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Two people have voted 10/10 so far. I can only assume these people have either never seen an issue of WD before or are simply incapable of reading.

Wait... your supposed to read it? I thought it was just for the pictures.

Can I amend my rating down to 1? Picked up WD383 (the Necron edition for those with transatlantic issue no. confusion) and I believe this is the worst edition of the magazine ever.

I often bemoan the absence of modelling articles from the old days (make a barn out of balsa wood, that kind of thing), but they did at least maintain the instructive painting tutorials. Now even these have disappeared. There is not a single worthwhile painting article in the whole magazine... unless you are one of the two people who own an unpainted battle sister miniature - in which case, you get half a page... It is purely an advert for Necrons with the seemingly contractual nod to LoTR and a dull Ogre Kingdoms tactica.

You might argue Necron players might be interested, but there is nothing here they won't learn in a week's time or indeed from Yak's comprehensive sneak peak in News and Rumours. Seriously, save that £4.50 and keep 22.5% of the Codex price in your pocket.

The WD team have hit rock bottom... and have started up a pneumatic drill.

That bad, hey Flashman?

Pity, well good job my local stores still have the Dreadfleet issue up (as it's hardly sold)

I only get it now if its got a decent/useful painting article in it. TBH I think magazines have gone down hill in general, not just WD. I used to buy Empire but you flick through it and it's just like WD - lots of ads/pictures - few words. I was flicking through an old issue (138) and I think that less graphic design helped in putting out content, as your content had to be words. It's like the graphic designers have taken over (shudders). It's a shame as there's so much they could do with that space - again it's frustrating to see.

I gave 3/10 - for the painting articles (if they appear). Otherwise, it's pretty pointless. I can skim read it for a minute with no need to buy it.

Used to love it but nower days not so much..wouldn't give it more than 4/10

Who voted ten then?!?

Not Kan?!

Not Warglock?!

Step forward damnit, explain yourself before your vote causes a temporal rift in causal relationships and dooms the galaxy!

I gave it a 5.

I like the magazine in general, but for me it's for looking at pictures of army men while I'm on my "golden throne". I like having the pics of great new models all painted up good and in a magazine that I can flip through and I read parts of it here and there. I know it's just 1 big GW ad.

I do like the newer direction of adding new rules and stuff and that really needs to continue. Like the SoB codex, and even just the datafaxes for the orgre monsters for storm of magic was a nice addition.

What I don't like is the most recent idea of delaying it when every other magazine under the sun arrives weeks before the street date for subscribers. This month, it was Oct 16th and my October issue didn't show up yet. I called customer service and they shipped me one immediately since those guys are so nice. I got it within 3 days.. then 2 days later, my subscription issue showed up. I would have rather just not gotten it at all, having it show up that late is a great way for GW to say "yeah, sorry, but we don't care"

And the price? Every other magazine out there is cheaper for subscribers, why does WD have to be different? I'm sure it's expensive to produce like any other printed material is, but still. In the end, there is really no benefit at all to subscribing, other than having it delivered to you instead of buying it in a store. y... a... y...

My subscription is going to run out I think in Feb, and desipite the newer stuff they've been adding in, it's going to take a lot more to get me to keep my subscription going. I want a timely (read, earlier) delivery and a lower subscription price. I know the later will never happen, but 1 out of 2 ain't bad...

It's a useless rag and has been for years and years.

At least those plant catalogues you get in the tv guide are free, GW has the audacity to charge a fortune for it's own promotional flyer.

Totally worthless. I'll continue to pay my $25 per year for a far superior online gaming media source!

Not Jervis?


Gave it a 4 myself, I heartily recommend this to people who are interested in catalogues and are afraid of google.

This is by far the finest catalogue I have come across so far, it even occasionally has painting articles which is a fair bit more content than the average catalogue. In all seriousness though, the few painting articles it does have in it are nice at times, though not worth the $12 price tag.

n0t_u wrote:Not Jervis?

Certainly not, his Standard Bearer article is self aggrandizement of the worst kind. Even that is used as a marketing tool. It's repellent, arrogant and tepid.

So even he could not give the WD a perfect 10, even if just for letting him ramble for a moment.

If I could give it 0/10, I would. It's a promotional flyer the reader needs to pay for.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Two people have voted 10/10 so far. I can only assume these people have either never seen an issue of WD before or are simply incapable of reading.

Apparently it works VERY well as toilet paper....

At the price to content ratio its not worth it. Old White Dwarf issues were full of content but now its just a monthly catalog. If i wanted to read it i would rather spend 30 bucks for gas money to drive to grapevine, skim the magazine for a minute, and then drive back home in the thick of the worst dallas traffic; than buy a subscription.

And anyone that knows me or read my "drive to a good store" rant knows i hate that drive.

Varrick wrote: At the price to content ratio its not worth it. Old White Dwarf issues were full of content but now its just a monthly catalog. If i wanted to read it i would rather spend 30 bucks for gas money to drive to grapevine, skim the magazine for a minute, and then drive back home in the thick of the worst dallas traffic; than buy a subscription.

And anyone that knows me or read my "drive to a good store" rant knows i hate that drive.

why dont you just order your stuff from the internet? There are billions of online-shops out there.

White dwarf is just an expensive monthly catalogue. used to be that they included real stuff like modelling articles on how to make battle damage, how to make terrain, how to make etc. Now, mostly adds for new stuff and armies i will never buy. who needs it.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Totally worthless. I'll continue to pay my $25 per year for a far superior online gaming media source!

You know it's kind of ironic that for all the GW bashing we engage in on this site, Dakka is the first place I come for my GW fix. It may come across as breeding ground for GW haters, but a couple of hours browsing on Dakka, notably on the painting and modelling forums, does more to increase my enthusiasm for the hobby than GW does with 12 months of WD "content".

Seriously, GW should pay Dakka money.

It's the only printed hobby mag there is, so i gotta like it or lunk it. I wish they'd replace the lotr feature with rotating information on each of the specialist games (making lotr a specialist game too). They should 50/50 the fantasy / 40k stuff across the magazine using as much space as is the whole mag has now, add a few pages for the specialist content and remove the store adds which I guess noone ever reads anyway

kitch102 wrote:It's the only printed hobby mag there is, so i gotta like it or lunk it.

Rubbish.

If it were that would be rather depressing.

I don't really see the point. For the price I'd rather get some paints/more models/food.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

kitch102 wrote:It's the only printed hobby mag there is, so i gotta like it or lunk it.

Rubbish.

Please, feel free to expand on that, and tell me what my other options are for GW products (in the UK). Unless you'd prefer to stick to one word answers that do nothing to tell me otherwise.

I bought every single issue that had an 'eavy metal masterclass and each one was a great purchase. Since they stopped doing those I haven't touched one beyond a cursory skimming of the store copy. I'm very happy to pay £4.50 for a good masterclass, but without those it's pretty worthless

kitch102 wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

kitch102 wrote:It's the only printed hobby mag there is, so i gotta like it or lunk it.

Rubbish.

Please, feel free to expand on that, and tell me what my other options are for GW products (in the UK). Unless you'd prefer to stick to one word answers that do nothing to tell me otherwise.

Immediately I can think of both Wargames Illustrated and Miniatures Wargames both available in WHSmiths. They aren't slavishly dedicated to GW products but do mention them alongside many other manufacturers. So your claim that WD is it the only hobby magazine out there is patently false.

Flashman wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Totally worthless. I'll continue to pay my $25 per year for a far superior online gaming media source!

You know it's kind of ironic that for all the GW bashing we engage in on this site, Dakka is the first place I come for my GW fix. It may come across as breeding ground for GW haters, but a couple of hours browsing on Dakka, notably on the painting and modelling forums, does more to increase my enthusiasm for the hobby than GW does with 12 months of WD "content".

Seriously, GW should pay Dakka money.

Yep, lots of GW rage on Dakka. Kinda funny.

Thanks for letting me know, I had no idea there were other mags out there, and I really wouldn't let that bother you

Seriously? You must have pushed them out of the way to get at White Dwarf.

Howard A Treesong wrote:Seriously? You must have pushed them out of the way to get at White Dwarf.

No mate, I rarely step foot in WHS as I find it over priced (who's calling dibs on the "yet you collect GW?!" comment?), if I'm after a book I'll go to play.com. I used to pick up WD from my flgs when I went in for supplies, but now have one of those subscription deals where you just pay £9 every 3 months.

Had a quick look at the Wargames Illustrated site, sure it was only a cursory glance but I can't say I'm illustrated, I prefer the GW models and as these are the only ones I'm in to it makes sense that I stick to WD and get some scrap of information on models and fluff etc that I'm interested in than lots of information on something that I couldn't care less about to be honest

2/10

I wasn't there at the beginning, but I started reading it off and on around '94 and even though it had already become a catalog-disguised as a magazine, there was still some creativity, DIY, special deals, and support for games other than the big 3. Back then it was probably a 6-7/10.

Now the DIY, Special deals (no more free kit with subscription or special mail-order offers) other games and most creativity is all gone, yet it costs about 50% more!

It would have been 1/10 but I gave it a "2" because it's still a monthly source for some of the best painted miniatures in the biz and it's definitley worth the $1 I pay for it when it appears in the back-issue sale bin.

kitch102 wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:Seriously? You must have pushed them out of the way to get at White Dwarf.

No mate, I rarely step foot in WHS as I find it over priced (who's calling dibs on the "yet you collect GW?!" comment?), if I'm after a book I'll go to play.com. I used to pick up WD from my flgs when I went in for supplies, but now have one of those subscription deals where you just pay £9 every 3 months.

I thought that WHS had stopped selling WD anyway?