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SilverMK2 wrote:. However, it would be kind of like making a movie set in the vatican where the pope has a wife.

Popes who were married
St. Peter, Apostle
St. Felix III 483-492 (2 children)
St. Hormidas 514-523 (1 son)
St. Silverus (Antonia) 536-537
Hadrian II 867-872 (1 daughter)
Clement IV 1265-1268 (2 daughters)
Felix V 1439-1449 (1 son)

FITZZ wrote:
Although it doesn't take place in World War ll, I believe the World War l film Sergent York is worth a mention when it comes to " must see" War films.

That's the one where he does a turkey call and the enemy soldier sticks his head up from cover then he shoots him What a load of bollocks.

reds8n wrote:

SilverMK2 wrote:. However, it would be kind of like making a movie set in the vatican where the pope has a wife.

Popes who were married
St. Peter, Apostle
St. Felix III 483-492 (2 children)
St. Hormidas 514-523 (1 son)
St. Silverus (Antonia) 536-537
Hadrian II 867-872 (1 daughter)
Clement IV 1265-1268 (2 daughters)
Felix V 1439-1449 (1 son)

Shhh!

Next you are going to say that Popes don't poop in the woods!

And I was referring to a more "modern" pope of the "no playing hide the sausage with women" Catholic Church [/quickly covering his back]

Kid_Kyoto wrote:The Germans actually speak German.

LIES! Ve all kno zat ze ger-manz ale speakken leik zis in der filmen.

Old war films are uber tho I used to enjoy watching them with my dad.

Tropic Thunder

In the Winter of 1969, an elite force of the US Army was sent on a top secret assignment in Southeast Vietnam. The objective: rescue Sgt. Four Leaf Tayback from a heavily guarded NVA Prison Camp. The mission was considered to be near-suicide. Of the ten men sent, four returned. Of those four, three wrote books about what happened. Of those three, two were published. And of those two, only one got a movie deal. This is the story of the men who attempted to make that movie

Tugg Speedman: You tell the world what happened here.
Kirk Lazarus: What happened here?
Tugg Speedman: I don't know, but you need to tell them.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
Although it doesn't take place in World War ll, I believe the World War l film Sergent York is worth a mention when it comes to " must see" War films.

That's the one where he does a turkey call and the enemy soldier sticks his head up from cover then he shoots him What a load of bollocks.

I thiiink thats actual though...

I saw it along with many others on Sunday afternoon’s pre roast dinner whilst growing up.

I have to also but in on Kelly's Heroes. I great film when sober, but weirdly I have noticed that it always seems to be on TV when I get home with a skin full and a take-away curry; perfect pished viewing.

Also;
Full Metal Jacket - Animal Mutha “Born to Kill!”!
Platoon - Awesome film but the sound track rocks as well!
Battle of the Bulge - quite liked it but again with the wrong tanks!
Ice Cold In Alex - you can literally taste the pint at the end it is so well played
The Gift Horse - good film made even better when you consider the absolutely incredible story it is based upon
Laurence of Arabia - no explanation needed
Tumbledown/An Ungentlemanly Act - two films about the Falklands War. Neither an epic but there are mind blowing scenes in both, especially the defence of the Governors House in the latter.

Battle of Britain. Lawerence Olivier. Enough freeking said.
Battleground. 101 in Bastogne based on true events. Grittily realistic for its time.
The War Lover. Steve McQueen. Again enough freeking said.
In Harm's Way. Somewhat disconcerting film. Epic battle scenes for its time.
Pork Chop Hill. Gregory Peck reliving some of the fun that made my uncle crazier than a gak rat.

Frazzled wrote:

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
Although it doesn't take place in World War ll, I believe the World War l film Sergent York is worth a mention when it comes to " must see" War films.

That's the one where he does a turkey call and the enemy soldier sticks his head up from cover then he shoots him What a load of bollocks.

I thiiink thats actual though...

Actual.

Cannerus The Unbearable wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Cannerus The Unbearable wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
Although it doesn't take place in World War ll, I believe the World War l film Sergent York is worth a mention when it comes to " must see" War films.

That's the one where he does a turkey call and the enemy soldier sticks his head up from cover then he shoots him What a load of bollocks.

I think that's actual though...

Actual.

Actually...as the story goes,the real Alvin York supposedly did use a "Turkey Call" to cause enemy combatants to peek out from cover,thus giving him a clear shot at them...but I'm not sure of the validity of that tale.
However,York was one of the most decorated American soldiers in WW l..and the accounts of his actions depicted in the film are fairly accurate.

biccat wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:THis was Bridge week on Netflix for me, Bridge over the River Kwai was my last film and it's also a great one.

Unfortunately the Bridge over the River Kwai is another "westernized" version of (reasonably) realistic events. A good movie, but not so great on the history.

I really enjoyed the recent Band of Brothers and (to a lesser extent) Pacific. Both were pretty good (although again, western/American-centric) portrayals of WWII.

Bridge over the River Kwai was about british POWs under Japanese guards, the bridge was built by both the british and whoever else they captured in order to allow Japanese troops easier travel through the jungle(IIRC the chinese/indian POWs started at the end of the rails and the British started at the beginning of the rails). In the book they end up blowing up the bridge although I think the movie's ending is a bit more dramatic than the book's ending.

Band of Brothers is about the 101st airborne which were American troops and of course Pacific involves a lot of the Pacific Theatre from America's view. Just remember that each theatre of war was split between the allied countries and major offensives that included forces from different allied countries didn't really occur that often.

We could use some more british theatres though, the whole African theatre would be nice to see along with the Chinese theatre.

Bridge over the River Kwai was about british POWs under Japanese guards, the bridge was built by both the british and whoever else they captured in order to allow Japanese troops easier travel through the jungle(IIRC the chinese/indian POWs started at the end of the rails and the British started at the beginning of the rails). In the book they end up blowing up the bridge although I think the movie's ending is a bit more dramatic than the book's ending.

***Unfortunately they didn't blow it up. The rail line is still there (or survived the war anyway).

I've walked over the bridge over the River Kwai.



Had to dodge a troupe of elephants on the other side, which was fun

From what I remember the larger box sections were ones that were replaced after being damaged/destroyed.

My memory of what the guide said is a bit hazy as it was quite some time ago

I do remember we sat on the train waiting to go over the bridge for ages while watching a baby/young elephant mooching around before they decided it was broken.

halonachos wrote:

biccat wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:THis was Bridge week on Netflix for me, Bridge over the River Kwai was my last film and it's also a great one.

Unfortunately the Bridge over the River Kwai is another "westernized" version of (reasonably) realistic events. A good movie, but not so great on the history.

I really enjoyed the recent Band of Brothers and (to a lesser extent) Pacific. Both were pretty good (although again, western/American-centric) portrayals of WWII.

Bridge over the River Kwai was about british POWs under Japanese guards, the bridge was built by both the british and whoever else they captured in order to allow Japanese troops easier travel through the jungle(IIRC the chinese/indian POWs started at the end of the rails and the British started at the beginning of the rails). In the book they end up blowing up the bridge although I think the movie's ending is a bit more dramatic than the book's ending.

Well, the book was fictional as well (and French to boot!).

halonachos wrote:We could use some more british theatres though, the whole African theatre would be nice to see along with the Chinese theatre.

While I appreciate the British effort and steadfastness during WWII, there really wasn't a lot of action on the Island. Unless you're talking about brits in theater, to which I'd agree.

Also, there's a significant lack of Southern Europe WWII movies (and Casablanca, being a chick flick, doesn't count).

Patton was southern Europe as were the Guns of Anzio(or something like that). I don't know about too many battles in Southern Europe besides the ones around Italy and Greece.

@silver,

Blowing it up was fictional although they made two bridges, a bamboo one and the concrete one that you walked over. Both were destroyed by allied bombers though, the Japanese helped fix the concrete one. If you look at the trusses some are circular and others are angular, the angular ones were some war reparations from the Japanese government after the war.

See my edit

Edit: And I knew they said something about the other bridge, but I could not remember what it was, so I omitted to mention it.

One of my favourite bits. Sadly I couldn't find the 'umbrella' conversation.

Nijmegen bridge was the toughest level in Medal of Honor Frontline, so I can understand the circumstances of the movie.

FITZZ wrote:

Cannerus The Unbearable wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Cannerus The Unbearable wrote:

FITZZ wrote:
Although it doesn't take place in World War ll, I believe the World War l film Sergent York is worth a mention when it comes to " must see" War films.

That's the one where he does a turkey call and the enemy soldier sticks his head up from cover then he shoots him What a load of bollocks.

I think that's actual though...

Actual.

Actually...as the story goes,the real Alvin York supposedly did use a "Turkey Call" to cause enemy combatants to peek out from cover,thus giving him a clear shot at them...but I'm not sure of the validity of that tale.
However,York was one of the most decorated American soldiers in WW l..and the accounts of his actions depicted in the film are fairly accurate.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/york.html

Hollywood had to tone down the story to make it believable

In addition to a lot of the movies mentioned here Stalingrad kicks all kinds of ass.

They didnt buy in loads of extras for a bridge too far they just co-opted all the british and american squadies who were stationed over there at the time of filming and after supplying the officers mess with shed loads of booze were able to use all the men they wanted ...!
also you should watch BATLEGROUND http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041163/ as it follows the 101st airborne at bastogne but they couldnt be botherd to get extras in ether so just shipped in aload of de-mobed 101st airborne in to play themselfs .

George Spiggott wrote:

One of my favourite bits. Sadly I couldn't find the 'umbrella' conversation.

Love it.
The only better bit was gee hackmans accent.

Ever seen "Tobruk"? Or "Lion of the Desert"?

I like that they used authentic vehicles in Band of Brothers.
A Bridge too Far had some really fugzizzit moments with the German Vehicles. It was a nice attempt to make them look germanish, but imagine what a bit of CGI could do these days.

Also check out "The Bridge at Remagen" for more bridge bashing fun.

snurl wrote:Ever seen "Tobruk"? Or "Lion of the Desert"?

I like that they used authentic vehicles in Band of Brothers.
A Bridge too Far had some really fugzizzit moments with the German Vehicles. It was a nice attempt to make them look germanish, but imagine what a bit of CGI could do these days.

Also check out "The Bridge at Remagen" for more bridge bashing fun.

Like all WW2 movies their panzers were dressed up T-34. The actual tank is quite aways bigger then portrayed

snurl wrote:
A Bridge too Far had some really fugzizzit moments with the German Vehicles. It was a nice attempt to make them look germanish, but imagine what a bit of CGI could do these days.

I heard they wanted to but for some odd reason all the German vehicles they could find were blown up

Funny that.

youbedead wrote:

snurl wrote:Ever seen "Tobruk"? Or "Lion of the Desert"?

I like that they used authentic vehicles in Band of Brothers.
A Bridge too Far had some really fugzizzit moments with the German Vehicles. It was a nice attempt to make them look germanish, but imagine what a bit of CGI could do these days.

Also check out "The Bridge at Remagen" for more bridge bashing fun.

Like all WW2 movies their panzers were dressed up T-34. The actual tank is quite aways bigger then portrayed

Band of Brothers did use a t-34 based tiger. However there were authentic Jagdpanthers, Sturm IVs, Sturm IIIs, A Marder, and several halftracks. If you watch the "Carentain" episode you can see them all.

I have to say I would love to see a British based Band of Brothers style series.

Perhaps set in Africa, following one of the commando units that was eventually folded into the SAS and then went on to work in Europe.

That way you also get to meet some other flavours of Commonwealth troops as well. Might also get to see some different bad guys as well (Italians, Turks, etc).

The Longest Day had this one scene, a long single shot if not mistaken where the Free French charge through a city a long a canal to assault a German gun position, that was a great scene.

snurl wrote:Band of Brothers did use a t-34 based tiger. However there were authentic Jagdpanthers, Sturm IVs, Sturm IIIs, A Marder, and several halftracks. If you watch the "Carentain" episode you can see them all.

I don't think the Jagdpanther was real either, it looks too small. The man in the hatch looks huge, maybe I'm mistaken and it is real, but I've see the real thing and it dwarfs a man.

The Band of Brothers/Private Ryan Tiger 1 is pretty small, I assume it was the same one. After Saving Private Ryan came out the Tiger I was displayed in Bovington for a while, the real Tiger was in another hall. I was only a lad then but I was almost head height with the engine deck on the movie one, in comparison I'm an adult now and still have to reach up to the deck on the real thing.

Older films give me a chuckle because they usually repaint Patton tanks and put crosses on them, see 'Battle of the Bulge'. Audiences now seem to ask a lot more accuracy.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Great Escape, that's *the* war film surely. Not entirely accurate I'll grant you, but it's great at christmas and has a top cast.

'The Colditz Story' is a decent older film, B&W 1955, and based on the book starring John Mills and Eric Portman.

I've seen the movie one and the real one in person, I concur.

But that Jagdpanther was the real mcoy. If you look closely at the suspention it's a dead giveaway on the fake tigers but it is correct on the Jagdpanther.
I saw one at the Aberdeen museum, and while large, it is not as tall as the full panther version.

The same Tiger I saw years ago at Aberdeen is the exact same one you saw at Bovington. It is the only one that still exists that still runs. Bovington aquired it on loan from Aberdeen and has done a wonderful restoration on it.