? Puh-lease. These are empty platitudes dressed up as philosophy, another major problem I have with her.
which was interesting to see; it was also intentionally campy. This vid feels more honest to me and let's itself be itself if that registers at all. It feels a bit less pretentious to me in that regard. Also bear in mind this is a sci-fi forum critiquing the quality of sci-fi, which is a little bit different of a situation.
The imagery was pretty cool, I thought. It was just that the story-line that she was narrating was fist-in-mouth cringe. Really clumsy.
Albatross wrote:Ok, so I finally gave in and watched the video.
*sigh*
The problem I have with Gaga is that she COULD be totally awesome. She has a platform to really shake things up, and a make a real statement - she is the new breed of modern popstar, in which authenticity and 'realness' are (rightly, in my opinion) considered passe and irrelevant. Her image, and to certain extent, her ethos, embody this.
But where she falls down is her music - it's not particularly terrible, it's just 'meh'. The REALLY frustrating thing is that it doesn't have to be! She could really start pushing some boudaries, like I said, she has a platform now, and she certainly has the musical talent. I was momentarily excited by the song in the first few seconds; I thought is was going to be a brutally minimalist neo-pop record, with a really harsh soundscape. What I got sounded a bit like Madonna (again), and there were snatches of melody that reminded me of 'Waterfalls' by TLC. Just average pop music. So frustrating.
I don't necessarily see the same issue here. She does shake things up as far as pop goes.
I mean in a musical-cultural sense, not in terms of making a big commercial splash - which is in itself no small achievement.
Compare Gaga now to what Britney had become. There are worlds improvement and innovation in between.
'Toxic' is better, and more creative than anything Gaga has done yet. Just as a point of discussion.
If you played 3 distinct subgenres of metal for many people, they would only hear "metal" or "heavy rock" and in many cases wouldn't hear a big enough difference to tell you if they're in different subgenres or not. If you take your average clubbing gay dude who just loves his pop singers, Gaga is shaking up the entire universe. This is terribly progressive, just not your flavor. Make sense?
Condescending...
I like pop music, I listen to pop music - I can tell if (in my opinion) something is good, bad, or average pop music, and why. It's not like anyone's frame of reference is that far removed - we're not talking about west African music here (I wish we were). I see nothing in this particular Lady Gaga song that tips it above average, either in the composition or the production - APART from the aforementioned intro to the first verse (iirc), which, as I said, is how I wanted the song to sound as a whole.
Also, I want to hear what Madonna song Government Hooker sounds like because I get the feeling people are just defaulting to that one out of bias
Yeah, I quite liked it, but I held back from saying anything because it's a remix - if THAT was just the track itself, I would be overjoyed. It would represent a massive leap forward for Germanotta. The outro isn't 'Blue Monday' fading in, nor is it a sample as far as I can tell (because it changes 'chord'). It's just remarkably similar if you know what to look for. Which you do.
So you noticed it.
Albatross wrote:It's a shame, because she has the potential to be a great artist. Personally, it seems that she's either taking terrible advice, or on the flip-side, taking no advice or surrounding herself with sycophants who won't tell her when something isn't quite up to scratch.
I believe it is largely her vision. I also love the fact. I'd rather see one person be able to splash their creative mind on a world-wide canvas and get an unadulterated vision than have someone else interjecting their essence when it's unwanted.
So...authenticity, in other words?
And there's no comparison between Bowie and Gaga. Come on.
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mattyrm wrote:Absolute dog toffee. The song sounds more Madonna than Madonna as well!
Gaga copies Madonna and other 'artists' more than she is original.
warpcrafter wrote:Pfft!!! Sounds like Madonna meets Nine Inch Nails. By the way, Cannerus, your avatar makes me feel like a pedo.
I have a new challenge here Name an original artist.
Neu!
Albatross wrote:The intro to the video was pretty similar - it could have been great, but they just half-arsed it. It was a good idea, but as someone else said, it seemed a bit 'generic sci-fi' slapped together.
It involves a fair number of Gaga-isms from the past. It was the evolution of the manifesto
Which is what? 'Be yourself', 'Wear interesting clothes'? Puh-lease. These are empty platitudes dressed up as philosophy, another major problem I have with her.
which was interesting to see; it was also intentionally campy. This vid feels more honest to me and let's itself be itself if that registers at all. It feels a bit less pretentious to me in that regard. Also bear in mind this is a sci-fi forum critiquing the quality of sci-fi, which is a little bit different of a situation.
The imagery was pretty cool, I thought. It was just that the story-line that she was narrating was fist-in-mouth cringe. Really clumsy.
Albatross wrote:Ok, so I finally gave in and watched the video.
*sigh*
The problem I have with Gaga is that she COULD be totally awesome. She has a platform to really shake things up, and a make a real statement - she is the new breed of modern popstar, in which authenticity and 'realness' are (rightly, in my opinion) considered passe and irrelevant. Her image, and to certain extent, her ethos, embody this.
But where she falls down is her music - it's not particularly terrible, it's just 'meh'. The REALLY frustrating thing is that it doesn't have to be! She could really start pushing some boudaries, like I said, she has a platform now, and she certainly has the musical talent. I was momentarily excited by the song in the first few seconds; I thought is was going to be a brutally minimalist neo-pop record, with a really harsh soundscape. What I got sounded a bit like Madonna (again), and there were snatches of melody that reminded me of 'Waterfalls' by TLC. Just average pop music. So frustrating.
I don't necessarily see the same issue here. She does shake things up as far as pop goes.
I mean in a musical-cultural sense, not in terms of making a big commercial splash - which is in itself no small achievement.
Compare Gaga now to what Britney had become. There are worlds improvement and innovation in between.
'Toxic' is better, and more creative than anything Gaga has done yet. Just as a point of discussion.
If you played 3 distinct subgenres of metal for many people, they would only hear "metal" or "heavy rock" and in many cases wouldn't hear a big enough difference to tell you if they're in different subgenres or not. If you take your average clubbing gay dude who just loves his pop singers, Gaga is shaking up the entire universe. This is terribly progressive, just not your flavor. Make sense?
Condescending...
I like pop music, I listen to pop music - I can tell if (in my opinion) something is good, bad, or average pop music, and why. It's not like anyone's frame of reference is that far removed - we're not talking about west African music here (I wish we were). I see nothing in this particular Lady Gaga song that tips it above average, either in the composition or the production - APART from the aforementioned intro to the first verse (iirc), which, as I said, is how I wanted the song to sound as a whole.
Also, I want to hear what Madonna song Government Hooker sounds like because I get the feeling people are just defaulting to that one out of bias
Yeah, I quite liked it, but I held back from saying anything because it's a remix - if THAT was just the track itself, I would be overjoyed. It would represent a massive leap forward for Germanotta. The outro isn't 'Blue Monday' fading in, nor is it a sample as far as I can tell (because it changes 'chord'). It's just remarkably similar if you know what to look for. Which you do.
So you noticed it.
Albatross wrote:It's a shame, because she has the potential to be a great artist. Personally, it seems that she's either taking terrible advice, or on the flip-side, taking no advice or surrounding herself with sycophants who won't tell her when something isn't quite up to scratch.
I believe it is largely her vision. I also love the fact. I'd rather see one person be able to splash their creative mind on a world-wide canvas and get an unadulterated vision than have someone else interjecting their essence when it's unwanted.
So...authenticity, in other words?
And there's no comparison between Bowie and Gaga. Come on.
Point. Set. Match: Albatross.
Also, Cannerus_The_Unbearable, the thread you linked had you showing how much of a Gaga fanboi you are, and then being shut down in subsequent posts.
Bowie IS original. Gaga is not.
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/06 11:51:28
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
I have a new challenge here Name an original artist.
Kate Bush.
That is all, we now return you to the usual GaGa ranting by CtU.
MGS, you always know exactly what to say to make me smile.
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/06 17:50:52
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?)
I'm not even going to try this game with you The track I heard from them sounded like the noise they would play in hell. I'm a little frightened, you jackoff
Albatross wrote: Which is what? 'Be yourself', 'Wear interesting clothes'? Puh-lease. These are empty platitudes dressed up as philosophy, another major problem I have with her.
It's there for entertainment as far as I'm concerned. Her "message" might make some feel better, and if it makes even one political barrier get broken it's a good thing, but it's more a big experiment for me than anything else.
'Toxic' is better, and more creative than anything Gaga has done yet. Just as a point of discussion.
Britney didn't write Toxic as a side note, but Poker Face or Bad Romance I'd classify as both "more creative" and "better" without a second thought. not sure what you're seeing there that I'm not.
Condescending...
I like pop music, I listen to pop music - I can tell if (in my opinion) something is good, bad, or average pop music, and why. It's not like anyone's frame of reference is that far removed - we're not talking about west African music here (I wish we were). I see nothing in this particular Lady Gaga song that tips it above average, either in the composition or the production - APART from the aforementioned intro to the first verse (iirc), which, as I said, is how I wanted the song to sound as a whole.
I'm not sure what you mean when you refer to the first verse. Starting to border on subjectivity here, but very often music makes me terribly bored. Hers has enough interesting elements to draw me in and has "more going on" than other artists in the same genre. I'm sure if I could get the separate tracks for the electronics I could pin point what it is exactly, but I'm thankfully refraining because I'm glad just being able to enjoy something on it's own merits.
I believe it is largely her vision. I also love the fact. I'd rather see one person be able to splash their creative mind on a world-wide canvas and get an unadulterated vision than have someone else interjecting their essence when it's unwanted.
So...authenticity, in other words?
Actually I was going for egoism I get off on over confidence.
And there's no comparison between Bowie and Gaga. Come on.
They're equally original. That's all I ever said
Point. Set. Match: Jesus.
Let's not lose focus.
Also, Cannerus_The_Unbearable, the thread you linked had you showing how much of a Gaga fanboi you are, and then being shut down in subsequent posts.
Bowie IS original. Gaga is not.
Oh, ok. That clears it up. I was pointing to that thread to show evidence that Bowie wasn't "original," which was never proven. As for Kate Bush, I audited the first three tacks that popped up on Google and heard a singer who threw in a few accidentals. It wasn't anything I've never heard before.
I'm hoping, similar to what Ahtman said, we can get past the originality notion. Everyone is the sum of our experiences, some are just more honest about it and some get noticed more than others.
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2011/03/06 18:04:15
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Come on now! Let's not be giving Cannerus an unduly hard time - he and I are pals, after all. We just happen to violently disagree about the life and work of Lady Gaga.
Kate Bush fething rules, however.
Ahtman wrote:Nothing is original. We need to find a better way to rationalize why something is liked or determine whether it is notable.
Yeah, it's a tricky one, and a problem which has plagued musicologists for quite some time. I think 'interest' is a good determinant of quality in pop music - and by that I mean the creation of textual interest, not popularity. A good piece of pop music has to differ from those that preceded it, because popular music is necessarily simple and formulaic, to some extent. That's largely down to its emergence from european dance styles - a piece is an ineffective dance piece if it veers wildly in rhythm and tempo, plus awkard tonality doesn't tend to lend itself well to memorability, which is a key factor in the success of a piece.
And there it is: the building blocks of a pop song.
So if people actually WANT this relative simplicity and formula, why don't we just listen to the same universal 'perfect' piece of music over and over again? Again, that's tricky. Why don't we eat the same food for every meal, every day? I guess our brains need 'just enough' variety in cultural texts, for us to remain satisfied. And 'satisfied' is the key word perhaps... Cultural theorists like Adorno suggest that popular cultural texts undergo a creative process of 'pseudo-individualisation', certain peripheral elements are changed to provide 'interest', but essentially the new text is overwhelmingly similar to the ones that precede it because that's what we want. We don't want to be challenged, we want to be satisfied.
My personal feeling is that this is a little bit of an oversimplification - it's worth remembering that the Frankfurt School's forays into popular music would have been mostly pre-war American jazz, and that was formulaic to the extreme. Saying that, I think some of Adorno's analyses are borne out by the phenomenon of generic delination - genres are carefully set out, with certain aesthetic and compositional rules that one must follow in order to be considered... 'metal', for example. Just look at the arguments THOSE guys have! By being a fan of a given genre, what one is really saying is that 'I enjoy music that follows these rules'. Of course not every song sounds the same, far from it - but they DO sound similar enough that they can still be considered part of that genre, and if you are a fan of that genre you will be satisfied.
I think the best way to determine a 'good' piece of music in this context is to examine the genre - the text must sound as divergent from other texts within that genre as possible whilst still roughly adhering to its generic rules. This is achieved by means of harmonic, melodic and rhythmic interest.
The Beatles blew peoples minds because they were totally different but still the same.
A few of the books I have bring up the balance of predictability in songwriting vs. shaking things up (the less educated version of what you just said). One needs the listener to be able to identify and feel at home with what's going on, yet have it hook them to begin with. From a technical standpoint, Gaga's songs are super-mega-hyperbolically-overloaded with hooks. That's the main difference between her and most of what else I hear on the radio. If we look at music like a steak, and hooks as a topping, many songs have one topping (maybe some sliced mushrooms). A Gaga song is less about the steak, and more about the toppings. The steak is still there, but it plays an equal role to everything else on top of it and on the plate. Some people just want their damn steak though
Albatross wrote: Kate Bush fething rules, however.
I meant no disrespect, just arguing the originality point. I'd kinda like to drop her voice an octave on first hearing though as the squeaking was a bit much
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2011/03/06 19:10:48
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
I'm bang into this album - it's major influence on my band Dresden. Have I mentioned them?
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Goddammit! Forgot how good this record is - it's genuinely a record no serious collection should be without.
That track is very, very difficult to take seriously, and that's coming from the dude who likes the slightly-mannish chick in a meat dress The melody just sort of skips to random places not for any purpose I can find, but to be different, in addition to the overall feel being very generically 80s. It never really builds into anything, just kind of stands there like the awkward teenager at the dance. The song does not drastically change form beginning to end barring the intro. I suppose if you like the speed it's going that's fine, but I grew bored rather quickly.
I have a theory that goes as follows: If someone holds down a note on a synth and other noise happens to be occurring nearby, Alby will say it's a good song Bonus points if someone drones in a voice that grates on me
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2011/03/06 19:24:40
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Having a booty like Ru Paul doesn't make one less manly. In her case more specifically having a really manly face isn't hidden by having implants. She distracts most horny guys by being (superficially) hyper-sexual to cover up her homeliness. Who cares if she looks meh, she'll put her hand over her vagina, show bcheek, or put pasties on her boobies!
Seen to many women to fall for it. Also, cherry picking photo's, ect ect It's amazing what plastic surgery and photoshop can do.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2011/03/06 19:45:37
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
That's a really, really old photo with horrible make up. I think she's gorgeous. Most of the Dakka user's wives would look different with or without (or even moreso with with really bad) make up I'd venture
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2011/03/06 19:46:58
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:That's a really, really old photo with horrible make up. I think she's gorgeous. Most of the Dakka user's wives would look different with or without (or even moreso with with really bad) make up I'd venture
If you look at photo's before she made it big she looks very, very different.
Even in the interview she had on a fairly big chatshow (Johnathon ross's) when she first came to the uk she looked totally different and dressed like anyone hollywood.
2011/03/06 19:53:34
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:That's a really, really old photo with horrible make up. I think she's gorgeous. Most of the Dakka user's wives would look different with or without (or even moreso with with really bad) make up I'd venture
If you look at photo's before she made it big she looks very, very different.
Even in the interview she had on a fairly big chatshow (Johnathon ross's) when she first came to the uk she looked totally different and dressed like anyone hollywood.
Why does it matter if she looked different? She's gone from brown hair, tanned, different nose shape, to very pale, gaunt and skinny to inbetween now.
Just like anyone
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2011/03/06 19:56:05
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:That's a really, really old photo with horrible make up. I think she's gorgeous. Most of the Dakka user's wives would look different with or without (or even moreso with with really bad) make up I'd venture
If you look at photo's before she made it big she looks very, very different.
Even in the interview she had on a fairly big chatshow (Johnathon ross's) when she first came to the uk she looked totally different and dressed like anyone hollywood.
Why does it matter if she looked different? She's gone from brown hair, tanned, different nose shape, to very pale, gaunt and skinny to inbetween now.
Just like anyone
It matters because the annoying gagafans (gaga fans that are annoying that is, not all gagafans are annoying) insist that she was in fact born that way is 100% genuine in her philosophy and dress sense.
2011/03/06 20:01:28
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
This threads interesting, Im not mega into music see, so I enjoy these because it gets me on youtube listening to things ive never heard of..
Cannerus, I really dont understand why you love the woman so much.. Pokerface!? It was awful! Toxic by Britney sounded alright, pokerface was absolute garbage, when she starts rapping and says "bluffin with my muffin" i want to smash the speakers on my PC up!
And for alby, Mate, I genuinelly like your own music so i took your advice and listened to "hounds of love" there, God it was awful!
What do I like at the moment? Im kinda hard to please with music.. I always like certain singles but when i get an album I think 50% of the songs suck.
er...
Oh yeah ive been listening to Muse, they are ok I suppose, but the songs get worse when the bloke starts singing. Here are two that jump to mind.
Dont you think? The first two minutes of KOC are mint, then he starts singing and i just think... "meh" and the lyrics are kinda dumb... Same with Newborn, its ace till he starts singing that it just kinda sucks.. they should just do instrumentals like that Robert Miles fella!
I think the last album I really liked was American Idiot by greenday, and I liked all killer no filler by Sum41. I think I have the musical taste of a 15 year old boy, but generally I like music i can go on the punchbag to.
Anyway, thats enough about my poor taste, lets get back to Cannerus trying to convince us that the bird with a nose like a builders elbow is good.
Tell me her best three songs mate and ill look them up and tell you what I think!
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
2011/03/06 20:24:46
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
@caf: To be fair, annoying X fans are annoying. Annoying warhammer fans are annoying, annoying Bieber fans are annoying, annoying Obama/Bush/Palin fans are annoying. The public is on average a little more sensible than the loudest person out there.
@matty: Matthew Bellamy reminds me of John Kerry in that everything he sings tries to be epic, even when it's not
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:@caf: To be fair, annoying X fans are annoying. Annoying warhammer fans are annoying, annoying Bieber fans are annoying, annoying Obama/Bush/Palin fans are annoying. The public is on average a little more sensible than the loudest person out there.
@matty: Matthew Bellamy reminds me of John Kerry in that everything he sings tries to be epic, even when it's not
If I weren't so high I'd give examples.
Name an original artist.
Condescending...
