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2011/06/18 23:19:06
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
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2011/06/18 23:28:35
Subject: Re:When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
I think Tolkien came up with orcs. They did not exist before he wrote them. That's why it's quite reasonable that most of us have first heard of them through Tolkien's works. Well, the word itself might be quite old, but the orcs as we know them are creation of JRRT.
I think I knew there were these "orcs" before I actually read the Hobbit or LotR, but I am not sure where I heard it the first time. It must've been somewhere around 1980 or so.
Btw, as a child, my favourite Tolkien-based book was the Tolkien Bestiary! LotR had quite complicated plot for my liking and it was so goddamned long. The Hobbit was more fun, too. A while later I was introduced to D&D and it was like the Bestiary with stats! Mind was blown.
2011/06/19 00:51:21
Subject: Re:When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
Jani wrote:I think Tolkien came up with orcs. They did not exist before he wrote them. That's why it's quite reasonable that most of us have first heard of them through Tolkien's works. Well, the word itself might be quite old, but the orcs as we know them are creation of JRRT.
I think I knew there were these "orcs" before I actually read the Hobbit or LotR, but I am not sure where I heard it the first time. It must've been somewhere around 1980 or so.
Btw, as a child, my favourite Tolkien-based book was the Tolkien Bestiary! LotR had quite complicated plot for my liking and it was so goddamned long. The Hobbit was more fun, too. A while later I was introduced to D&D and it was like the Bestiary with stats! Mind was blown.
Tolkien deserves the credit for the modern conception. The word apparently existed, but the concept of orcs as a species of humanoids (typically with an emphasis on muscle with ugly faces) is all Tolkien.
I actually find it interesting that so many people still recognize the originator of the idea as their first encounter. If you were to ask where most people first heard of power armor, Starship Troopers would not likely appear all that often I think.
I think either the Hobbit or actually Games Workshop Orcs and Goblins I got into Warhammer about the same time as I read the hobbit so its kinda a toss up.
2011/06/19 14:58:11
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
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Technically the Hobbit, but as my dad used to read that to me in bed when I was young, I think it's fair to say that the Fighting Fantasy books were what made me appreciate/understand what they actually were.
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2011/06/20 09:11:44
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
I would have to say from playing Warcraft back around 1998(I was just a wee little 10 year old kid). Then my next exposure was when I first heard of 40K in 99-2000. Then Baldurs Gate, LOTR, and D&D.
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2011/06/22 18:36:07
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
People talking about the LotR films that I wasn't allowed to go and see because I wasn't old enough and had parents who were seemingly in the minority when it came to abiding by age ratings.
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2011/06/27 00:00:23
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
I actually had some plastic orcs that came with as cardboard castle when I was 5, I just called them pigmen because they were not identified on the box.
Wasnt Venger the Dungeon Master's son?
My first encounter with "orcs" was LotR, but the idea of them was perpetuated by WFB and Warcraft.
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2011/06/27 05:01:44
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
MeanGreenStompa wrote:My father read The Hobbit to my brother and I. I was 4 I think.
This. I was a little older, maybe. Although mine may have read it to us earlier than I can actually remember. Apparently he took me along to Star Wars or Empire as well, and I was an infant.
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:My father read The Hobbit to my brother and I. I was 4 I think.
This. I was a little older, maybe.
Same here. My mum did all the voices. That, plus Heroquest.
He also had a box set of records of the BBC radio version of the Lord of the Rings which we listened to as kids, that was amazing but unfortunately was stolen (lent to a cousin of mine who sold it for drugs...). When I was 7, he gave me his old Lord of the Rings books which I read and reread many times, I always remembered how I disliked the covers and considered them too plain but I like them now. The covers were by Tolkien himself.
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2011/06/27 14:11:38
Subject: When was the first time you heard about 'Orcs'?
I have that set, though in much worse condition as my dad re-read it many times in his youth.
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