filbert wrote:scipio.au wrote:filbert wrote:Moist other magazine subscriptions offer a freebie to subscribers when they subscribe/renew. GW give subscribers the chance to buy a model at full price. That tells you all you need to know...
They used to give them for free with a sub. They used to have lots of deals for subscribers - you know, like every other magazine subscription out there...
I know they did - I used to be a long time subscriber. But then again,
GW/
WD used to do quite a lot of things like that. Remember when
GW used to have sales? Remember when
GW used to run buy one, get one free offers? Remember when
WD used to promote other game systems?
The point is
GW/
WD used to offer quite a lot more. Unfortunately,
WD hasn't been good value for quite some time now. The same could be said of
GW too, arguably.
Um, yes mate. We're actually
agreeing, not arguing here...
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And no your wrong,
GW doesn't stand behind their product 100%....infact they sell you a kit so you can fix it yourself and not have to bother them with complaints like; missing pieces, mis-formed bodyparts, resin bubbles ( just use superglue...HAHAHA
), crisp details (and if you buy that one I got some water under a bridge that is 'nice and crisp' and i'll sell it to you for a song
) all with signifigant price increase. Thats the worst part they rush this 'new wonderproduct' that will replace ' the evil metal that was making us increase prices' without fully testing it, with out training personal in how to pour it and cure times and to me personally it seems like the quality isn't getting any better. I still see pictures of models that make me cringe when I remember how much people are paying for this "New revelation in model production".
Personally I don't like the feel of it, I don't like the material and if I wanted resin I would buy Forgeworld or another companys products. For those people who say "FailCrap" is easier to work with them metal are fooling themselves. There is a whole host of tool's and new materials you now need to do just to make the model complete. How is that easier?
As for
WD, it's been a rag for about 4 years or so. There has been almost no hobby content other then a few Eavy Metal Masterclasses (which they could of put on the website instead of padding out the page count in
WD). All the rag is is one big 'o0o0 shinezz buy now NOW NOW NOW!!!' I understand that a inhouse magazine had to promote its own products, there is nothing wrong with that
WD has been doing that for a long time now. But it's always had other content in it. The battle reports have always been fixed but not in the way most people think. There used to be heaps of 'build it yourself' stuff but since
GW now sells there own line of gameboards and terrain why would we want people to make stuff, buy ours....even though we see the same crappy
RoB and terrain in all the pictures, it's depressing.
Chill out, mate. The new tools work well with resin but are still good hobby gear - I have not bought a single finecast model at this stage - I'm avoiding them until I have no option - but I picked up the liquid greenstuff as well as the brush/scraper set. The Liquid greenstuff I'm finding
very useful on all those models that I really couldn't be arsed to roll up milliput/kneadatite to fill small gaps on (around the manes of plastic wolves - that sort of thing) and now that I know this sort of thing exists I'll be picking up some Vallejo Plastic Putty pretty soon. Brush has the potential to come in handy with my resin models from
FW, Maelstrom, etc, and the mold line scraper is actually not too bad - the curvature makes it useful in some places over a blunt scalpel blade. Are they "better" for resin than metal, I'm sure they are, but I've only used them on metal and plastic. (I've got more than a few slightly pitted/cracked metal models that will have watered down
LGS put into the pits and cracks).
The thing with the "whole host of tools and new materials to make the model complete" thing doesn't really cut it. At least not to people who've been in the hobby for a few years. My pre-finecast toolkit holds a lot of stuff to make metal complete - Pliers, jewelers' saw, kneadatite (
GS), milliput, jewelers' files, regular files, coarse and fine-grit sandpaper, scalpels and blades of varying shape/thickness to be able to cut through, flush cutters, metal snips, needle-nose pliers, araldite (2-part epoxy glue - to hold heavy metal models together). Not to mention the basics of brass rod, heavy wire, a pin vice and a variety of different sized drill bits to hold the things together. This is before getting into more extreme stuff many people have like dremels and the various safety equipment for them.
And
WD? 4 years? Hah, it's had some small positive phases (Paul Sawyer's run was the best since the
RT/early 2nd-ed days, but he still had many issues filled with marketing fluff) but it's been like that for more than a decade if we're being honest. They've just phased out hobby articles dealing with anything they start to sell over the years as you note (terrain, trees, hills, etc). But it's mostly just been a catalogue with some painting articles for a long, long time...
You got that right, 