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Key for bending resin, heat it up in hot water first. It will soften and would be very easy to bend it.
I've done it to various forge world and fine cast models and it works just fine.

Aye, I've learned that since then. Like I said tho, I'm naturally clumsy, so I have to be extra careful with resin... whereas plastic is kinda idiot proof.

-Loki- wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. Using your analogy, the people who thought the wedding was ruined would be going up to everyone they see, whether they're talking about the wedding or not, or even if they'd not even been there, and telling them everything about it was terrible and they should hate it. Even if they like it, they're not allowed to, they must hate it. Didn't even go? Hate it. Liked the food? Hate it. Like the music, and danced with a hot bridesmaid? You're not allowed to enjoy that. hate it.

That's what people who hate finecast are like.

Actually, you brought up what i was considering to expand further or not.

If no one ever bring up the flaws and everyone just stays silent and take the miscasts up their bum...
Does anyone honestly believe GW will strive to fix it? After all, why fix something if everyone is ok with it?
Its not in a business's interest to fix something no one have issues with.

Now. I understand there will be haters, which means complaining finecast for the sake of complaining.
But.... its clear as day by now, that there are issues that need to be worked on. Pronto.

-Loki- wrote:They have stepped it up. The latest batches have been very good on the miscast front. They're still not near their metal quality control, but they getting there.

They stepped up did they? So that means the price went down because they're using a cheaper material that stops them from having to buy expensive tin, right? There's more reasons to hate Failcost than just a lack of QA.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

-Loki- wrote:They have stepped it up. The latest batches have been very good on the miscast front. They're still not near their metal quality control, but they getting there.

They stepped up did they? So that means the price went down because they're using a cheaper material that stops them from having to buy expensive tin, right? There's more reasons to hate Failcost than just a lack of QA.

This is you not trolling like you claim? Seriously, I made no mention at all of price. At. All. Nice not-troll attempt though.

umm... shouldnt you 2 be protesting the embargo?
well you should instead of arguing with each other....

LunaHound wrote:Now. I understand there will be haters, which means complaining finecast for the sake of complaining.
But.... its clear as day by now, that there are issues that need to be worked on. Pronto.

There are issues. All but the biggest GW white knight will admit there's problems with finecast, even if they like the product. I will too - I have a Venomthrope I should have returned. I didn't, because as I said earlier, I want to get practice fixing things like wide seams between peices before I tackle my Heirophant. If I didn't want the practice, it would have gone back.

That said, I'm willing to ride out the crap. I'll return anything I get that I don't like (as I said, my Venomthrope has large seams between the carapace bits, which I'm fixing to get practice before tackling my Heirophant, otherwise it would have gone back). I like finecast more than metal for a variety of reasons, so I'm quite happy returning any models that are miscast and having fun with my toys.


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LunaHound wrote:umm... shouldnt you 2 be protesting the embargo?
well you should instead of arguing with each other....

There's ways around it, especially on plastic kits. The only reason to protest the embargo anymore is if you simply don't want to play GW games anymore, and want to waste time complaining about stuff. Get off my lawn!

-Loki- wrote:This is you not trolling like you claim? Seriously, I made no mention at all of price. At. All. Nice not-troll attempt though.

Learn what trolling actually is Loki. It's a post made for no other reason than to illicit a reaction, to annoy, to derive enjoyment from getting a rise out of people.

And of course you didn't mention price. I'm mentioning price, because the idea that they've 'stepped up' is absurd. Finecast is nothing but spin to try and get people to think they're getting some sort of amazingly high quality miniature when all it is - all it is - was a simple cost cutting measure in light of the increasing price of tin. Now there's nothing wrong with resin, and it makes perfect sense to redesign your products out of a cheaper material to save on overhead costs - all of that is 100% logical - but it's another to use it as an excuse to jack up the price whilst lying about the quality.

LunaHound wrote:umm... shouldnt you 2 be protesting the embargo?
well you should instead of arguing with each other....

There's ways around it, especially on plastic kits. The only reason to protest the embargo anymore is if you simply don't want to play GW games anymore, and want to waste time complaining about stuff. Get off my lawn!

Haha, I'm the one that showed him Dicebucket. Yeah, that and other US based stores.

To the OP: I do miss the sound of dreads being placed on the table. I do not miss marine captains putting holes in the table with his powersword everytime he tipped over.

Hm... I wonder what sort of complaining will be had when GW inevitably switches to a material similar to digital paper for its minis instead of more traditional materials.

Will people complain that the computer program that "paints" the minis is too expensive? Too hard to use?

Will people complain that the touch-up stylus has a power cable and/or batteries? Will they complain that the paint tiles are too small or large? Too expensive?

Will people complain that they miss the old days when miniatures were painted using a proper brush and acrylic hobby paints?

Will people complain that the 3d scanner doesn't convert the miniature's image into the program correctly?

Will people complain that the 3d printer they've been printing their minis from for years isn't compatible with the material, and claim discrimination about technology have-nots?


What sort of complaints will we see when physical miniatures become a thing of the past, and games are played in a holo-tank?

Will people complain that they miss when miniatures were a physical object? Will the old geezers like myself remember the days of spending an hour working on a single infantry figure, when the kids these days will have their whole armies ready to go 5 minutes after unboxing the memory storage device?

Will people complain that holo-tanks are too expensive in that size? Will we pine for the old days when we could make a gaming surface with a 20 dollar piece of plywood and a spare green sheet?

Will people complain about their paranoia that the tactile neural controls are planting thoughts in their minds? Will the tactile neural controls actually BE planting thoughts in our minds?

Will people complain that kids these days have it so easy, having grown up on magical technology like holotanks?


Ahh, I hope but to live long enough to see these fevered dreams become a reality.

I think you are missing the point. No one is complaining about material change.
Rather, the claim of how superior it is while not able to deliver the claim.

The sight of a metal dreadnought toppling at the top of a hill and crushing the tactical squad in front of it as it snowballs its way to the bottom of a hill was always a hilarious and awesome sight.

LunaHound wrote:I think you are missing the point. No one is complaining about material change.
Rather, the claim of how superior it is while not able to deliver the claim.

Sorry, I thought I posted this in the thread where people were complaining about GW's transition from one material to another earlier this year. I'll go find the right thread.

-Loki- wrote:The sight of a metal dreadnought toppling at the top of a hill and crushing the tactical squad in front of it as it snowballs its way to the bottom of a hill was always a hilarious and awesome sight.

They ought to pick that metal dread up and threw it on anyone that was laughing >.>

Pouncey wrote:

Will people complain that they miss when miniatures were a physical object? Will the old geezers like myself remember the days of spending an hour working on a single infantry figure, when the kids these days will have their whole armies ready to go 5 minutes after unboxing the memory storage device?

I defiantly will. I like playing with my miniatures. >.>

LunaHound wrote:I think you are missing the point. No one is complaining about material change.
Rather, the claim of how superior it is while not able to deliver the claim.

The issue to me at least is where it is superiour. Detail quality? Debateable, and I can't see anyone but the best painters claiming it's a benefit. Easy of converting, reduction of preparation, ease of construction are all vastly in finecasts favour. It's a real pity GW decided to play up the detail, since there's far more angles with very noticeable benefits. Gw, being GW, had no idea how to market it.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:

Pouncey wrote:

Will people complain that they miss when miniatures were a physical object? Will the old geezers like myself remember the days of spending an hour working on a single infantry figure, when the kids these days will have their whole armies ready to go 5 minutes after unboxing the memory storage device?

I defiantly will. I like playing with my miniatures. >.>

. . .

SO many things I could say right now...

On the plus side, we'll have battle reports where you can actually watch the battle in real-time and no one's army will ever be unpainted.

Edited for stupidness on my part.

"Learn what trolling actually is Loki. It's a post made for no other reason than to illicit a reaction, to annoy, to derive enjoyment from getting a rise out of people."

Yeah...In other words, trolling.

GamzaTheChaos wrote:I hear a lot of people defending fine cast along with telling how much they love it.

I like weight to my models. I like painting metal figures. I even like how the metal looks.
this not me crying about them changing to fine cast if a special character is only available to me in fine cast
i'll get it. but I simply enjoy metal 1000000000000 times better.

so is there anyone else who can't stand the fine cast models?

So... I guess you also hate plastics then?

Snide remarks aside it is perfectly fine human behaviour I hate metal for basically the same reasons you like it, hate having weight to models, hate painting them then they chip and i hate the look of metal and how hard it is to see defects and difference between mold lines and details

Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

Iur_tae_mont wrote:

KilroyKiljoy wrote:I know a guy who got some Tzeentch Flamers. They came faceless. I now hate Finecast.

Tzeentch Flamers are like 66% face (or atleast 60% mouths). Did he just get a resin stick?

Pretty much. It was just a stick with a bulge at the top.

Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

In my opinion, Finecast is superior by far. No need to pin, cleans up easy, and easy to modify. I do miss the heft that metal models have, but I can overlook that for the good things about Finecast.


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Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

LOL whatever man.

Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

So he is either allergic to the hydrocarbons in the resin, unlikely cause he would also not like plastics *long evil laugh*, so it must be a curing agent or release agent.

curtis wrote:

Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

So he is either allergic to the hydrocarbons in the resin, unlikely cause he would also not like plastics *long evil laugh*, so it must be a curing agent or release agent.

Most likely as hes not allergic to the FW resin and tbh hes not happy since every hero will become finecast eventually and don't think Gw would offer an alternative for him xD

Alphacerberus wrote:

curtis wrote:

Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

So he is either allergic to the hydrocarbons in the resin, unlikely cause he would also not like plastics *long evil laugh*, so it must be a curing agent or release agent.

Most likely as hes not allergic to the FW resin and tbh hes not happy since every hero will become finecast eventually and don't think Gw would offer an alternative for him xD

Tried washing them before hand with latex gloves on? unless allergic to latex *another long evil laugh*

Alphacerberus wrote:

curtis wrote:

Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

So he is either allergic to the hydrocarbons in the resin, unlikely cause he would also not like plastics *long evil laugh*, so it must be a curing agent or release agent.

Most likely as hes not allergic to the FW resin and tbh hes not happy since every hero will become finecast eventually and don't think Gw would offer an alternative for him xD

If he's not allergic to FW models, it's not the resin, so it's likely the release agent. Tell him to wear gloves, and wash them in soapy water with a toothbrush. He should really be doing this anyway.

Putting together my first metal model recently (a Chaos Dreadnought), I have no idea how I could put together an entire army of metals, especially smaller ones. Will deal with the problems with finecast over the hell of putting together metals anyday.

-Loki- wrote:

Alphacerberus wrote:

curtis wrote:

Alphacerberus wrote:Guy at my store does hes one of the 2 know people by GW to be highly allergic to Finecast extended exposure could be lethal.

So he is either allergic to the hydrocarbons in the resin, unlikely cause he would also not like plastics *long evil laugh*, so it must be a curing agent or release agent.

Most likely as hes not allergic to the FW resin and tbh hes not happy since every hero will become finecast eventually and don't think Gw would offer an alternative for him xD

If he's not allergic to FW models, it's not the resin, so it's likely the release agent. Tell him to wear gloves, and wash them in soapy water with a toothbrush. He should really be doing this anyway.

Ill pass the info on however he did mention even after preparing and painting the models it still cause him to react.