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I was thinking more along the lines of weapons around S8 that are assault 2 and thus similar to the cyclone missile launcher.

Frankly twin-linking heavy guns that are carried by infantry kindof smacks of OP to me. Doubly so if the unit's BS is above 3. BS 4-5 models don't need twinlinked everything.

Ascalam wrote:Frankly twin-linking heavy guns that are carried by infantry kindof smacks of OP to me. Doubly so if the unit's BS is above 3. BS 4-5 models don't need twinlinked everything.

So ASSAULT 2 TL S8 would be truly overpowered.

Well, yeah..

Unless it had pitiful range, was on a BS 2 model and/or cost a lot of points it would be a bit cheesy.

If it's on a BS 4+ model it would be a LOT cheesy regardless...

A lot would depend on the points cost for the model, and how good a shot it is (BS). Also how survivable the model is.

A 1 wound, T 3 guy with a gun like that is not the same as a TH/SS termie with a missile rack addon with that statline.

So would a TL Rokkit Assault 1 or Rokkit Assault 2 on an BS 2 W 1 Sv 6+ (i.e., an Ork) be cheesy/overpowered?

(Hell, I should have just asked that, and asked it in the Proposed Rules forum!)

Well it's not twin linked, but all those meganobs can take combi rokkits, which is an assault 1 rokkit.

juraigamer wrote:Well it's not twin linked, but all those meganobs can take combi rokkits, which is an assault 1 rokkit.

Yep, all Ork rokkits are Assault 1 currently.

thunderingjove wrote:

Ascalam wrote:Frankly twin-linking heavy guns that are carried by infantry kindof smacks of OP to me. Doubly so if the unit's BS is above 3. BS 4-5 models don't need twinlinked everything.

So ASSAULT 2 TL S8 would be truly overpowered.

That's the profile of a Psyfleman Dread's guns. So you should ask yourself: would an infantry unit toting around one of the psyfleman autocannons be overpowered? (The answer is yes.)

thunderingjove wrote:So would a TL Rokkit Assault 1 or Rokkit Assault 2 on an BS 2 W 1 Sv 6+ (i.e., an Ork) be cheesy/overpowered?

(Hell, I should have just asked that, and asked it in the Proposed Rules forum!)

I would have no issue with it, given orkish accuracy, for a points bump over the regular rokkit launcher. Bit of a Bruteshot fan

Say +15 pts instead of +5, based on the mek upgrade?

Bruteshot?

Halo reference- Rapid firing but inaccurate rokkit launcha carried by Brutes (much like fuzzy ork Nobz )

Ascalam wrote:Halo reference- Rapid firing but inaccurate rokkit launcha carried by Brutes (much like fuzzy ork Nobz )

Ah, gotcha. Well done. I'm probably the only 40K-er who doesn't play video games.

Brother SRM wrote:You can buy a twin linked shoota for an Ork warboss, and I'm pretty sure Nobz can buy them too.

And meganobz come with them.

I don't play much these days, due to kids hogging the TV. My gaming time is now painting time

Good thing too, as my orks keep spawning every time i look away

Just having a hard time picturing a twin-linked rokkit launcha. The single-launcha looks hard enough for them to carry as-is.

Hm... Perhaps some sort of Loota-like harness with a rocket launcher above and below each other, with a couple of Boyz modelled as loaders. (Grots aren't tall enough to help.)

Or maybe just two rokkit launchas duct-taped together pointing in opposite directions. He fires one, flips it around, his loader loads in a rokkit in the empty one, rinse and repeat.

Good points here. They got my creative juices running. How about a rokkit launcha with one missile but two warheads!

Look at the Tankbusta Nob's launcher. 2 rokkits in an Over and Under configuration. Fire them together and it's twin-linked..

The flipstick launcher would make an awesome onversion though. I have one tankbuster shotputting rokkits..

thunderingjove wrote:Good points here. They got my creative juices running. How about a rokkit launcha with one missile but two warheads!

Ooh! Kinda like that one anti-tank weapon I saw somewhere on TV. One missile that releases three smaller missiles, of which at least two should hit, and together will kill a tank.

Ascalam brings up a good point with the tankbusta nob. Incidentally, tonight I learned that the newest tankbusta minis were metal, because now they're finecast. I thought they were plastic, since I've only seen them on the GW site, and their price didn't clue me in at all.

Also, check out that one with the rokkit pistols. Another good way to get a twin-linked rokkit launcha, since there's some precedent with Seraphim - and I'm sure others - dual-wielding pistols and having them count as one twin-linked weapon.

purplefood wrote:Heavy 2 that effectively becomes Assault 2...
I don't think there are any Assault missile launchers...
Though some xenos weaponry is fairly close IIRC... though i couldn't tell you which ones i'm afriand.

Tau missile pod. assault 2 infantry weapon.

And gun drones are basic units with TL PC.

Twinlinking seems oversimplified to me. It should have some damage aspect to it as well.

Movac wrote:Twinlinking seems oversimplified to me. It should have some damage aspect to it as well.

I know right?

Many CSM champions can upgrade their bolter to a twin-linked bolter for a cheap price, but I don't think anyone takes the upgrade, since a combi-weapon offers more bang.

The chaos havoc launcher is also a twin-linked blast, which is nice. And Obliterators can fire flamers, plasma rifles and meltaguns as twin-linked.