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I think that its faith in the Greater Good and that the warp simply does not "See" them.

Also: "An open mind is like a fortress with is gates unbard and unguarded."

They have little to no warp signature and therefore are useless to demons, this means no link to the god's..... of any race. They just arent interesting to Chaos, maybe to CSM's that just want to impale everything on their back spikes but not to the god's who find Eldar and Humans much more important.

agnosto wrote:@darcloud92: Somewhat related. Are Orks immune because they're plants or because Gork and Mork are stronger than the Chaos Ghods?

In Ere We Go or Waaagh!: orks the rogue trader books, I forget, it has something about gork almost destroying nurgle and then getting bored before he finished the job.


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I have found a tau with possible chaos connections, the great farsight! I wouldn't have guessed that.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/O%27Shovah

I seem to remember reading that the reason that tau lack in psykers is because they don't warp travel, but warp "jump", warp "dive" or something the like. Maybe this lack of connection with the warp means they are harder to corrupt.


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NagothDaCleaver wrote: When was the last time you've read about Chaos corrupting an Eldar, Ork, Kroot, Tyranid?

Kroot have been corrupted. They are a gene stealing race who cannibalise their prey to gain aspects of the prey. When they cannibalise chaos marines or other heretics, mutants, the such, they, after a while become corrupted. Ref Lexicanum: kroot

Tyranids have the shadows in the warp to protect them.

Orks are incorruptible because of the fact that for them violence is not corruption, it is natural.

Hückleberry wrote:I remember reading somewhere that the etherals just showed up one day and took control of the different castes....seems very odd to me!

They didn't "just appear" one day, they stooped a huge civil war...They are a caste of elder and vise Tau leaders, they just stop fights, get leader to talk and shortly after - unite them.


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Miraclefish wrote:They're not incorruptible but they are very, very resilient to both the temptations offered by the Ruinous Powers and their Warp-spawned effects

I am sorry, but in Firre Warrior Severus tell that " Sadly Tau are resistant to Chaos, you have no psychic power. I thought I can use you - but I can't". And that's after holding Tau Etherial for hours...

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Brother Coa wrote:

Hückleberry wrote:I remember reading somewhere that the etherals just showed up one day and took control of the different castes....seems very odd to me!

They didn't "just appear" one day, they stooped a huge civil war...They are a caste of elder and vise Tau leaders, they just stop fights, get leader to talk and shortly after - unite them.

Please actually read Tau fluff first, it is clearly described that the Etherals just turned up out of no where during the caste wars and within Days ended a planet wide war. Each caste is unique in physical apperance and it is written in fluff that the other tau did not know of them at all.

zilegil wrote:I have found a tau with possible chaos connections, the great farsight! I wouldn't have guessed that.

He has been connected to so many theories with very little evidence to back any of them up.

zilegil wrote:I seem to remember reading that the reason that tau lack in psykers is because they don't warp travel, but warp "jump", warp "dive" or something the like. Maybe this lack of connection with the warp means they are harder to corrupt.

You have it the wrong way round, the tau do not properly travel through the warp due to the fact that they are not psykers. but as stated by everyone else, it is pretty obvious that having little impact on the warp means that the warp will have little impact on them.

NagothDaCleaver wrote: When was the last time you've read about Chaos corrupting an Eldar, Ork, Kroot, Tyranid?

Eldar - they hate chaos, and are constanly in a battle for their souls, so its not hard to see that chaos eldar are few and far between.
Ork - the natural psychic field that orks create usually protects them, but there has been fluff showing orks beeing corrupted (not turning to) by chaos, usually through misguided worship of chaos sites believing that they are dedicated to Gork or Mork.
Kroot - fluff clearly states that if kroot eat choas infused meat they will become corrupted, this is why shapers exist to stop the kroot consuming 'bad meat' such as chaos followers or tyranids
Tyranids - pretty much the same as orks, the hive mind protects them, but their has been examples of bio-organisms being infected and corrupted by chaos viruses. you must remember that a single tyranid is nothing more than a non-sentient animal, what use has it in worshipping a chaos god, when it doesn't even understand what worship is, or any other sociatal activity.

Because they aren't worth corrupting.

BluntmanDC wrote:
Please actually read Tau fluff first, it is clearly described that the Etherals just turned up out of no where during the caste wars and within Days ended a planet wide war. Each caste is unique in physical apperance and it is written in fluff that the other tau did not know of them at all.

And what have I said wrong?

In the begging there was a huge war between Tau living in plains, Tau living at rivers and between Tau living in mountains. Then in the hight of the war, Eherials showed up, negotiate peace and after that take control over all of Tau...

What here is not Tau fluff?

That is definitely Tau fluff, Coa.

I doubt that the Chaos Gods or the Daemons can really sense their presence in the warp, if you will, and have staked their victory on the corruption of the Human species. I am sure that they are susceptible to mutation, though there is no backround information that I know of.

Brother Coa wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:
Please actually read Tau fluff first, it is clearly described that the Etherals just turned up out of no where during the caste wars and within Days ended a planet wide war. Each caste is unique in physical apperance and it is written in fluff that the other tau did not know of them at all.

And what have I said wrong?

In the begging there was a huge war between Tau living in plains, Tau living at rivers and between Tau living in mountains. Then in the hight of the war, Eherials showed up, negotiate peace and after that take control over all of Tau...

What here is not Tau fluff?

And I quote your exact words "They didn't "just appear" one day, they stooped a huge civil war"


good back and read what you wrote!lol another poster said the ethreals came out of no where and you said they did not.
As a matter of fact the ethreals did appear from no where to get the tau to follow them, its a bit more complex then simple "negotiation"
the tau were mesmerized and put in awe by the ethreals. Take the way space marines or humans hold the Chapter masters and the Emperor in such high order and you have the same rate at which the tau regard the ethreals. So yes you got a very superficial basic understanding down, but not the whole meaning

Hawkward wrote:Remember, the Tau homeworld was wreathed in Warp storms for thousands of years. Any planet even within the line of sight of a visible Warp disruption gets affected by Chaos - you get side-effects like Cadian purple eyes, or a large number of psykers. Besides, even during the Great Crusade, when militant atheist human chauvinism was essentially required, the Chaos gods were still a viable threat to the Imperium. Also, Chaos feeds off of emotion, sensation, anarchy and stagnation, and all civilizations except the Tau feed it just by existing.

There's something special - or, to be precise, wrong - about the Tau. Anything that can't be affected by Chaos is suspect.

I remember the large warpstorm was one explanation for the Tau's rapid evolution, but other than that it doesn't seem to have affected them in any other way... that we know of.

Maybe the appearance of the Ethereals is caused by it too.

Tau can be corrupted by chaos... Not mentally but physically...

Let's say that a breakaway faction of the tau want to live the ways of close comvat, and start fighting with the worshippers of Khorne. They do not worship Khorne, only fight for him.

Kroothawk wrote:1.) There is no definite answer in the fluff.
2.) There seems to be a slight difference between ethereals and other Tau in this.
3.) The novel Fire Warrior is about a Daemon trying to corrupt Tau. He doesn't even see a chance with the ethereal, but he sees one in a million Tau to be emotional enough to crack him. In the end he doesn't even succeed with him, the exhausted Fire Warrior survives all attempts uncorrupted but broken.
4.) Xenology suggests the daring theory that Eldar manufactured the ethereals (adding the olphactory organ on the forehead) and send them to make the Tau "immune" to Chaos corruption. Never supported by any other book (and Xenology also features a Tau pic with feet instead of hooves).
5.) Tau have almost no presence in the warp, being low on emotions and having no psykers. So even if they were corruptable, it would be like searching for hard bread crumbs in a chocolate factory.

It may be that tau are super hard to corrupt because in their belief in their ideology "for the greater good"
and i don't know about that elder thing but it defiantly sounds like something the eldar would do

How Tau look like to the Chaos Gods.

sluggaslugga wrote:Tau can be corrupted by chaos... Not mentally but physically...

Let's say that a breakaway faction of the tau want to live the ways of close comvat, and start fighting with the worshippers of Khorne. They do not worship Khorne, only fight for him.

The Tau have a tiny presence in the warp, as a race and as single poeple, their actions do not feed the gods, as only beings with warp presence like humans feed the gods.

Jackster wrote:How Tau look like to the Chaos Gods.

perfect!

Because they aren't worth corrupting

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Holy_doctrine wrote: I doubt that the Chaos Gods or the Daemons can really sense their presence in the warp, if you will, and have staked their victory on the corruption of the Human species. I am sure that they are susceptible to mutation, though there is no backround information that I know of.

They can, but it's closer to say that Tau's soul is a single piece bland crustless white bread while a human soul is a bowl nice tasty pasta with an excellent sauce, and a psyker's soul is a huge intricately prepared feast worthy of a king.

So you can see why they ignore Tau. They just aren't worth the effort, much like the rest of hte universe's opinions on them.

BluntmanDC wrote:

sluggaslugga wrote:Tau can be corrupted by chaos... Not mentally but physically...

Let's say that a breakaway faction of the tau want to live the ways of close comvat, and start fighting with the worshippers of Khorne. They do not worship Khorne, only fight for him.

The Tau have a tiny presence in the warp, as a race and as single poeple, their actions do not feed the gods, as only beings with warp presence like humans feed the gods.

Why does chaos fight them then? Why not ignore them (unless they attack of course)

You misunderstood him. The actions of the Tau would never feed the Chaos Gods. However, a Chaos champion kills a Tau, he's still doing it in worship to his chosen deity. Khorne cares not from whence the blood flows, only that it flows.

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bthom37 wrote:I think the ethereals keep the negative emotions that feed chaos in check through their pheromones.

Chaos is not fed my negative emotions alone. They are also fed by positive ones. Slaanesh, for example, also feeds on happyness, love, and pleasure. Slaanesh is excess of feeling. Nurgle is both life and death. Well, rebirth more than life, but it's still possitive. Tzeentch is knowledge. Can you honestly tell me that the desire for knowledge is a negative thing?

Hmm, trying to remember the fluff - is it all 'strong' emotions, or 'excessive'? Either way, I do think that the Ethereals' pheromones do exert a 'calming influence' over the Tau, thus suppressing their attractiveness to the Chaos gods.

sluggaslugga wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:

sluggaslugga wrote:Tau can be corrupted by chaos... Not mentally but physically...

Let's say that a breakaway faction of the tau want to live the ways of close comvat, and start fighting with the worshippers of Khorne. They do not worship Khorne, only fight for him.

The Tau have a tiny presence in the warp, as a race and as single poeple, their actions do not feed the gods, as only beings with warp presence like humans feed the gods.

Why does chaos fight them then? Why not ignore them (unless they attack of course)

Sometimes they are just in the way.

the obliterator virus might be compatible with tau tech and i dont think nurgles diseases would stop at the tau border.

their MENTALLY uncorruptable to chaos, but a tau dragged into the warp would mutate like every other being... or so i think. mind there are no facts to underline any of that.

sluggaslugga wrote:

BluntmanDC wrote:

sluggaslugga wrote:Tau can be corrupted by chaos... Not mentally but physically...

Let's say that a breakaway faction of the tau want to live the ways of close comvat, and start fighting with the worshippers of Khorne. They do not worship Khorne, only fight for him.

The Tau have a tiny presence in the warp, as a race and as single poeple, their actions do not feed the gods, as only beings with warp presence like humans feed the gods.

Why does chaos fight them then? Why not ignore them (unless they attack of course)

Skulls for Khornes throne are just that.... skulls for Khorne's throne.

Potential carriers of various pestilence are of at least SOME use to Nurgle.

Beings that take any pleasure in anything can attract slaanesh and make him think "Hey! let my perverse deamons show you how to use that thing you got there!".

Also Tzeentch can use them as pawns to play a part in his master plan, not through direct control but through manipulation and stimulus.

Sothas wrote:Yeah, and most people can agree that the IoM ideology is bass ackwards as far as technology goes. It's like the Holy Roman Church burning "heretical" technology. That doesn't make the persuit of knowledge bad, just heretical in the eyes of the IoM.

I know what you mean, it is as though they are frightened of technology which makes no sense whatsoever.


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tarnish wrote:the obliterator virus might be compatible with tau tech and i dont think nurgles diseases would stop at the tau border.

their MENTALLY uncorruptable to chaos, but a tau dragged into the warp would mutate like every other being... or so i think. mind there are no facts to underline any of that.

If exposed to the warp they will corrupt eventualy that is the power of chaos. The only way they wouldn't is if they were for some reason (probely through physcic protection) incorruptible.


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there isn't really much tau fluff is there and the codex barely says anything


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Interesting

The reason they are not corrupted by Chaos is that they are too insignificant for Chaos to bother with

The Tau are just too dedicated to the Greater Good.
Besides, there arent any Tau Psykers, are they? (anyways, I never heard of 1)

BluntmanDC wrote:

Kroot - fluff clearly states that if kroot eat choas infused meat they will become corrupted, this is why shapers exist to stop the kroot consuming 'bad meat' such as chaos followers or tyranids

True, strange that I had forgotten about that.

Example of corrupted Tau in Black library book, "Black Tide" by James Swallow

crazyK wrote:Example of corrupted Tau in Black library book, "Black Tide" by James Swallow

Spoiler:

The Blood Angels in pursuit of Fabius Bile find a colony of corrupted Tau that were experiemented on. The main character for the Blood Angels, Rafen, notes the savagery the corrupted Tau fight with. Fabius Bile had done many experiments on the Tau of this colony and many of them had grafted on daemonic limbs.

Being forcefully modified by Fabius Bile isn't really the same as being corrupted by Chaos. I guess it is in a very literal sense, but it's not the kind of corruption being discussed here.

I can't remember if it was 3rd or 4th ed Tau codex, but I believe it's alluded that Farsight's ethereal was killed. He also never turns on Tau, and doesn't actively purpsue corruption or challenges to them. It's pretty explicit that he's seen the galaxy, and is ardently hunting the enemies of Tau. Which, if he were fallen to Chaos the typical MO would be to muck about with his fellow Tau (which he seems to be ardently opposed to).

Ethereals don't have god like mind control. They can be resisted and ignored. In fact, until Shadowsun blows up Farsight's statue there appeared to be a possible rebellion against the ethereals brewing (and some of the Fire caste are still not happy with her or the abandonment of Farsight). Rather you could see them as highly revered leaders. They can be disobeyed, but it's highly unlikely as the culture and mindset has bread the Tau to see them as saviours.

I actually really rather like that Tau aren't susceptible to Chaos. It makes them different in 40k.