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Are they really that bad with no upgrades? Just moving and running a base dreadknight seems like it could work. That is a very good deal for what you are paying.

It's not that they are bad, it can just be tough to get them into attack position when they are foot slogging along. It's extremely difficult to get them any form of cover, so if strong shots come your way, you're forced to rely on a 5+ save. Deep striking them in can help fix that

omerakk wrote:It's not that they are bad, it can just be tough to get them into attack position when they are foot slogging along. It's extremely difficult to get them any form of cover, so if strong shots come your way, you're forced to rely on a 5+ save. Deep striking them in can help fix that

I hate how ever time GW brings out a new model they go on and on about how HUGE! it is. Message to GW: In your games, huge is a bad thing.

Other than that, when I saw they could only take one of each weapon the first thought was "well that makes them next to useless"

Noisy_Marine wrote:And here I thought a psyrifleman was a dreadknight with dual heavy psycannons.

And wow, a teleporter on a dreadknight costs more than wings on a demon prince (in the demon codex anyway).

Are the DK's useless without teleporters? If so why make teleporters so expensive?

Teleporters are better than wings because they are just like wings except they also let you Teleport!
The DK is also arguably better than a DP, with higher str, T, better save and can take more shooting weapons.

DKs are not useless without teleporters, they just are not nearly as good. The big difference in usefulness is why their is a big cost difference. Lascannons are better than Missile launchers because they are better.


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DarknessEternal wrote:By buying zero upgrades, not even the teleporter.

For 130 points, they're insanely good.

yup, naked is probably best.


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Guaiwu wrote:
I hate how ever time GW brings out a new model they go on and on about how HUGE! it is. Message to GW: In your games, huge is a bad thing.
Other than that, when I saw they could only take one of each weapon the first thought was "well that makes them next to useless"

I really hope the new DE venom is not "HUGE" The whole point of it was supposed to be that is could hide behind raiders to avoid getting shot.

The way things are going it will be bigger than the raider and cost $45.