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**col. krazy kenny**

Oopps error,Wi fi crashed.

**col. krazy kenny**

Most excellent,about time.Now the Rhinox are going to affordible.I can not wait for the Big Kit.Here is a pik of my wip Tyrant mounted on a Rhinox.

**Kroothawk**

ghost21 confirmed that the Rhinox of the scrap loader is indead a baby Rhinox and that the mounts are bigger.

**RiTides**

It's funny how big the "baby" rhinox is. Here's a wip I'm doing for my WoC (counts-as juggernaut):

And it doesn't hold a candle to the big fella above... however, if I had to guess I'm expecting any new GW ones to be smaller than their current FW counterparts. Those things are behemoths...

**Asuron**

I only hope that the battalion doesn't increase dramatically like the Tomb Kings one

Im so afraid it will, that I might actually get stuff now even though I won't start them for a long time, just to be safe

Although i'm laughing picturing ogres on a chariot,
that would be hilarious

**Surtur**

Kroot, was there anything a little more solid on Gut Magic? is it just going to be changed into a Lore or what exactly?

**Kroothawk**

Not yet. The Warseer thread was closed because some posters were off topic. Naughty naughty, no dinner!

**Cerebrium**

I'll miss Gut Magic in it's current form, to be honest.

**terarmt**

Pretty much all monstrous infantry have M6... it is scary, though!

**Izeya82**

Lame I got rid of all my Ogres lol. Oh well hopefully start seeing them around now

**Kroothawk**

Some updates from Warseer:

Vepr wrote:Wintermute has graciously allowed me to open another thread for Ogres rumors.

ghost21 wrote:Ogres will have new weapon options

GodlessM wrote:I can back the rumours of plastic Yhetees, Scraplauncher (this is the platform thingy), and Rhinox Riders are the plastic kits from my own sources.

Harry wrote:
silks wrote:Harry did clarify on the Ogre Stronghold that he liked the pun rather than saying it would definitely be October.

Yes ... couldn't resist.
But I am sure they are the next full army release. (with a book, etc.)

Given the waves of stuff that are coming before them as time goes on I can't see them coming any sooner
... but then I was surprised when TK turned up a couple of months before I was expecting them.

ferrus wrote:I heard rumours of plastic Rhinox cavalry.

Me too.

Darnok wrote:Birdy time.

Ogres gain resilience through improved save, not sure if its a 6+ scaly skin or a 6+ regen. Fluff has to do with their layers of fat/gut
Ogre magic augment spells will no longer be remains in play, expect magic to be in line with all other lores, butchers/slaugthermasters may loose loremaster
Ogre ironguts go to strength 5, will have option to take a great weapon or a cls
Rhinox riders are in the list officially
Maneaters may gain the ability to improve their stats to reflect their worldly experience, unit may choose one: +1 bs, +1 ws, +1T or terror.
Leadbelchers receive normal cannons, move or fire. So can shoot normal cannon ball (D3 wounds) or grapeshot.
Restrictions for gnoblars and scraplaunchers are gone
Bignames no longer count towards magic item allowance

My personal opinion on this: some things sound plausible, some I have heard/read before, and some I would take with a bit of salt. But I appreciate them nonetheless.

**Anung Un Rama**

The one thing that I disliked the most about the Ogre Kingdoms is their fluff. Even by GW standards it's ridicously gory.

Looking forward to it though. Not that I plan on playing Fantasy any time soon, but some new rules might give me some ideas for my Ogre Pirate army.

**RiTides**

Excellent update, thanks!

**kenshin620**

Kroothawk wrote:
Ogre magic augment spells will no longer be remains in play, expect magic to be in line with all other lores, butchers/slaugthermasters may loose loremaster

To the bomb shelter!

**fullheadofhair**

Leadbelchers receive normal cannons, move or fire. So can shoot normal cannon ball (D3 wounds) or grapeshot.

As an OK player, this is a ridiculous overpowering change - a unit ogres with cannons has all the benefits of war machines but no drawbacks. Even if charged they can still mop up what charges them after grapeshot, and if a large unit charges them then the OK player deserves to lose letting such a large unit get that close.

Have to go up in points quite substantially for this to be true.

**DukeRustfield**

I agree, unless it's still a 1 turn uninterrupted to reload or such. I'm excited, still.

**LunaHound**

Stock up the battalion box guys :3

**A Black Ram**

They BETTER allow slaughtermasters to be generals.

And if it's not a gory mess of a book- I'm not buying it!

**Clang**

derek wrote:I must be having one of those days. On the first read through I read Slave Giants as Slave Girls, and it wasn't til I read more carefully and came to the mount option line did I glance back and realize my mistake.

I was hoping for Slave Girl Giants

And I reckon ogre chariots should be drawn by ogres instead of beasts. Probably won't happen though...

**Mr Mystery**

Worth noting that the lack of finecast for Ogres also backs this up. Only other army with no finecast is Necrons, so I guess that's likely August and September wrapped up?

**jamesterjlrb**

Worth noting sisters haven't got any finecast either and to the best of my knowledge September is a "special release" along the lines of Space Hulk. November has nothing in although some have said crons will be pushed back to early 2012, with sisters, november and ogres october, or vice versa. Although Crons and sisters may be switched. All in all no one really knows... and those that do can't tell.

**agnosto**

fullheadofhair wrote:
Leadbelchers receive normal cannons, move or fire. So can shoot normal cannon ball (D3 wounds) or grapeshot.

As an OK player, this is a ridiculous overpowering change - a unit ogres with cannons has all the benefits of war machines but no drawbacks. Even if charged they can still mop up what charges them after grapeshot, and if a large unit charges them then the OK player deserves to lose letting such a large unit get that close.

Have to go up in points quite substantially for this to be true.

Yeah, T4 and 3 wounds...much easier to kill than a cannon.

**chaos0xomega**

Need to get me more OK battalions then... oh, wait, I already have three :3

Can't wait for Octogre!

**agnosto**

If my 30 bulls aren't enough, I don't need more.

**RiTides**

If leadbelchers are going to be good... definitely get the Battalion box before the book release / model updates. They're the only reason you might consider not getting it with their current rules, but it's a great deal even without them. With them being good... it's by far the best deal in fantasy.

**Murdock129**

Really looking forward to possible plastic Rhinox Riders and resin Yhetees, it's price that has stopped me getting both, and for once their likely to be cheaper when remade

**Chibi Bodge-Battle**

I look forward to telling a ten year old that his recent purchase of the Army Book will be obsolete in a few months time.
Am sure his parents will be chuffed.

The current models look pretty good to me. Don't feel they would need a massive makeover.

**BrassScorpion**

RiTides wrote:If leadbelchers are going to be good... definitely get the Battalion box before the book release / model updates. They're the only reason you might consider not getting it with their current rules, but it's a great deal even without them. With them being good... it's by far the best deal in fantasy.

I stashed away 2 Battalions I got from The War Store last year knowing that amazing deal likely wouldn't survive at that level price break at the next price increase. Two Ogre Battalions for $72 each, that's like getting the model sets separately at about half price. And I recently found another box of Ogre Bulls on eBay for $25 flat. When the army is revised all I'll need is a couple of the best cool new models plus the new army book from my local game shops and I'm ready to go.

**chaos0xomega**

BrassScorpion wrote:
RiTides wrote:If leadbelchers are going to be good... definitely get the Battalion box before the book release / model updates. They're the only reason you might consider not getting it with their current rules, but it's a great deal even without them. With them being good... it's by far the best deal in fantasy.
I stashed away 2 Battalions I got from The War Store last year knowing that amazing deal likely wouldn't survive at that level price break at the next price increase. Two Ogre Battalions for $72 each, that's like getting the model sets separately at about half price. And I recently found another box of Ogre Bulls on eBay for $25 flat. When the army is revised all I'll need is a couple of the best cool new models plus the new army book from my local game shops and I'm ready to go.

Try my first for 72, second for 50, third for 20... all new and unopened.

**Mr Mystery**

Hehehe. I do love the Ogre Batallion.

Got a free one last year, and the second half price. Was good to be staff! Cheapest army I ever built, and they are well hard in a horde!