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I probably won't get to see it till it's on DVD or even cable. My GF has all the DVDs and we're planning to do a marathon when she finally gets them all. I haven't even seen the last 2 or 3 movies but I know the whole story thanks to all the nerds at work talking about the books.

nerds is such a strong word...i prefer "person with individual tendencies and hobbies"

Hopefully going to see it on Tuesday, after not making it to see the last two at the cinema.

I like the books, and have in general liked the films, even if I have lamented on more than one occasion how much good stuff has been missing on the big screen.

Some ladies at work went to it last night (Midnight Showing). I'm told they were willing to beat the crap out of any kids who stood in their way, saying "I've been reading these books since before you were born!"

i really wished that i was an inquisitor during that movie, i would have called an exterminatus on everyone in that theater. because everyone else in the theater was always clapping and shouting and making stupid HP comments. I love the books and movies, but people need to be more respectful of others who also purchased tickets.

at the beginning of the movie, two fans dressed as voldemort and harry went to the front of the theater and had a duel...

We had a harry/voldemort duel at ours too..lots of people in costume. I was really pleased though with everyone's in-movie behavior. Most of the midnight showings I've been to have been pretty rowdy, but this one was almost dead silent the entire time, everyone just totally absorbed in the film.

I quite enjoyed it.

Zefig wrote:We had a harry/voldemort duel at ours too..lots of people in costume. I was really pleased though with everyone's in-movie behavior. Most of the midnight showings I've been to have been pretty rowdy, but this one was almost dead silent the entire time, everyone just totally absorbed in the film.

I quite enjoyed it.

lucky...i wish my theater wasnt full of people who make me and want them to be

I know the general story to the point of Harry is a Wizard and used to live in a cupboard.

I saw the trailer for the the second part a while ago and thought it looked awesome. So I chose to watch the first part.

Big mistake.

I won't be seeing this anytime soon.

Very NSFW, Strong Language.

I'll go see it, but I will wait a week or two...

was just thinking, in HP, they play wizards chess where the pieces come to life and actually fight and destroy eachother. I wish 40k was like that...that would be SO LEGENDARY!!!

dajobe wrote:was just thinking, in HP, they play wizards chess where the pieces come to life and actually fight and destroy eachother. I wish 40k was like that...that would be SO LEGENDARY!!!

I really wouldn't want a Nurgle/Slaanesh piece coming to life on my table.

Just saying.

biccat wrote:

Harry Potter is a bit of an insufferable ****

Most of the non-teacher cast as insufferable ****, the entire series seems so Mary-Sue hero, like they all win, all the time, and despite not for one moment ever studying, or even turning up for classes, they still pass with flying colours...

With special mention to Hermione and Malfoy, the main characters are all a bunch of snotty brats who irritate me no end.


Am I seriously the only person who does not give a expletive about Harry Potter, books, films, the whole bloated-and-forced-down-our-throats-by-WB-at-every-opportunity-franchise? because right now all my facebook news feed seems to be populated with are harry potter based stati

malfred wrote:

dajobe wrote:was just thinking, in HP, they play wizards chess where the pieces come to life and actually fight and destroy eachother. I wish 40k was like that...that would be SO LEGENDARY!!!

I really wouldn't want a Nurgle/Slaanesh piece coming to life on my table.

Just saying.

oooh, good point, but i'd trust my soldiers to properly contain any situation, lol. But that would be epic, lascannons shooting stuff and models getting blown apart and running across the table! large blast explosions would look sweet!

malfred wrote:

dajobe wrote:was just thinking, in HP, they play wizards chess where the pieces come to life and actually fight and destroy eachother. I wish 40k was like that...that would be SO LEGENDARY!!!

I really wouldn't want a Nurgle/Slaanesh piece coming to life on my table.

Just saying.

You know, it would be totally awesome to be able to get one of those Military 3D Map Boards that you can program stuff into to have it actually move about.

Leigen_Zero wrote:Most of the non-teacher cast as insufferable ****, the entire series seems so Mary-Sue hero, like they all win, all the time, and despite not for one moment ever studying, or even turning up for classes, they still pass with flying colours...

Tell me, did you read the books or watch the movies?

With special mention to Hermione and Malfoy, the main characters are all a bunch of snotty brats who irritate me no end.

Ummm.... Malfoy is kind of supposed to be that way, and Hermione is also supposed to be a know-it-all....

Am I seriously the only person who does not give a expletive about Harry Potter, books, films, the whole bloated-and-forced-down-our-throats-by-WB-at-every-opportunity-franchise? because right now all my facebook news feed seems to be populated with are harry potter based stati

Would you rather it was Twilight?

Leigen_Zero wrote:

biccat wrote:

Harry Potter is a bit of an insufferable ****

Most of the non-teacher cast as insufferable ****, the entire series seems so Mary-Sue hero, like they all win, all the time, and despite not for one moment ever studying, or even turning up for classes, they still pass with flying colours...

My main complaint is that Harry never does anything on his own. "Doop de doop...wandering around. Oh look, the headmaster needs to talk to me. And he gives me a magical amulet. Then he takes me on a magical advantage, and I just sort of stand there, hold the magical amulet, and all the bad stuff goes away."

Then everyone says "YAAY! Harry Potter saved the day!"

Cowgak.

biccat wrote:

Leigen_Zero wrote:

biccat wrote:

Harry Potter is a bit of an insufferable ****

Most of the non-teacher cast as insufferable ****, the entire series seems so Mary-Sue hero, like they all win, all the time, and despite not for one moment ever studying, or even turning up for classes, they still pass with flying colours...

My main complaint is that Harry never does anything on his own. "Doop de doop...wandering around. Oh look, the headmaster needs to talk to me. And he gives me a magical amulet. Then he takes me on a magical advantage, and I just sort of stand there, hold the magical amulet, and all the bad stuff goes away."

Then everyone says "YAAY! Harry Potter saved the day!"

Cowgak.

What are you talking about? Seriously, which part of the series is that in?

its harry potter 2.68: the amulet of rainbows

its expected to release in May 2014


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the basic plot is that Huggy the evil carebear invaded and is trying to use the amulet of rainbows to kill all wizards

dajobe wrote:its harry potter 2.68: the amulet of rainbows

its expected to release in May 2014


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the basic plot is that Huggy the evil carebear invaded and is trying to use the amulet of rainbows to kill all wizards

Slarg232 wrote:What are you talking about? Seriously, which part of the series is that in?

Lets see:

Book 1: Harry potter gets taken to wizard shop. Harry gets a super-special broomstick. Harry, thanks to the super-special broomstick, gets on the Quiddich team. Then he catches the seeker, again thanks to his super-special broomstick, and everyone says "YAY HARRY POTTER"

At the end, Harry stumbles into the room with the special magic mirror and is forced to look into the mirror by the villian. The magic stone then drops into his pocket. The villian tries to grab Harry, but gets burned (lolwut?). Harry wakes up in the hospital. Everyone says "YAY HARRY POTTER".

Book 2: Harry enters the Chamber of Secrets (being shown where it was by a ghost). Harry gets separated and encounters Evil Monster #2. Magical phoenix appears and gives Harry a sword and he kills the beast, getting bitten in the process. But don't worry, the magical phoenix cures him. Oh, and look, he suddenly has the magical item he needs to destroy the evil book that started all of this. Oh, and as it turns out, he's the only one who could have wielded the sword, 'cause, you know, he's Harry. Everyone cheers for Harry Potter.

..is it really worth going on? Harry doesn't actually do anything in the books. He stumbles into situations and through some heavy-handed deus-ex-machina, everything falls into place and he wins the day.

biccat wrote:

Leigen_Zero wrote:

biccat wrote:

Harry Potter is a bit of an insufferable ****

Most of the non-teacher cast as insufferable ****, the entire series seems so Mary-Sue hero, like they all win, all the time, and despite not for one moment ever studying, or even turning up for classes, they still pass with flying colours...

My main complaint is that Harry never does anything on his own. "Doop de doop...wandering around. Oh look, the headmaster needs to talk to me. And he gives me a magical amulet. Then he takes me on a magical advantage, and I just sort of stand there, hold the magical amulet, and all the bad stuff goes away."

Then everyone says "YAAY! Harry Potter saved the day!"

Cowgak.

Well, given that one some of the themes of the book series are friendship
and cooperation, Harry Potter getting help isn't really such a big deal. He's
born to extraordinary circumstances, but you can attribute anything he's
capable of to someone important in his life.

malfred wrote:Well, given that one some of the themes of the book series are friendship
and cooperation, Harry Potter getting help isn't really such a big deal. He's
born to extraordinary circumstances, but you can attribute anything he's
capable of to someone important in his life.

Which is fine for a childrens book, it teaches the value of friendship and cooperation. And if that's all the series is presented as, then there's no problem.

But it's not realistic, and the hero-worship of Harry Potter is uncalled for. Harry didn't save the day, it was [Dumbledoor/his pet phoenix/Hermoine/Neville/a centaur...].

The Harry Potter series is portrayed by fans as an excellent example of a childrens book that appeals to people of all ages, and that's crap. Redwall is a great fantasy series that spans generations, Goodnight Moon is not.

REDWALL!!! Martin the Warrior(or whatever the mouses name is)

biccat wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:Book 1: Harry potter gets taken to wizard shop. Harry gets a super-special broomstick. Harry, thanks to the super-special broomstick, gets on the Quiddich team. Then he catches the seeker, again thanks to his super-special broomstick, and everyone says "YAY HARRY POTTER"

Actually, that's not it at all; harry doesn't get a Broomstick until after the shop, if memory serves me right. He also doesn't get on the Quiddich team due to (not) having said broomstick. He BECOMES the seeker, catches the Snitch ( ), and people cheer him on because he just won a sports game. Find me someone who wins a sports game that DOESN'T get cheered on....

At the end, Harry stumbles into the room with the special magic mirror and is forced to look into the mirror by the villian. The magic stone then drops into his pocket. The villian tries to grab Harry, but gets burned (lolwut?). Harry wakes up in the hospital. Everyone says "YAY HARRY POTTER".

Magic Stone drops into his pocket due to the magics surrounding special magic mirror. The Villain gets burned because magic envoked by Harry's Parents prevents villain inhabiting villains skin from touching harry, therefor burning him.

Book 2: Harry enters the Chamber of Secrets (being shown where it was by a ghost). Harry gets separated and encounters Evil Monster #2. Magical phoenix appears and gives Harry a sword and he kills the beast, getting bitten in the process. But don't worry, the magical phoenix cures him. Oh, and look, he suddenly has the magical item he needs to destroy the evil book that started all of this. Oh, and as it turns out, he's the only one who could have wielded the sword, 'cause, you know, he's Harry. Everyone cheers for Harry Potter.

Ghosts are very common in Hogwarts, they even go to a Deathday party (In the books, you would know if you actually had read them). Also, the Magical Item was a Basilisks Fang, not an actual magic item. Also, Ron wields the same magical sword, because it's not just "Because he's Harry."

..is it really worth going on? Harry doesn't actually do anything in the books. He stumbles into situations and through some heavy-handed deus-ex-machina, everything falls into place and he wins the day.

He does indeed do stuff, which you would know if you had actually read the books.

Not to mention that both examples listed are from when he was very young.

"Why can't the 11 year old fledgling wizard that doesn't know about his powers fight evil all by himself?"

As Malfred said, one of the themes is cooperation and working together, which is one of the strengths of the films.

Never read the books but enjoyed the movies and had an enjoyable time. The audience was good and didn't have any problems with cell phones or people talking throughout. It is interesting to watch the change in tone from the original films as each got progressively darker and more mature.

Harry has help because unlike most main characters he isn't a hero- he is one of the least heroic characters. He has enough of a conscience that he doesn't do what ever is required when he is in danger, he isn't especially good at any thing which could help him win the war. He has to rely on others because he isn't good enough himself. Aside from the events early in his life he is just a normal person.

Ahtman wrote:Not to mention that both examples listed are from when he was very young.

"Why can't the 11 year old fledgling wizard that doesn't know about his powers fight evil all by himself?"

Why is the author putting him in such a situation in the first place? Besides, the future books follow similar "plots."

Slarg232 wrote:Magic Stone drops into his pocket due to the magics surrounding special magic mirror. The Villain gets burned because magic envoked by Harry's Parents prevents villain inhabiting villains skin from touching harry, therefor burning him.

Which is my point. What exactly did Harry do to solve the problems of finding the stone and defeating the villian? Nothing. It just happened. There wasn't any problem solving on his part, no actions he took that advanced the plot besides showing up.

Slarg232 wrote:Ghosts are very common in Hogwarts, they even go to a Deathday party (In the books, you would know if you actually had read them).

Fairly irrelevant. The point is that Harry didn't find the secret entrance by his own actions, someone showed him where to go and what to do. Yes, he took the initiative in putting one foot in front of the other, but that's about it.

Slarg232 wrote:Also, the Magical Item was a Basilisks Fang, not an actual magic item.

Yes, and how did he get the fang? Did he wrest it from the beast's mouth? No, it bit him and came off. But isn't a basilisk's bite poisonous? Don't worry, there's a magical falcon whose tears cure everything. So what did Harry risk or do to get the fang? Again, nothing.

Slarg232 wrote:Also, Ron wields the same magical sword, because it's not just "Because he's Harry."

Again, irrelevant. He didn't do anything to achieve the special power needed to wield the magical sword, he did so because he was a "True son of Griffendor" or something. Did Harry make any decisions to do so? Did he take actions to cement his status as a "true son"? Nope, it's just part of the character.

The fact that we find out Ron has the same trait later doesn't change the fact that Harry is able to wield the sword only because he's special. A bit like the Arthurian legend, only once Arthur got the sword, he proved himself to be a badass.

Maybe the point of being a true son of Gryffindor is that you
don't need to do anything special to wield the magical sword
except be brave daring and chivalrous, which is why Neville
also gets his turn at using the sword.

Speaking of which:

malfred wrote:

That doesn't even make any sense...

Chuck Norris is obviously a muggle.

biccat wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:Magic Stone drops into his pocket due to the magics surrounding special magic mirror. The Villain gets burned because magic envoked by Harry's Parents prevents villain inhabiting villains skin from touching harry, therefor burning him.

Which is my point. What exactly did Harry do to solve the problems of finding the stone and defeating the villian? Nothing. It just happened. There wasn't any problem solving on his part, no actions he took that advanced the plot besides showing up.

Slarg232 wrote:Ghosts are very common in Hogwarts, they even go to a Deathday party (In the books, you would know if you actually had read them).

Fairly irrelevant. The point is that Harry didn't find the secret entrance by his own actions, someone showed him where to go and what to do. Yes, he took the initiative in putting one foot in front of the other, but that's about it.

Slarg232 wrote:Also, the Magical Item was a Basilisks Fang, not an actual magic item.

Yes, and how did he get the fang? Did he wrest it from the beast's mouth? No, it bit him and came off. But isn't a basilisk's bite poisonous? Don't worry, there's a magical falcon whose tears cure everything. So what did Harry risk or do to get the fang? Again, nothing.

Slarg232 wrote:Also, Ron wields the same magical sword, because it's not just "Because he's Harry."

Again, irrelevant. He didn't do anything to achieve the special power needed to wield the magical sword, he did so because he was a "True son of Griffendor" or something. Did Harry make any decisions to do so? Did he take actions to cement his status as a "true son"? Nope, it's just part of the character.

The fact that we find out Ron has the same trait later doesn't change the fact that Harry is able to wield the sword only because he's special. A bit like the Arthurian legend, only once Arthur got the sword, he proved himself to be a badass.

Getting ready to go to work, sorry about the lack of format:

1) Except he did do it; He was one of the few who could have gotten the stone because he didn't want to use it. Also, I distinctly recall Harry actually getting into a sort of (Admittingly pathetic) Wrestling match with Quirrel after he learned he could burn him. There you go, action because of him.

2) Harry DID figure out where it was; he knew it was in that girls bathroom, but he had no idea where it was; Myrtle just showed him where she thought it was. If Harry hadn't have figured out it was in it, he wouldn't have needed to be shown where it was specifically, now would he have?

3) In most mythologies, Phoenixes (Phoenicies?) have healing powers. Dumbledore sent his to help Harry. How is that so hard? And yes, in the books he cut it out with the sword when it bit him. Mostly due to placement of the blade. Also, he didn't get healed until AFTER the entire fight was over.

4) And no, he was never a "true son of Griffindor"; he had the courage to see something through (A quality Griffindor loved), and so the Sword made itself known to him because of that. Yes, Harry did infact make desicions to be so; remember in the first movie? "Not Slytherin, anywhere but Slytherin". Hell,




Again, read the fricking books before you get into a debate as to what the hell is going on in them.

biccat wrote:

Ahtman wrote:Not to mention that both examples listed are from when he was very young.

"Why can't the 11 year old fledgling wizard that doesn't know about his powers fight evil all by himself?"

Why is the author putting him in such a situation in the first place? Besides, the future books follow similar "plots."

Why did the author putting a character into some form of adventure? I suppose because having a book of him just doing homework and looking out a window at the countryside would be boring. Strangely, most conflicts on this scale cannot be resolved alone and working together is an important function for multiple reasons.