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So that means that every rule that supports the theory including evolution are wrong? Even Einstiens theory of relativity supports it, your not telling me thats wrong.

Even though Neutrinos if found to be faster than light disprove it, but It's a miscalculation. It worries me it's not been found yet.

More tests should and are being conducted though.

Howard A Treesong wrote:
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Aerethan wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:hmmm.....do they have milk there? how bout potatoes? if not,they arnt worth are time

According to a source of mine, you can milk anything with nipples, so odds are there is milk. Not sure about potatoes.

Reports of men lactating are pretty low (not zero surprisingly enough).

Galactorrhea is a medical condition which causes the nipples to lactate spontaneously. Men and women can lactate and its partly psychological, in fact there is a phenomenon known as "Sympathetic Pregnancy" where a father will experience similar symptoms as the mother. Its partially believed to be related to a potential envy of the mother being able to give birth and the father being unable to do so, but after watching videos of childbirth in EMT classes I fail to see how anyone could envy that. Still makes me shudder.

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

this guy knows his science.


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nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

this guy knows his science.


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nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

I hope to god that you're joking at this last bit.

Wire can't fossilise.

Just sayin'.

halonachos wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

this guy knows his science.


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nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

I hope to god that you're joking at this last bit.

nope. probably explained it horribly,but its true. they found fossilized wire they thought was some ancient dinosaur thing.

Carbon dating being accurate and all that, look your not going to persuade us without proper retorts.

Using cliched picture to explain a point does little more than amuse, unless that's your intended goal.

Explain how the Planets are all constantly moving away from the same point in the Universe? If you don't believe Scientists experiments you can do it yourself with a Telescope and plotting chart.

corpsesarefun wrote:Wire can't fossilise.

Just sayin'.

Evolution = FALSE.

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

I wonder what an evil Malfs's view on socks would be ?
I mean...would he gather them up and set them on fire?...run from them?

InquisitorVaron wrote:The meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs due to then being reptiles and unable to regulate temperature also contained bacteria that was effectively the standard template construct for sentient beings.

What? No where do you get that from?

Some people suggest that bacterial cells arrived from space but that was at the origin of life on earth. By the time that the dinosaurs died out mammals were already present on Earth and would evolve into humans.

I don't know why you think that cells to create sentient beings only arrived on the planet 65 million years ago. That's a new one on me.

corpsesarefun wrote:Wire can't fossilise.

Just sayin'.

but the mud and rock that gets around it can. just like how that stuff sticks to fossils.

FITZZ wrote:

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

I wonder what an evil Malfs's view on socks would be ?
I mean...would he gather them up and set them on fire?...run from them?

Maybe he'd knit them and throw them at people rather than taking them?

So you believe Jean Paul Llamrick and his gained characteristics work? So we all originate from Worms.
Evoloution has no major flaws, If you can point one out that doesn't have a decent retort then you arguements have merit.

lord commissar klimino wrote:
nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

Hrrrrrrgh. My head hurts.

FITZZ wrote:

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

I wonder what an evil Malfs's view on socks would be ?
I mean...would he gather them up and set them on fire?...run from them?

Socks would be to Evil Malfred as toys are to the Bergermeister.

The one issue I have with evolution is that it seems to have stopped in certain species and if it is supposed to continue then we should see more variations than what our ancestors did. But I still believe in it, the trick to being a Christian and a scientist is to believe that science just explains god's work. I got into an argument with someone who said that religion isn't needed anymore, she said that its like if you took a wind-up toy and set it off. At first you would think its some sort of magic before realizing that its actually springs. I told her that I would wonder how and why it was made and that is where religion comes into play. Seriously the more I learn about the everyday processes the human body goes through the more I believe that there was something with its hands in the primordial cookie jar. The chances for mistake are insane.

InquisitorVaron wrote:Carbon dating being accurate and all that, look your not going to persuade us without proper retorts.

Using cliched picture to explain a point does little more than amuse, unless that's your intended goal.

Explain how the Planets are all constantly moving away from the same point in the Universe? If you don't believe Scientists experiments you can do it yourself with a Telescope and plotting chart.

Yeah so writing a personal statement sucks.

Firstly there is no single point all the planets are moving away from, rather space itself is expanding causing EVERYTHING to take up more space and move apart.

Secondly I've had this chat with him before, he doesn't shift on the matter

InquisitorVaron wrote:So that means that every rule that supports the theory including evolution are wrong? Even Einstiens theory of relativity supports it, your not telling me thats wrong.

Even though Neutrinos if found to be faster than light disprove it, but It's a miscalculation. It worries me it's not been found yet.

More tests should and are being conducted though.

Please stop.

Relativity is totally unrelated to evolution and there is no way you can state with any certainty that the kerfuffle with neutrinos is due to a miscalculation.

lord commissar klimino wrote:nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

Have you got some sort of source for this that we can actually read? Because I'm not about to reject some of the fundamental ideas of modern science based on a confused recount of some claim online. I mean dinosaurs aren't a billion years old for a start so it doesn't strike me as a well informed post.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:Wire can't fossilise.

Just sayin'.

but the mud and rock that gets around it can. just like how that stuff sticks to fossils.

Fossilisation is the process by which organic matter turns to stone, simply encasing something in mud does not make it a fossil.

infinite_array wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:
nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

Hrrrrrrgh. My head hurts.

they found a ball of fossilized mud and rock.they thought it was a dinosaur. they broke it ope,inside they found human made wire that couldn't bee that old.

maybe i should mention they got it from the ocean.

We've sent probes to Venus, AND to Mercury. Pretty sure we would of noticed SOMETHING floating out there on the way. And not to mention that the orbit would have to be SO precisely perfect to ours, that I think we could all win the the mega millions by the time the odds added up. No way. The only thing I would think maybe on, is that "planet X" thats suppose to be really close to the sun and is a black planet. That one, only because the Sun is a real bitch to photograph.

halonachos wrote:

FITZZ wrote:

malfred wrote:There can't be a counter earth.

My proof?

A counter earth would have an evil malfred, and we all know I'd
look ridiculous in a goatee. Therefore, an evil malfred couldn't
exist.

I wonder what an evil Malfs's view on socks would be ?
I mean...would he gather them up and set them on fire?...run from them?

Socks would be to Evil Malfred as toys are to the Bergermeister.

So he'd break his leg tripping over them and outlaw them?...sounds reasonable.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

InquisitorVaron wrote:The meteorite that wiped out the dinosaurs due to then being reptiles and unable to regulate temperature also contained bacteria that was effectively the standard template construct for sentient beings.

What? No where do you get that from?

Some people suggest that bacterial cells arrived from space but that was at the origin of life on earth. By the time that the dinosaurs died out mammals were already present on Earth and would evolve into humans.

I don't know why you think that cells to create sentient beings only arrived on the planet 65 million years ago. That's a new one on me.

That's an oddball whack that I wanted to add in. I don't believe that don't worry
Sorry if that comes across as trying to save myself from sounding like an Idiot, I have to have some whacky outlet.

The dinosaurs were wiped out because they were reptiles though, they couldn't regulate their heat to the cold climate whereas the mammals can and survived the conditions. Survival of the fittest.

lord commissar klimino wrote:


they found a ball of fossilized mud and rock.they thought it was a dinosaur. they broke it ope,inside they found human made wire that couldn't bee that old.

maybe i should mention they got it from the ocean.

Oh I think I remember that story.

Some folks found a big lump of mudstone in a region where fossils preserved in mudstone is relatively common (still bloody rare though) and spent quite a bit of money on extracting it only to find it was a bit of wire that had become encased in mudstone.

That doesn't invalidate all fossil evidence though...

Howard A Treesong wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

Have you got some sort of source for this that we can actually read? Because I'm not about to reject some of the fundamental ideas of modern science based on a confused recount of some claim online. I mean dinosaurs aren't a billion years old for a start so it doesn't strike me as a well informed post.

http://creation.com/fascinating-fossil-fence-wire

corpsesarefun wrote:

InquisitorVaron wrote:Carbon dating being accurate and all that, look your not going to persuade us without proper retorts.

Using cliched picture to explain a point does little more than amuse, unless that's your intended goal.

Explain how the Planets are all constantly moving away from the same point in the Universe? If you don't believe Scientists experiments you can do it yourself with a Telescope and plotting chart.

Yeah so writing a personal statement sucks.

Firstly there is no single point all the planets are moving away from, rather space itself is expanding causing EVERYTHING to take up more space and move apart.

Secondly I've had this chat with him before, he doesn't shift on the matter

InquisitorVaron wrote:So that means that every rule that supports the theory including evolution are wrong? Even Einstiens theory of relativity supports it, your not telling me thats wrong.

Even though Neutrinos if found to be faster than light disprove it, but It's a miscalculation. It worries me it's not been found yet.

More tests should and are being conducted though.

Please stop.

Relativity is totally unrelated to evolution and there is no way you can state with any certainty that the kerfuffle with neutrinos is due to a miscalculation.

Didn't they do several tests that had it moving faster than the speed of light after the first test?

Corpses, I know. The relativity bit was for the Big Bang, not evolution. They both agree with the Big Bang afterall.

Sorry I was wrong about the expansion, I mixed it up with another something, that and it being 3:20AM doesn't help.

Thanks for the heads up on the matter.

They did a lot of tests and found it happened a statistically significant amount of the time, current ideas coming from CERN is that the neutrinos cheated and took a shorter path through other spacial dimensions which gave the illusion of them moving faster than light.

I agree with that current theory, It reminds me of the theory that there is only one electron but It moves through time and space to be everywhere. Still valid suprisingly.

I do think miscalculation is possible It my thoughts on what happened, not what did. The margin for error is minute and the measurement of distance is perfectly accurate IMO.

lord commissar klimino wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

lord commissar klimino wrote:nope,not a fan of evolution either. did you know fossils could easilt not be that old? the found human made wire fossilized in the ocean that couldn't be older than a thousand years old yet at 1st they thought it was a billion year old dino or some other thing. until they broke it open.

Have you got some sort of source for this that we can actually read? Because I'm not about to reject some of the fundamental ideas of modern science based on a confused recount of some claim online. I mean dinosaurs aren't a billion years old for a start so it doesn't strike me as a well informed post.

http://creation.com/fascinating-fossil-fence-wire

Now you do realise that site is written by religious quacks who may have a slight bias and don't and not report actual scientific findings.

They are in fact full on six day young earth creationists.

The days in Genesis do not correspond to geologic ages, but are six [6] consecutive twenty-four [24] hour days of Creation.

Not to be taken seriously by anyone at all.

By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.

Basically if it doesn't fit the bible then it's not valid evidence.

Durrrr, if I read that moronic site too much I might catch the stupid from them.

InquisitorVaron wrote:I agree with that current theory, It reminds me of the theory that there is only one electron but It moves through time and space to be everywhere. Still valid suprisingly.

You are getting slightly muddled again.

Quantum theory dictates that every single electron (not one electron) is everywhere and everywhen at once until observed at which point it collapses to the observed location.