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I think people deserve a fair shake but abusing that gets irritating. I like this quote:

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life."
Winston Churchill

Best way to act is to do the best you know how and if you are worried about appearing racist, too late, you are.

Favorite saying is "Love everyone, trust no-one". No-win for this thread. Thanks.

Wow. This thread is depressing. That guy with the Pearl Harbor comment needs a punch in the face.

That video with the girl was so obviously a troll that it was no problem, though.

depressing? meh,kinda. it was originally made for laughs (sorta) if you look.

Albatross wrote:'Saw a black man buying sushi today. Not trying to be racist, but that's weird, right?'



Also, you spelled 'racist' incorrectly in the thread title.

Im going to be called a racist for saying this i just know it.

Would it be even more weird if they were sipping tea with pinky finger extended?

LunaHound wrote:

Albatross wrote:'Saw a black man buying sushi today. Not trying to be racist, but that's weird, right?'



Also, you spelled 'racist' incorrectly in the thread title.

Im going to be called a racist for saying this i just know it.

Would it be even more weird if they were sipping tea with pinky finger extended?

That's weird for anyone...

purplefood wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

Albatross wrote:'Saw a black man buying sushi today. Not trying to be racist, but that's weird, right?'



Also, you spelled 'racist' incorrectly in the thread title.

Im going to be called a racist for saying this i just know it.

Would it be even more weird if they were sipping tea with pinky finger extended?

That's weird for anyone...

agreed...

KingCracker wrote:You ever wonder why racists make no sense? Its because racism doesnt make sense, so anyone that believes in that logic doesnt make sense for that very reason.

Yeah, I think one of the big problems is that when people say racist things they're told they shouldn't say them because they're offensive. Being the sort of thing you're not supposed to say gives it an edge, it attracts the feel of truth because it's suppressed.

When really, you shouldn't say those kinds of things because they're stupid. When people say these things the response shouldn't be 'Don't say that because it offends people', it should be 'Don't say that because it's stupid. Stop being stupid.'


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Talizvar wrote:I think people deserve a fair shake but abusing that gets irritating. I like this quote:

"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life."
Winston Churchill

Yeah, this is what I mean. Here he's taken the idea that he's caused offense as some kind of indirect proof that his comments had some kind of meaning.

I have no idea what your comments were, but the fact they offended someone is not proof they either were or weren't valid.

sebster wrote:

KingCracker wrote:You ever wonder why racists make no sense? Its because racism doesnt make sense, so anyone that believes in that logic doesnt make sense for that very reason.

Yeah, I think one of the big problems is that when people say racist things they're told they shouldn't say them because they're offensive. Being the sort of thing you're not supposed to say gives it an edge, it attracts the feel of truth because it's suppressed.

When really, you shouldn't say those kinds of things because they're stupid. When people say these things the response shouldn't be 'Don't say that because it offends people', it should be 'Don't say that because it's stupid. Stop being stupid.'

That's my general reaction.
Though if you don't want to offend someone you shouldn't be using offensive language or implying something offensive...

More or less racist than "Things White People Like"?

Anyway, I may not be a racist, but I saw a geeky white kid in the R&B section.

That's weird, right?

biccat wrote:More or less racist than "Things White People Like"?

Anyway, I may not be a racist, but I saw a geeky white kid in the R&B section.

That's weird, right?

Not trying to be racist or anything, but.... Karon.


That's weird, right?




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Incidentally, the only person making racist comments in this thread is Lunahound.

That's interesting.

"Stuff White People Like" is awesome.

Polonius wrote:"Stuff White People Like" is awesome.

i dont know...white people like some crazey a** s***....

Hey, I spend more each week on imported cheese and liquor than the average afghan spends total. You don't' need to tell me.

Polonius wrote:Hey, I spend more each week on imported cheese and liquor than the average afghan spends total. You don't' need to tell me.

oookay.... i err....like cheese?

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Polonius wrote:Hey, I spend more each week on imported cheese and liquor than the average afghan spends total. You don't' need to tell me.

oookay.... i err....like cheese?

I'm just saying, while I'm not a full blown Brooklyn hipster, I fit a lot of the stereotypes in Stuff White People Like.

is stuff white people like a tv show or something? cause thats the vibe im getting....i just meant white people in general either way.brooklyn or not,white people buy strange and freaky s****....

lord commissar klimino wrote:is stuff white people like a tv show or something? cause thats the vibe im getting....i just meant white people in general either way.brooklyn or not,white people buy strange and freaky s****....

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

I have never been more ashamed of America when I was reading YouTube comments of the Tsunami videos. I simply could not believe was I was seeing. Maybe they weren't raised properly, but surely there is a point where common sense takes over? I guess not.

Polonius wrote:
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

ah...i dont like lots of that stuff

Goddard wrote:I have never been more ashamed of America when I was reading YouTube comments of the Tsunami videos. I simply could not believe was I was seeing. Maybe they weren't raised properly, but surely there is a point where common sense takes over? I guess not.

its America,most of us lost are common sense before we ever used it.

My favorite 'not to be racist' moment came when I was playing Bad Company 2 online.

Two guys were discussing politics and one of them said "Not to be racist or anything, but I don't want a N-word as president."

Speaking about reparations my friends and I have worked something out. We decided that both sides lost something and seeing as though I had ancestors fighting for the Union I got off easy with $1.50. He really wanted that soda.

biccat wrote:More or less racist than "Things White People Like"?

Anyway, I may not be a racist, but I saw a geeky white kid in the R&B section.

That's weird, right?

There's a difference between observing a general trend among a group and assigning that trend to every individual in that group.

It is not racist to notice that black people are vastly overrepresented among the ranks of professional basketball players, relative to their proportion of the population. It is racist to assume that because someone is black they must be good at basketball.

That's one of the ways in which racism needs to be explained as being something which isn't bad because it's offensive, but bad because it is stupid.

Polonius wrote:
I'm just saying, while I'm not a full blown Brooklyn hipster, I fit a lot of the stereotypes in Stuff White People Like.

My only beef with it is that it is, as you've sort of alluded to, more like "Stuff hipsters like" than "Stuff white people like."

Also, "irony" is on the list, and it doesn't belong there, hipsters don't like irony, they like pretending they know what irony is.

If I understand the term "hipster" correctly from this Wiki article it means people who emulate a bohemian lifestyle by buying the correct accessories, though in fact being middle class, boring and untalented artistically.

Polonius wrote:http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

I'm not racist, but you whiteys...

Polonius wrote:"Stuff White People Like" is awesome.

It is also some of the most clever satire I have ever read and is not based upon "white people" in general, just a socio-political demographic in the USA.

One of my favourites though is #8, Obama:
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/19/8-barack-obama/

I'm not racist...

I hate everyone equally, regardless of skin colour, nationality, sexual orientation or creed!

Nope
Don't get the Whitestuff thing.
Sorry I must be a humourless hummus eating white person

Hummus is tasty, nutrious and as a vegetarian a useful part of the diet.
Wait... Vegetarian: White person, oh dear how very white of me.

sebster wrote:

biccat wrote:More or less racist than "Things White People Like"?

Anyway, I may not be a racist, but I saw a geeky white kid in the R&B section.

That's weird, right?

There's a difference between observing a general trend among a group and assigning that trend to every individual in that group.

It is not racist to notice that black people are vastly overrepresented among the ranks of professional basketball players, relative to their proportion of the population. It is racist to assume that because someone is black they must be good at basketball.

That's one of the ways in which racism needs to be explained as being something which isn't bad because it's offensive, but bad because it is stupid.

Even if you hold that certain traits are more common in certain races, it's not a problem unless it leads to discrimination. So, saying that black people are better at playing basketball, or more likley to be good, isn't really harmful. Saying that black people are better players, but white people make better coaches, is discriminatory.


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dogma wrote:

Polonius wrote:
I'm just saying, while I'm not a full blown Brooklyn hipster, I fit a lot of the stereotypes in Stuff White People Like.

My only beef with it is that it is, as you've sort of alluded to, more like "Stuff hipsters like" than "Stuff white people like."

Also, "irony" is on the list, and it doesn't belong there, hipsters don't like irony, they like pretending they know what irony is.

I get the feeling that the original blog was founded in an area that was gentrifying, and so the hipsters were white, while the older residents were not.

Polonius wrote:

sebster wrote:

biccat wrote:More or less racist than "Things White People Like"?

Anyway, I may not be a racist, but I saw a geeky white kid in the R&B section.

That's weird, right?

There's a difference between observing a general trend among a group and assigning that trend to every individual in that group.

It is not racist to notice that black people are vastly overrepresented among the ranks of professional basketball players, relative to their proportion of the population. It is racist to assume that because someone is black they must be good at basketball.

That's one of the ways in which racism needs to be explained as being something which isn't bad because it's offensive, but bad because it is stupid.

Even if you hold that certain traits are more common in certain races, it's not a problem unless it leads to discrimination. So, saying that black people are better at playing basketball, or more likley to be good, isn't really harmful. Saying that black people are better players, but white people make better coaches, is discriminatory.

There's a valid argument to be made that beneficial discrimination is also a bad thing. For example, a college administrator saying "Asians are better at math, so we'll admit more Asians into our mathematics college" is beneficial discrimination, but is also wrong. And may be harmful both to the group benefitted and the groups who suffer as a result of the benefit.

I recall a news story when I was in college asking whether baseball programs were "failing black students" because so few blacks were involved in college baseball. The authors completely ignored the prevalance of black players in both football and basketball programs.

In my (entirely unscientific) opinion, the racial disparity in sports (or positions in sports, see e.g. quarterbacks vs. running backs) is based on cultural differences more than racial differences. Blacks aren't universally better than whites at basketball, rather basketball is popular in inner-city areas where blacks have a high relative population. This leads to an inner-city type culture in teams (college and professional) which suburban white kids are less likely to adapt to.

There are probably some socio-economic aspects as well. Suburban white kids are happy to take the "safe" road of a college degree + office job while urban black kids are willing to risk it all (a crappy manual labor job) for a chance at a professional sports career.

halonachos wrote:My favorite 'not to be racist' moment came when I was playing Bad Company 2 online.

Two guys were discussing politics and one of them said "Not to be racist or anything, but I don't want a N-word as president."

Speaking about reparations my friends and I have worked something out. We decided that both sides lost something and seeing as though I had ancestors fighting for the Union I got off easy with $1.50. He really wanted that soda.

Me and my friends did something similar...