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(Flicking into a book) oh yes.

purplefood wrote:

zilegil wrote:Most dark Eldar are capable of useing psychic powers, just they don't in fear of Slannesh. But that does not really matter, because this is from the imperial point of view and of course they have limited knowledge of the Eldar.

I'm not sure but IIRC the DE codex states that their psychic ability has shrunk to almost nothing.

I think this is correct, they can not really use psychic powers.

Well sometimes the books change the fluff to suite their needs to create an interesting story. Typically we read books, watch movies, or whatever to see the exceptions to the standard. One good example is that main gk from the books Alric. That mandrake posed as a striking scorpion most of the Hammer of Daemons novel.

Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

Ronin wrote:

Stormfather wrote:In Blood Gorgons (Henry Zou), the main character (CSM) marvels at the reflexes of a Dark Eldar mercenary as he pilots a small craft through a larger Imperial vessel. He's so impressed by the Dark Eldar's reflexes that he postulates that their almost inconceivable reflexes could be attributed to some form of psychic prescience.

Hm, that's interesting. Been wanting to read stuff by Zou, but I thought Dark Eldar are physically incapable of psychic ability, since its atrophied from non-use.

I think it was an in-character erroneous observation, sort of a 'faster reflexes than me? It must be sorcery!' knee-jerk response on the CSM's part.

purplefood wrote:Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

If you read all 3 of the books he states himself along with several other characters he isn't typical. As far as the the mandrake it's just an example of a written de-ish character displayed reflexes. Codex is irrelevant when the topic is a written example lol

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

If you read all 3 of the books he states himself along with several other characters he isn't typical. As far as the the mandrake it's just an example of a written de-ish character displayed reflexes. Codex is irrelevant when the topic is a written example lol

The written examples are always subject to changes in the codeci...

purplefood wrote:

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

If you read all 3 of the books he states himself along with several other characters he isn't typical. As far as the the mandrake it's just an example of a written de-ish character displayed reflexes. Codex is irrelevant when the topic is a written example lol

The written examples are always subject to changes in the codeci...

You are correct sir but that's any 40k fluff I'm finding out more each day..

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

If you read all 3 of the books he states himself along with several other characters he isn't typical. As far as the the mandrake it's just an example of a written de-ish character displayed reflexes. Codex is irrelevant when the topic is a written example lol

The written examples are always subject to changes in the codeci...

You are correct sir but that's any 40k fluff I'm finding out more each day..

Not really...
If it's in the codex it's canon.
The other stuff can be invalidated by a simple change in the codex.
The IA and RPG stuff tends to be too in depth to be really affected by a codex change. Though when it is you can usually claim 'exception to the rule' since it focusses (usually) on very particular things e.g. a single battle, campaign, area etc

purplefood wrote:

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

If you read all 3 of the books he states himself along with several other characters he isn't typical. As far as the the mandrake it's just an example of a written de-ish character displayed reflexes. Codex is irrelevant when the topic is a written example lol

The written examples are always subject to changes in the codeci...

You are correct sir but that's any 40k fluff I'm finding out more each day..

Not really...
If it's in the codex it's canon.
The other stuff can be invalidated by a simple change in the codex.
The IA and RPG stuff tends to be too in depth to be really affected by a codex change. Though when it is you can usually claim 'exception to the rule' since it focusses (usually) on very particular things e.g. a single battle, campaign, area etc

Some canon has been affected y other sources. For example the blood ravens from the dawn of war games. As far as codex fluff ive had my fill of those discussions and the vast changes that have occured lol

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Draigo wrote:

purplefood wrote:Well the DE codex is newer than all the books with representations of DE in them...
Alaric was fairly standard for GK at the time but it has been proceeded by the new GK codex.

If you read all 3 of the books he states himself along with several other characters he isn't typical. As far as the the mandrake it's just an example of a written de-ish character displayed reflexes. Codex is irrelevant when the topic is a written example lol

The written examples are always subject to changes in the codeci...

You are correct sir but that's any 40k fluff I'm finding out more each day..

Not really...
If it's in the codex it's canon.
The other stuff can be invalidated by a simple change in the codex.
The IA and RPG stuff tends to be too in depth to be really affected by a codex change. Though when it is you can usually claim 'exception to the rule' since it focusses (usually) on very particular things e.g. a single battle, campaign, area etc

Some canon has been affected y other sources. For example the blood ravens from the dawn of war games. As far as codex fluff ive had my fill of those discussions and the vast changes that have occured lol

Lets just ignore that...
Fun games but anything connected with DoW tends to play havoc with fluff.

purplefood wrote:

zilegil wrote:Most dark Eldar are capable of useing psychic powers, just they don't in fear of Slannesh. But that does not really matter, because this is from the imperial point of view and of course they have limited knowledge of the Eldar.

I'm not sure but IIRC the DE codex states that their psychic ability has shrunk to almost nothing.

Yep. Though I also suspect that any DE psykers are either offed or keep themselves well under wraps. Baron whatshisface in the codex got into trouble because he brought a Farseerer into the Dark City. DE really, really, don't like messing with psykers.

daveNYC wrote:

purplefood wrote:

zilegil wrote:Most dark Eldar are capable of useing psychic powers, just they don't in fear of Slannesh. But that does not really matter, because this is from the imperial point of view and of course they have limited knowledge of the Eldar.

I'm not sure but IIRC the DE codex states that their psychic ability has shrunk to almost nothing.

Yep. Though I also suspect that any DE psykers are either offed or keep themselves well under wraps. Baron whatshisface in the codex got into trouble because he brought a Farseerer into the Dark City. DE really, really, don't like messing with psykers.

Unless they are dead/being killed.

In the Horus Heresy Chapbook Promethean Suns Vulkan fights off a DE raiding Party, The fact that one of the Wyches escapes him reflects on DE agillity. Has some pretty good examples of DE agillity in it.

According to the codex even Dark Eldar the basic troops go into battle with the speed and skill of an acrobat, and their 'heavy' troops such as incubi despite their heavy armour move silently and with the same speed as the rest of the dark eldar.

The only DE that don't move with speed and grace are the coven creatures, the lumbering flesh hulks such as Grotesques and Wracks, and the twisted Haemonculi who move with a slow graceful determination.

Ovion wrote:According to the codex even Dark Eldar the basic troops go into battle with the speed and skill of an acrobat, and their 'heavy' troops such as incubi despite their heavy armour move silently and with the same speed as the rest of the dark eldar.

The only DE that don't move with speed and grace are the coven creatures, the lumbering flesh hulks such as Grotesques and Wracks, and the twisted Haemonculi who move with a slow graceful determination.

This is correct, if I am not mistaken.

forruner_mercy wrote:Are there any fluff examples showing the gracefulness and agility of Dark Eldar? I know that in that one IG book involving the Tallarn mentions the DE, but is there anything else?

Also, does anyone know what page in the DE Codex I can find the part where it talks about Imperials having to slow down videos of DE just to see what they are doing?

It was in the old dex, right at the beginning. There was a pic of a Reaver from a Dreadnought and it said before theat the video had gad to have been slowed down to distinguish it from a blur.


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