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2011/07/21 14:52:20
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Fixture of Dakka
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htj wrote:Grakmar wrote:As for everyone complaining about "I could care less". I agree, it's idiotic. But, to dull the anger a bit, it's best to know the history behind the phrase. It was originally a British phrase "I couldn't care less". It then jumped the pond in the 60s. Americans started using it sarcastically by dropping the negative. Over the decades, we've dropped the sarcasm, leaving us with an idiotic phrase that means the opposite of what people think it means. But, it does have it's roots in things that make sense.
Is that really true? That is genuinely fascinating, if so.
That's what I've heard from semi-legitimate places. We Americans love our sarcastic phrases, even if we sometimes forget that they're sarcastic.
"I should be so lucky."
"I could care less."
"Tell me about it."
http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g09.html
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2011/07/21 14:57:14
Subject: Americanisms
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The Hammer of Witches
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Interesting stuff indeed. Now, in an effort to further British cultural hegemony, allow me to suggest some fine Britishisms to replace the above phrases.
I should be so lucky. - I should cocoa.
I could care less. - I couldn't give a tinker's cuss.
Tell me about it. - Roger me pippins and bake me Tuesday.
I may have made that last one up.
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2011/07/21 15:00:16
Subject: Americanisms
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So is "disorientated" really the way you guys say it over there? I hear Bear Grylls use it a lot and it makes me cringe. 
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2011/07/21 15:03:02
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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I like that they get really mad about abbreviations, like using 24/7 instead of saying the whole phrase '24 hours a day, seven days a week'.
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2011/07/21 15:03:20
Subject: Americanisms
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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bushido wrote:So is "disorientated" really the way you guys say it over there? I hear Bear Grylls use it a lot and it makes me cringe.
How else would you say it?
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2011/07/21 15:03:59
Subject: Americanisms
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corpsesarefun wrote:bushido wrote:So is "disorientated" really the way you guys say it over there? I hear Bear Grylls use it a lot and it makes me cringe.
How else would you say it?
Disoriented
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2011/07/21 15:05:57
Subject: Americanisms
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I hear it as "disoriented"....
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2011/07/21 15:06:20
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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The Hammer of Witches
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BearersOfSalvation wrote:I like that they get really mad about abbreviations, like using 24/7 instead of saying the whole phrase '24 hours a day, seven days a week'.
Yeah, that one was particularly nebbish. Although I prefer the sound of 'all day, every day' myself.
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
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2011/07/21 15:08:09
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Dive-Bombin' Fighta-Bomba Pilot
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Its just as confusing and annoying for us Americans when we come to the UK or listen to a British person... I took a trip over there a long time ago on family business and there were a lot of people there which I couldn't understand in the slightest...I guess what they say is true "Brits and Americans are two peoples separated by a common language." That and sometimes I get a really weird urge to say "bugger" sometimes when I refer to someone I don't like...-shrugs- could be just me...
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2011/07/21 15:39:02
Subject: Americanisms
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Grakmar wrote:corpsesarefun wrote:bushido wrote:So is "disorientated" really the way you guys say it over there? I hear Bear Grylls use it a lot and it makes me cringe.
How else would you say it?
Disoriented
That just means removed from the east.
Just joking, disoriented and disorientated are both correct in British English, much like judgement and judgment.
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2011/07/21 16:42:45
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Gitsplitta wrote:Some of those terms or phrases in incorrect even in American English... it's slang... it's grammatical crap. British slang better? I doubt it. Most of the respondents in the article however, need a life... or a hobby... or a girlfriend.
...  Of all the pretentious and petty entities that dwell within the internet...I've always found the grammar nazis to be most annoying.
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2011/07/21 17:07:57
Subject: Americanisms
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Really?
So?
Probably all old grumpy people.
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2011/07/21 17:52:09
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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FITZZ wrote:Gitsplitta wrote:Some of those terms or phrases in incorrect even in American English... it's slang... it's grammatical crap. British slang better? I doubt it. Most of the respondents in the article however, need a life... or a hobby... or a girlfriend.
... Of all the pretentious and petty entities that dwell within the internet...I've always found the grammar nazis to be most annoying.
I think you actually meant to type;
Of all the pretentious and petty entities that dwell within the internet...I've always found the grammar nazis most annoying.
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2011/07/21 17:55:40
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Kilkrazy wrote:FITZZ wrote:Gitsplitta wrote:Some of those terms or phrases in incorrect even in American English... it's slang... it's grammatical crap. British slang better? I doubt it. Most of the respondents in the article however, need a life... or a hobby... or a girlfriend.
... Of all the pretentious and petty entities that dwell within the internet...I've always found the grammar nazis to be most annoying.
I think you actually meant to type;
Of all the pretentious and petty entities that dwell within the internet...I've always found the grammar nazis most annoying.
...Indeed. 
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2011/07/21 22:14:06
Subject: Americanisms
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Kilkrazy wrote:Grakmar wrote:corpsesarefun wrote:bushido wrote:So is "disorientated" really the way you guys say it over there? I hear Bear Grylls use it a lot and it makes me cringe.
How else would you say it?
Disoriented
That just means removed from the east.
Just joking, disoriented and disorientated are both correct in British English, much like judgement and judgment.
Whats the Difference? I run them over in my mind and they come out the same. 
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Emperors Faithful wrote:
metallifan wrote:Maybe it's not the ROFLSTOMP that Americans are used to...
Best summary of foeign policy. Ever.
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2011/07/21 23:23:35
Subject: Americanisms
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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The only word that people could use that will actually annoy me is "Epic". Seriously, why is everything epic? It's the most overused word I hear. Everything that is even a little bit good is "epic". Epic used to mean it was huge, vast, great, etc.
But now we've degraded it. D:
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2011/07/21 23:43:26
Subject: Americanisms
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Slippery Scout Biker
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#4, Why would that bug you at all?
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2011/07/21 23:47:17
Subject: Americanisms
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Mr.Norman wrote:#4, Why would that bug you at all?
Maybe because it's too "relaxed".?
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2011/07/22 01:57:27
Subject: Americanisms
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Regular Dakkanaut
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DA's Forever wrote:
That just means removed from the east.
Just joking, disoriented and disorientated are both correct in British English, much like judgement and judgment.
Whats the Difference? I run them over in my mind and they come out the same.
One has an "e" the other doesn't.
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2011/07/22 04:03:30
Subject: Americanisms
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Hauptmann
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Mike Noble wrote:The only word that people could use that will actually annoy me is "Epic". Seriously, why is everything epic? It's the most overused word I hear. Everything that is even a little bit good is "epic". Epic used to mean it was huge, vast, great, etc.
But now we've degraded it. D:
Cheapened it to point of the word "Awesome"
"The pizza rolls are done"
"Awesome"
Automatically Appended Next Post: This is truly ironic since the worst transgressors of bad English on the internet tend to be from the UK. To be fair though, they're usually responding to a news story or something like that and they haven't been on Dakka.
It gets pretty hard to read with zero punctuation.
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2011/07/22 04:12:17
Subject: Americanisms
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Mike Noble wrote:The only word that people could use that will actually annoy me is "Epic". Seriously, why is everything epic? It's the most overused word I hear. Everything that is even a little bit good is "epic". Epic used to mean it was huge, vast, great, etc.
But now we've degraded it. D:
Man, this is such an epic post.
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2011/07/22 04:30:24
Subject: Americanisms
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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Melissia wrote:Mike Noble wrote:The only word that people could use that will actually annoy me is "Epic". Seriously, why is everything epic? It's the most overused word I hear. Everything that is even a little bit good is "epic". Epic used to mean it was huge, vast, great, etc.
But now we've degraded it. D:
Man, this is such an epic post.
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2011/07/22 04:45:06
Subject: Americanisms
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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Howard A Treesong wrote:It's a railway station.
A police station is a place where there's a lot of police officers who are sent off to do different tasks, a train station is a place where there's lots of trains waiting to be sent to different tasks.
If you call a train station a railroad station is a police station a hallway station?
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2011/07/22 04:47:28
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Good to see the Brits taking a stand on such important causes...
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2011/07/22 04:50:46
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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CT GAMER wrote:Good to see the Brits taking a stand on such important causes...
I know right, they should be arguing with the French or something. Geeze.
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2011/07/22 05:00:28
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Phanobi
oh,you know. in a basement...cooking ponies into cupcakes....
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halonachos wrote:CT GAMER wrote:Good to see the Brits taking a stand on such important causes...
I know right, they should be arguing with the French or something. Geeze.
you 2 just made my day...well,its night technically but still...
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2011/07/22 05:00:49
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Feldwebel
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FITZZ wrote:Gitsplitta wrote:Some of those terms or phrases in incorrect even in American English... it's slang... it's grammatical crap. British slang better? I doubt it. Most of the respondents in the article however, need a life... or a hobby... or a girlfriend.
... Of all the pretentious and petty entities that dwell within the internet...I've always found the grammar nazis to be most annoying.
ha yeah then you get the automatic grammer Nazi's on forums, the kind that give auto warnings for not putting a fullstop at the end of a sentence..........
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2011/07/24 07:36:54
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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lord commissar klimino wrote:halonachos wrote:CT GAMER wrote:Good to see the Brits taking a stand on such important causes...
I know right, they should be arguing with the French or something. Geeze.
you 2 just made my day...well,its night technically but still...
Yea I hear the brits dislike the french so much they will not even pronounce french sounding words, they britize them. Like Chevrolet in the US is /ʃɛvrəle/ and the Brits say /ʃɛvrolɛt/ but the have to say Menu, as there is no real way else to say that one.
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2011/07/24 07:55:55
Subject: Americanisms
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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halonachos wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:It's a railway station.
A police station is a place where there's a lot of police officers who are sent off to do different tasks, a train station is a place where there's lots of trains waiting to be sent to different tasks.
If you call a train station a railroad station is a police station a hallway station?
Yes, and a radio station is a wave station.
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2011/07/24 08:16:52
Subject: Re:Americanisms
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Interestingly enough, I just finished reading an excellent book on the evolution of the American language:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Made-America-Bill-Bryson/dp/0552998052/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1311495368&sr=8-24
Very interesting and highly recommended.
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