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dienekes96 wrote:The tears of the xenon players are delicious.

I hope the release schedule is as follows:
GK
BT
Sisters
DA
6th edition
CSM
SM
New Army - Imperial Fists
Splash release of Ork corpses for Ork players
6th edition Space Wolves
New Army - Emperor's Children

You forgot to mention that the 6E starter will be DA vs SW

That goes without saying.

Not yet! I just painted three squads of dual cyclone, tank hunting terminators. Don't take em away so soon!

I hope Kroot is wrong for once.

My dream release schedule would be: Necrons/SoB/Tau/BT

WHY IN THE WORLD DO Black Templar even have their own codex????? They are a sub chapter and if I remember right their 2 big claims to fame where the Land raider crusader(currently in every codex), and the Emperors Champion(easily put in Codex SM as Special charater). If anouther codex SM must be made why not expand on some of the founding chapteres. But really like the Crimson fist it would be all to easy for GW to just slip the BT into the next SM codex. Besides BT are doing fine where I am at BT Just took first place in our last Tournament, GW needs to Look into the old dusty armies well before these guys.

Yes, BT should totally come out ASAP. It isn't like Necrons, Tau or SOB need it at all. As a xeno player I'm starting to dislike the community ignoring anything not in power armor more than GW ignoring us. Seems like insult to injury or something.

Orkhead wrote:WHY IN THE WORLD DO Black Templar even have their own codex????? They are a sub chapter and if I remember right their 2 big claims to fame where the Land raider crusader(currently in every codex), and the Emperors Champion(easily put in Codex SM as Special charater). If anouther codex SM must be made why not expand on some of the founding chapteres. But really like the Crimson fist it would be all to easy for GW to just slip the BT into the next SM codex. Besides BT are doing fine where I am at BT Just took first place in our last Tournament, GW needs to Look into the old dusty armies well before these guys.

Your right, lets ignore crusader squads and all the BT special rules.

You know who DONT need their own book? Dark Angels. Easily put in to C:SM without any trouble. Move the special characters and call it good. BT, like SW, have enough variety in them to warrant their own book.

BT are not in need of a new codex (at least when compared with other older dex's). However they most certainly do deserve their own dex. Champion with vows, Army wide fearless in CC, no psykers at all, 20 man troops selections, crusader seals, tactical squads with the ability to be shooty or have a BP CCW, and sword brethren. They have no vets (I know sword brethren are pretty much the same) no sarges, no whirlwinds, and no devestators. Thats a lot of different to put into a SC "chapter tactics" rule or whatever they call that in the new marine dex.

Also the game is about the imperium vs. everything else’s so unfortunately that means the release are a bit imperium centric. You choose to play this game so you have to accept the writers and designers vision.

mjl7atlas wrote:Noooooooooo! Where is the Dark Angels love?

Dark Angels came out after Black Templars, it makes complete sense to update Templars first. I'm saying this as someone who has a Dark Angels army.

Also, who the hell thinks that Sisters and Black Templars will be in the same codex? That is the most asinine, idiotic, and damn-near impossible claim I've ever heard in relation to Warhammer stuff.

Brother SRM wrote:

mjl7atlas wrote:Noooooooooo! Where is the Dark Angels love?

Dark Angels came out after Black Templars, it makes complete sense to update Templars first. I'm saying this as someone who has a Dark Angels army.

It's sad to say but yes. Currently my DA from before the last codex are ina case and the current codex in a box for being pretty useless. It did have pretty pictures though...

Happygrunt wrote:I hope Kroot is wrong for once.
My dream release schedule would be: Necrons/SoB/Tau/BT

Actually, I am not sure about the release schedule. Personally I would prefer the one you suggest, giving me new Kroot miniatures sooner and reducing the 3rd edition Codex and no-Xeno-release problem (although we will have at least 3 for 5th edition: Tyranids, Dark Eldar and Necrons). And we have some 2 year old unreleased Tau models as well.

BT are obviously in the pipeline as are the other three. And personally I expect it to be a minor release with only a few new models, as they have an up to date plastic sprue and metal HQ.

This rumour poster puts the BT release later:

ghost21 wrote:From what I heard BT will be in the new starter box ala Black Reach, quickly followed by their dex, as I really don't collect marines I kinda usually skip those meetings.(...)
The order I heard was BT just after 6th.

Malakai wrote:Is there a rumour that BT are going to be in the 6th ed box?

Yup, with Daemons apparently (odd choice I thought).

Malakai wrote:How reliable is this rumour? I know that anything this far out is sketchy, but maybe on a scale of 1-10?

I'd give it a 7, but remember I don't usually pay attention to Marines. I'm a Chaos and Xeno guy, but I did hear there's a character who makes a certain Grey Knights character look tame...
Oh sisters codex ... shall we say nicest codex cover of the year?(...)

The "prototypes" that a few people saw were BT and Daemons. I only report what I see annd hear.

This starter set rumour fits 100% other rumours about 6th edition starter:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/352734.page
And it puts the Sororitas Codex into 2011 (after Necrons).
Fits what I heard about 2011 becoming a busy year.

dienekes96 wrote:Splash release of Ork corpses for Ork players

This will be a plastic kit, because you need so many of them

mjl7atlas wrote:Noooooooooo! Where is the Dark Angels love?

Dark Angel's love is a delicate topic

Brother SRM wrote:

mjl7atlas wrote:Noooooooooo! Where is the Dark Angels love?

Dark Angels came out after Black Templars, it makes complete sense to update Templars first. I'm saying this as someone who has a Dark Angels army.

Also, who the hell thinks that Sisters and Black Templar's will be in the same codex? That is the most asinine, idiotic, and damn-near impossible claim I've ever heard in relation to Warhammer stuff.

I love Black Templar's, but Christ if they teamed up with Sisters of Battle I would stop playing them, holy crap the thought of the two would drive me insane. And also the new Khorne Grey Knights would have to slaughter the Templar's along with Sisters on another world when they need more blood.

On a side note of my madness I do agree that Templar's could hold off on an update. At least until the right ones get theirs first.

Kroothawk wrote:

Dark Angel's love is a delicate topic

Dark Angels do it in secret

Yeah...,here goes my hopes of seeing a decent CSM dex before the end of the world...

Oh well if the world ends in 2012 then i won't see it be done by Matt Ward,where Zerkers and Noise marines are best pale ever and that they often make some orgies while rapping Kroots and Tau chicks...

Slayer le boucher wrote:Yeah...,here goes my hopes of seeing a decent CSM dex before the end of the world...

Oh well if the world ends in 2012 then i won't see it be done by Matt Ward,where Zerkers and Noise marines are best pale ever and that they often make some orgies while rapping Kroots and Tau chicks...

Just before the fiery comet ends the world in 2012, Ward will finish the draft of the CSM codex, replacing Abaddon with Raglac Seunram, an evil clone of a certain Loyalist ChapterMaster that that took over the traitor legions. He'll cost 180 points, be the secret avatar of a fifth and all-powerful Chaos God called Ror'epme, and also be the only Astartes able to bang chicks. In fact, he just impregnated Lelith Hesperax.

Sephyr wrote:In fact, he just impregnated Lelith Hesperax.

Just by looking at her, don't you forget. He was also the guy who buried the Dragon, and put the Emperor to rest on his Golden Toilet.

But Black Templars on the starter set are a bit odd. They were on the 3rd edition one, so it sounds to me to be a bit improbable.

Also, Daemons? I wish we would get some Imperial Guard and finally have 100 miniatures in a starter... on one side

SonicPara wrote:Yes, BT should totally come out ASAP. It isn't like Necrons, Tau or SOB need it at all. As a xeno player I'm starting to dislike the community ignoring anything not in power armor more than GW ignoring us. Seems like insult to injury or something.

It's the price we pay for not looking like bad 80s sci-fi gone wrong.

Maybe if we had worse looking boots we would get more attention.

dienekes96 wrote:The tears of the xenos players are delicious.

I hope the release schedule is as follows:
GK
BT
Sisters (just kidding...no one cares about Sisters)
DA
6th edition
CSM
SM
New Army - Imperial Fists
Splash release of Ork corpses for Ork players
6th edition Space Wolves
New Army - Emperor's Children

Sounds like the most reasonable rumor I've heard in a long time.

dienekes96 wrote:The tears of the xenos players are delicious.

You are a very bad man...

I like Marines - I even liked the Stormraven (well, most of it). And I already have a BT army. But with the Grey Knights I've reached power armour saturation point. The models, which are largely excellent, don't prompt me to reach for my credit card, and the codex was over-written and, in many places, clumsy to the point of silliness. The level to which they have cranked up the special rules is also such that non-Marine players are justified in asking what is going on. So I would like to see a very long gap between the Grey Knights and the next Marine release (Sisters would be very welcome). I would love to see the Necrons get the kind of make-over that the DE got - a new Monolith model, some more big stuff, and plastic Wraiths and Immortals. Plus a codex full of fluff to give them more depth. Thats the kind of thing that WH40k needs.

Tailgunner wrote:

dienekes96 wrote:The tears of the xenos players are delicious.

You are a very bad man...

I like Marines - I even liked the Stormraven (well, most of it). And I already have a BT army. But with the Grey Knights I've reached power armour saturation point. The models, which are largely excellent, don't prompt me to reach for my credit card, and the codex was over-written and, in many places, clumsy to the point of silliness. The level to which they have cranked up the special rules is also such that non-Marine players are justified in asking what is going on. So I would like to see a very long gap between the Grey Knights and the next Marine release (Sisters would be very welcome). I would love to see the Necrons get the kind of make-over that the DE got - a new Monolith model, some more big stuff, and plastic Wraiths and Immortals. Plus a codex full of fluff to give them more depth. Thats the kind of thing that WH40k needs.

I agree, Necrons, and Tau are in extreme need for fluff. I think that Necron, SoB, Tau, BT, seems extremely reasonable. However, if BT i truly going to be in the 6th Starter Box.....I pray to any god that will listen that they write the Tau codex for 6th so they don't have the same issue they had on their last release....Tau!!! AWESOME!!!!! ........5th edi release....... wait what....

This is interesting:

BT will be sooner. They already have models and artwork for the boxes and so forth. They will be before Sisters I can guarantee it.

Artwork for the boxes again? I'm a little sceptical to be honest, but that's wonderful if it's true!

btemple0 wrote:

redeyed wrote:If Matt Ward does the codex then they will tweek them by more silly rules and having them do things totally out of character.

Perhapse Black Templars will have a bro-mance with orks!


seriously though, be nice to see them updated...just hope Necrons/Sisters come first

You mean their Chapter master Bro-fists with some psyker.

Black Templar librarians!

Kroothawk wrote: And we have some 2 year old unreleased Tau models as well.

BT are obviously in the pipeline as are the other three. And personally I expect it to be a minor release with only a few new models, as they have an up to date plastic sprue and metal HQ.

This rumour poster puts the BT release later:

ghost21 wrote:From what I heard BT will be in the new starter box ala Black Reach, quickly followed by their dex, as I really don't collect marines I kinda usually skip those meetings.(...)
The order I heard was BT just after 6th.

Malakai wrote:Is there a rumour that BT are going to be in the 6th ed box?

Yup, with Daemons apparently (odd choice I thought).

Malakai wrote:How reliable is this rumour? I know that anything this far out is sketchy, but maybe on a scale of 1-10?

I'd give it a 7, but remember I don't usually pay attention to Marines. I'm a Chaos and Xeno guy, but I did hear there's a character who makes a certain Grey Knights character look tame...
Oh sisters codex ... shall we say nicest codex cover of the year?(...)

The "prototypes" that a few people saw were BT and Daemons. I only report what I see and hear.

Wasn't the starter box meant to be an affordable entry into the hobby? AoBR did that.
Now BT and demons don't seem to fill the cheap models spot in GW's lines.

Considering this rumor, BT are more anti-demon than GK? Their hate so pure they become immune against the warp? Male SoS?
Isn't a Close range oriented army without psykers a bad choice vs demons? ( lacking psychic blanks for now.)

Vladamyr wrote:

However, if BT i truly going to be in the 6th Starter Box.....I pray to any god that will listen that they write the Tau codex for 6th so they don't have the same issue they had on their last release....Tau!!! AWESOME!!!!! ........5th edi release....... wait what....

Its not the BlackTemplars fault. Tau were to be put into their place no matter which marine codex will follow. And there is always one out there to get you...

This is something I can really look forward to now. I hope to see some up to date plastics for them, they were the first ones with the upgrade kit, its not bad but not as good as the BA and SW kits. They have come a long way from their armageddon days (which I miss!).

As far as anyone saying why they need a codex for only being a 2nd founding? Ha...just read their fluff, you will understand.

1hadhq wrote:Its not the BlackTemplars fault. Tau were to be put into their place no matter which marine codex will follow. And there is always one out there to get you...

I am not blaming BTs, i was just stating that if they are slated to come out as 6th and that they are directly after Tau. That would mean Tau would be at the end of 5th edi. If its truly the one before they will prolly make their codex with that in mind. Where as for their last release, it was late into 4th but to soon before 5th for them to consider the BRB changes.

lol @ BT Libs!

Vladamyr wrote:

Tailgunner wrote:

dienekes96 wrote:The tears of the xenos players are delicious.

You are a very bad man...

I like Marines - I even liked the Stormraven (well, most of it). And I already have a BT army. But with the Grey Knights I've reached power armour saturation point. The models, which are largely excellent, don't prompt me to reach for my credit card, and the codex was over-written and, in many places, clumsy to the point of silliness. The level to which they have cranked up the special rules is also such that non-Marine players are justified in asking what is going on. So I would like to see a very long gap between the Grey Knights and the next Marine release (Sisters would be very welcome). I would love to see the Necrons get the kind of make-over that the DE got - a new Monolith model, some more big stuff, and plastic Wraiths and Immortals. Plus a codex full of fluff to give them more depth. Thats the kind of thing that WH40k needs.

I agree, Necrons, and Tau are in extreme need for fluff. I think that Necron, SoB, Tau, BT, seems extremely reasonable. However, if BT i truly going to be in the 6th Starter Box.....I pray to any god that will listen that they write the Tau codex for 6th so they don't have the same issue they had on their last release....Tau!!! AWESOME!!!!! ........5th edi release....... wait what....

I feel your pain *hides the robed green marines in darkness to let them continue their secret loving in secret*

If BT are in the starter though Tau in with them so they get an update asap would be good, also fits with their crusade splatting into Tau territory stuff. Old grudges die hard, and you thought dwarves were bad for it

so much for Jarvis promising everyone that every army would see a new codex before 6th edition.

Unfortunately the people above him say otherwise.

Hopefully if this pans out it will give the BT some decent elites (sword brethern more along the lines of the old wolf guard), but mainly I hope they fix the points issues and bring them back in line with the other marines... while the FAQ was not bad, could they at least have made it so that the BT don have th most expensive and under-equipped Rhino in the game???? A better FAQ fixing those issues and the BT could actually wait quite a bit longer before needing a new 'dex