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2011/03/06 21:48:09
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Albatross wrote:Come on now! Let's not be giving Cannerus an unduly hard time - he and I are pals, after all. We just happen to violently disagree about the life and work of Lady Gaga.
He's just called Kate Bush 'squeaky' and says he's unable to take her seriously when he touts constant threads in the OT about how great a bacon clad autotune reliant poptart is to an almost entirely and consistently hostile audience.
I'm all for giving him a hard time or indeed for making him serve hard time for the crime of monumentally epic lack of taste.
Also,
Is possibly my favourite Kate Bush track, note the presence of a young Hugh Laurie in the video...
2011/03/06 22:00:07
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:
I have a new challenge here Name an original artist.
Kate Bush.
That is all, we now return you to the usual GaGa ranting by CtU.
Whoa, now that's a hot woman I wouldn't mind shaking up her bush if you know what I mean. (seriously does anyone actually appreciate her for her musical ability over looks? )
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2011/03/06 22:48:15
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
As for Kate.. like some of her stuff but Within Temptation did much better on "Running up That Hill"
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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote: I'll avoid the autotune accusation.
Facts are not insults nor accusations.
She has a nose like Gonzo the Great and her 'music' would be even worse if not for the assistance that modern technology provides.
MikZor wrote:
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I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/07 07:41:49
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote: I'll avoid the autotune accusation.
Facts are not insults nor accusations.
She has a nose like Gonzo the Great and her 'music' would be even worse if not for the assistance that modern technology provides.
She sings just fine on her own. A couple of songs feature auto tune, one of which uses it as parody and the others use it to create extra parts in addition to the main melody. Is her voice adjusted through standard recording techniques? Yes, but no more so than any rock singer is.
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2011/03/07 08:07:03
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
OP, Song: Mostly Express Yourself with hints of Vogue and I think I caught references to two other 80s-era Madonna songs. It's just an open love letter to Madonna, saying "I owe you all I am, mother."
OP, video: I like the concept, but the writing's just terrible. She's not an idiot. She could have expressed her ideas better, but she has no need to since 90% of the people who will see it are sci-fi illiterate fans who won't criticize, or people who dislike her already.
Gaga, general:
Openly derivative, not particularly creative, would have made a perfectly respectable DJ and songwriter for more talented singers. Appearance-wise, is one among many similar NYC butterfaces I've encountered.
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AvatarForm wrote:She has a nose like Gonzo the Great and her 'music' would be even worse if not for the assistance that modern technology provides.
Lady Gaga can certainly sing. There's a whole argument to be had about whether her approach to music actually drowns out her talent (and the contrast of her last couple of tracks being so bland musically and so weird in the videos certainly lend support to the argument) but I don't think it's very accurate to say she can't sing.
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2011/03/07 08:48:57
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
AvatarForm wrote:She has a nose like Gonzo the Great and her 'music' would be even worse if not for the assistance that modern technology provides.
Lady Gaga can certainly sing. There's a whole argument to be had about whether her approach to music actually drowns out her talent (and the contrast of her last couple of tracks being so bland musically and so weird in the videos certainly lend support to the argument) but I don't think it's very accurate to say she can't sing.
Please provide evidence. Everything so far indicates the contrary to your belief.
Autotune and other gimicks are not singing...
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/07 10:19:17
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Yeah, so the musical discussion on offer here is pretty much in a terminal nosedive. I'm out.
I will leave with one parting shot, though:
Cannerus wrote:I have a theory that goes as follows: If someone holds down a note on a synth and other noise happens to be occurring nearby, Alby will say it's a good song Bonus points if someone drones in a voice that grates on me
One: anyone can sing.. just look at the "Idol" (american, canadian, european varients etc...) prelims......
Two: Autotuning isn't just making Cher sound warbly.... Its making an average singer sound better by leveling some vocals and highlighting others.
Three: The claim that the song in the OP is "derivative" isn't going to cut it if Madonna decides to take it to court.... Just ask Robert Matthew Van Winkle about his little foray into being "derivative".
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For the record I meant no offense to Albatross, he's a good friend and probably one the most musically knowledegable people I know and I meant what I said as a joke. There are a few groups he's liked that use synths or have voices that bother me (Radiohead and Coldplay come to mind) and I was no way inferring anything about him and happen to have the Dresden album in my car. Just clearing the air.
The copycat claims I can deal with, calling someone out on something with no proof is a little irritating. She sang for all of 15 seconds on the last VMAs and stole the show, critics agreeing oddly enough. If you care for more proof, there are a few videos where her tracks drop out from behind her when the system messes up and she keeps singing, not counting acoustic performances. I'm up for arguing about the merits of originality or creativity in the name of fun, but not for having to defend the obvious as it's a little silly.
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2011/03/07 17:19:07
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
I've never seen that one It was one of the unreleased tracks we waited forever to have leak. She rarely acknowledges that these tracks exist except by quoting them in interviews then giving a brief pause for the fans to freak out Awesome find!
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2011/03/07 18:09:25
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Go back to the only thing you can do; DANCE MUSIC. When you try to be an actual person,no one likes you. No one cares how unique and special you are. We just want to see you dress funny and play catchy music.
It's like trying to take daffy duck seriously when he wants to talk about duck hunting laws. No one cares.
Don't get me wrong, she does have talent, and she is quite captivating. I like her. Just not this song. Or the video.
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2011/03/07 18:23:18
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
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Amaya wrote:Seriously, how hard is it to google Lady Gaga acoustic?
I lol'd... his is the most monotone 'singing' I have heard in some time...
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 01:04:42
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Shadowbrand wrote:Lady Gaga doesn't have a nice ass.
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MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 08:31:34
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
You may wanna pull the pics down also. They arent exactly PG13*
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 12:36:11
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
The problem I have with GaGa's 'creativity' is that it is completely unbridled. She forces her brain to vomit onto her 'canvas', and the masses are showered with the end result. She has absolutely no artistic restraint, no motive (other than to catch as many people's attention as possible), and no real end result in mind. Thus, I lose all respect for her as an artist.
Anyone is capable of creating the first thing that comes to mind. That is not the purpose of art. There is no defining premise behind any of her 'work', no desired result, and no attempt to shape any of it into something worthwhile or cohesive. Her very existance is like a slap in the face to those of us who are actually attempting to create something meaningful.
This is not creativity, it is chaos. There is a marked difference between the two.
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2011/03/09 13:06:31
Subject: Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
Chrysaor686 wrote:The problem I have with GaGa's 'creativity' is that it is completely unbridled. She forces her brain to vomit onto her 'canvas', and the masses are showered with the end result. She has absolutely no artistic restraint, no motive (other than to catch as many people's attention as possible), and no real end result in mind. Thus, I lose all respect for her as an artist.
Anyone is capable of creating the first thing that comes to mind. That is not the purpose of art. There is no defining premise behind any of her 'work', no desired result, and no attempt to shape any of it into something worthwhile or cohesive. Her very existance is like a slap in the face to those of us who are actually attempting to create something meaningful.
This is not creativity, it is chaos. There is a marked difference between the two.
GaGa in 20 years when her brain cannot vomit anything fresh or 'original':
MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)
Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is But we're not that bad... are we?
2011/03/09 14:29:27
Subject: Re:Born This Way video premiers! (possibly NSFW?) Edit: Another new song added! "Government Hooker"
I swear Cannerus whenever you make a thread like this you are basically spraying troll pheromone over the body of a sixteen year old Japanese school girl and instead of putting a apple in her mouth you put a wad of greasy orgasmic bacon.
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(seriously does anyone actually appreciate her for her musical ability over looks? 
)
It was one of the unreleased tracks we waited forever to have leak. She rarely acknowledges that these tracks exist except by quoting them in interviews then giving a brief pause for the fans to freak out 
