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TrollPie wrote:

zilegil wrote:I wonder what an ork would do if he had to have a long conversation over a vox?

Ask itself why the zog it's having a conversation when there's choppin' to be done!

"Oi ther be a humie talkin to me from dis box, get to choppin boyz!"

Orky language school

zilegil wrote:

That's my attempt at humour.

Don't worry you're from the UK you're automatically funny.

Farseer Petriel wrote:

Las wrote:^yeah.

Ever wonder why the eldar speak english? or the DE, or the servants of chaos, or the tau...

its just representative, so that we know what theyre saying.

Eldar speak Eldarin with each other, so do the Tau. GW even give the actual Tau and Eldar words. In this case English is really representative. But I doubt that they speak their native languages when talking to humans.
Servants of Chaos are the same humans, but under control of the Dark Gods, so they simply can speak human language. And Daemons are incredibly smart creatures which are able to speak any language they want.
As for the Orks, I think Orks such as Ghazghkull or Gorgutz can speak Gothic. Because humans understand them.

As far as I understand it, Path of the Warrior was written in english.

What I mean is, english is used to represent these languages when we are meant to understand them in the fluff. I know they have their own in-universe languages, but when youre playing Fire Warrior on your PS2, youre gonna hear them speaking english. Its all representative.

In asexual species, aren't all specimens referred to as female?

Henners91 wrote:In asexual species, aren't all specimens referred to as female?

Maybe so, but try saying that to an Ork's face...

SilverMK2 wrote:On the mean streets of Nottingham during the 70's and 80's.

This.


I imagine that the Orks speak a multitude of different languages. Perhaps based on a genetic predisposition. There is some discussion in our own universe that word roots and sounds may be inherent in us.

It doesn't appear that Ork language developes very much past a certain level especially since they aren't complicated socially and technological wonders are created spontaneously and not through development.

Just an idea.

Henners91 wrote:In asexual species, aren't all specimens referred to as female?

If this is so then serious justice has been done to my friend

Nazdreg can speak Gothic, I'm sure a few other Warbosses and Nobs can (particularly Bad Moons and Blood Axes), but it's definitely a rarity. I imagine most Orks would consider the endeavour decidedly 'un-Orky'.

sirrah wrote:Nazdreg can speak Gothic, I'm sure a few other Warbosses and Nobs can (particularly Bad Moons and Blood Axes), but it's definitely a rarity. I imagine most Orks would consider the endeavour decidedly 'un-Orky'.

I'd imagine most of the blood axes can speak it considering the trade with humans.

CalgarsPimpHand wrote:

Henners91 wrote:In asexual species, aren't all specimens referred to as female?

Maybe so, but try saying that to an Ork's face...

The Ork would probably not understand gender/sex and shoot you for larfs.

There is a snatch of fluff in the current codex wherein a warboss holds a conversation with the leader of a planets defense, goes something like this:

Ork: you lot give us a bunch o guns, and we wont krump ya!

Human: NEVER

Ork: ok, the gargants an dread mobs needed a workout anyway...

Human: Uh, perhaps we can negotiate?

Ork: Nah, i changed me mind, let er rip boyz!!!

As far as I know, Orks did negotiate with the Imperium (infamous Blood Axes) and Chaos Forces (with Alpha Legion in DoW) so it's quite possible to have business with them. And yes, speaking Gothic is required (Low Gothic is enough - don't make an Ork pray to the Emperor )

Orks genetically remember things from the previous generation. Meks can make guns and kans because they kinda already knew how they day they crawled out of the mud. IIRC Orks have been trading with races as long as humans can remember. They traded with squats and eldar and I'm sure they have with kroot at some point (being stuck in the same place for so long).

And several good points were made above.
Orks as a whole kinda make their own reality. If they want you to hear them yell "Imma gun krump yaskull, ummie!!!" you will say to yourself, "Did that thing just say something about trumpets?" before being cleaved in half.

Orks are sexless but are full of testoserone, making them lean more towards male tendancies.

And once again... READ XENOLOGY!!! It will answer all questions regarding the anatomy and such of the major races of 40k including some you've never heard of.

Actually, if you read the painboy section of the codex, you'l notice a quote saying something like:"the painboy at least knows where to stick the squirty thing below the vein that goes to the green wriggly bit on an ork boy!" so yeah I think there all male, that and the fact they all speak in a bloke's voice and they reproduce by spore's that come of their bodies when they die! XD

Melissia wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:Orks could all be male,

They aren't. They have no male genitalia, and their species has no psychological distinction of maleness.

I beg to differ, they might not be males but they defiantly have a male likeness, all they want to do is fight and kill(cant think of to many women who would find this enjoyable). Physical features also include huge bulging muscles, again not many females have their kinda muscles. and in the video games they have very much so male voices.

boyz are boys...just because theirs no women doesn't mean theirs no boys. They "reproduce" by dropping spores. Spores will fall off by running, jumping,getting shot, swinging you're choppa, and scratching you're rear....but a lot of spores drop once the ork dies.

bombboy1252 wrote:boyz are boys...just because theirs no women doesn't mean theirs no boys. They "reproduce" by dropping spores. Spores will fall off by running, jumping,getting shot, swinging you're choppa, and scratching you're rear....but a lot of spores drop once the ork dies.

What he means is when you are fighting an Orc you aren't simply fighting you are also having a passionate love making session (In the orc way) - when you fight Orcs you are actually making love to them.

Ork. Wiff a 'k' sound. Lik Krumpin'.

Orks have sex by fighting, and they orgasm when they die.

Well, there is definitely instance in all GW product (video games, BL book, codex, etc) where Orks actually do speak Gothic (most likely Low) - because they hold conversation with humans.

So yeah... I think the 'how do they learn it question?' is valid.

Anvildude wrote:Ork. Wiff a 'k' sound. Lik Krumpin'.

Orks have sex by fighting, and they orgasm when they die.

Orks - Death by Orgasm

DeffDred wrote:Orks genetically remember things from the previous generation. Meks can make guns and kans because they kinda already knew how they day they crawled out of the mud. IIRC Orks have been trading with races as long as humans can remember. They traded with squats and eldar and I'm sure they have with kroot at some point (being stuck in the same place for so long).

And several good points were made above.
Orks as a whole kinda make their own reality. If they want you to hear them yell "Imma gun krump yaskull, ummie!!!" you will say to yourself, "Did that thing just say something about trumpets?" before being cleaved in half.

Orks are sexless but are full of testoserone, making them lean more towards male tendancies.

And once again... READ XENOLOGY!!! It will answer all questions regarding the anatomy and such of the major races of 40k including some you've never heard of.

+1

Orks have an inherited memory. Its how the pass on all sorts of cultural knowledge. I suspect it has something to do with the warp and genetics combined. With enough of them they could just have a mek create a universal translator if they wanted to taunt the enemy (which they do).

Tarkand wrote:Well, there is definitely instance in all GW product (video games, BL book, codex, etc) where Orks actually do speak Gothic (most likely Low) - because they hold conversation with humans.

So yeah... I think the 'how do they learn it question?' is valid.

I think its been explained, most of the Orks we see have developed near humans so its understandable that they speak the language of the common foe - oks that developed with no prior contact too humanity speak their own language (if they have one)

the whole thing about Boyz etc - this game was written back in the old days and then they couldn't be bother making new names for all the units


its a lot easier too call a unit Boys then some alien name that no one can relate too - (and a lot more fun too)

yevix wrote:

Anvildude wrote:Ork. Wiff a 'k' sound. Lik Krumpin'.

Orks have sex by fighting, and they orgasm when they die.

Orks - Death by Orgasm

It's the "Little Death"- Le Petite Mort

Though it's a little bigger for Orks.

I always thought Orks spoke their own language and we the audience see it as English (similar to how Imperials talk in English despite using Gothic). Figured higher-level Orks may catch onto some Gothic phrases here and there.

There are multiple stories with Orks that have humans mentioning their crude guttural language, etc.

Harriticus wrote:I always thought Orks spoke their own language and we the audience see it as English (similar to how Imperials talk in English despite using Gothic). Figured higher-level Orks may catch onto some Gothic phrases here and there.

There are multiple stories with Orks that have humans mentioning their crude guttural language, etc.

Orks do have their own language but its very primitive and involves a lot of hitting there is a better definitional in the deathwatch book

It is amazing how the concept of orks have changed over the years. I would say in a way that their current incarnation doesn't match their speech (which was apparently bestowed on them during the 80's, one of the design team when playing them used a rough London accent to mimic how he imagined them talking and it stuck), and I think the disparity looks a little bit out of place.

In fact the couple of books which were written about Ork 'kulture' have now been effectively reduced to two words which encapsulate the depth orks have nowadays in the background: "mushroom" and "krump"

Can you tell I'm more of a fan of the older material?

Oh, these damned retcons...
Warhammer 40k looked obviously more colourful in the past...
And now it has become too grim and dark, full only with warrior pathetics.

Who says that the Old Ones didn't speak Gothic as well? They were the ones who created the Orks, and I think the Eldar too. So the Old Ones could have had influence on Mankind's languages as well, helping to mold Gothic into an almost universal secondary language for most races.

purplefood wrote:They learnt it from Charlotte Bronte novels...

Gitzspitta with an air of superiority befitting an Ork of some standing amongst his peers glanced at Grotlikkz, whose delicate features enhanced by the light squiggfat candles held Gitzeses' attention momentarily, distracting him from the import of his reason for attending the soiree, held regularly at Gobskullz's residence for more enlightened and well bred orks of the region. Indeed to be invited was considered a great honour bestowed upon the recipient of such a request, and the slight felt at not receiving a Squiggvellum card delectibly inscribed by Gobskullz's imperious and most perfect copperplate signature requesting ones' attendance was deemed to be disproportionately harrowing to the joy of the acknowledgement by the esteemed hostess. How perfect it would be to accompany Grotlikkz upon the piano forte, however it was most urgent that such delights be banished from thought and turn his attention to the equally delecatible pastime of wagering teeth on squiggs, a vice that would surely lead to his downfall.