Calls to sack Clarkson

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**Jackal**

Something that any good parent would do if they had the cash to do so.

Two sides to everything my friend.
OK, they get a somewhat higher level of education, most of which though tend to become far too snobby and stuck up as a result of this.
Mummy and daddy tend to do alot for spoilt children.

Im sorry, but throwing money at a child does not make them any better, no matter what it is you have brought them with it.
You simply keep the child in his/her own little safe bubble away from the real world.

If given the choice i would have turned down private schools anyway.
I would also refuse to pay for a child to attend one.
Character and morals are not earned through throwing money at something.

Anyways, back on topic: Nothing wrong with clarkson.
Been this way for years, will be the same for years to come.
Its simply a case of him being himself and throwing out jokes that may case some offence.

However, there are allways people to complain, its a trend now.

**KingCracker**

Yikes, I think some people are seriously over reactting to what he said. I mena, you could CLEARLY tell he was making light of it. I mean before he said it he even says "Oh this is the BBC, so it needs abit of balancing doesnt it?" then jokes about having those people shot. Cmon now......wheres the sense of humor in them? He said Much worse things when their show came to America, it could of easily been taken very insultingly, but instead of being insulted, I was to busy crying from laughing at what he was saying

**Paul**

I sugest everyone read what he actualy said... He made it clear it was a joke and not his view. He was being facetious.

The one we should have a problem with is the union boss, the defender of working rights, calling for someone to be sacked without fair process.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15993549

**ArbeitsSchu**

Depends how you want to interpret it really. He may not say such things when he's out and about in Donny because he knows he'll get grief. Or it could be read as evidence that it really is put on for TV, and that he doesn't actually think anything of the sort.

Good example: My old manager said (for comedy effect) "Its been twenty years since they closed the mines. Retrain already. Get over it" whilst sat at the bar. Behind him, a gentleman stood up... "How fckin dare you...(cue very angry rant about mining and dead children and all manner of ills). It was quite funny watching my managers face drop as he realised he had made his "comedy joke" in front of a miner. I knew from experience that he was actually being satirical, but it took a LOT of explaining to the customer to stop him getting filled in. Even then, the outrage followed him around.

So yeah, it could be either. I would like to think that it is in fact the latter. Its always saddening to discover that someone claiming to be "putting on an act" isn't really acting at all.

**Goliath**

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Oh my, those poor over-privileged rich children with their vast fortunes, instant directorships and holidays to Aspen. Truly how terrible it is that they might be mocked....

feth off.

I go to a private school, and my parents are massively in debt putting me through it, even with my scholarship.

If you think that "Private School" automatically indicates someone who has massive amounts of money and influence, then you're sadly mistaken.

Both of my parents lived in council houses, and it's only through the fact that my mum has worked her metaphorical bollocks off that I can go to the school that I do.

On the topic of Clarkson, I am of the opinion that he's a massive tosser, partly influenced by the fact that my history teacher was a boarding master at the private school that Clarkson was "Unlucky" enough to attend and get kicked out of for swearing at a governor whilst returning from the pub at 1am, and by whose accounts, Clarkson was a thoroughly unpleasant person to be near.

Also on the topic of Clarkson, one of the children that you hear about in those occasional "Jeremy Clarkson swears at crying child" stories is in the year below me at school.

**Frazzled**

mattyrm wrote:
For example, If I walked into a pub and Islam4UK were having their yearly get together I think it would be eminently sensible to keep my mouth shut.

See if I walked into a pub ad that was occurring my first thought would be: 1) Holy crap how did I get to England? 2) Holy crap am I in England? 3) Holy crap the Haggis Police can finally get me for all the jokes I made about haggis!; 4) Holy crap what are all these people saying? Its like English but...wrong...

**Paul**

ArbeitsSchu wrote:Depends how you want to interpret it really. He may not say such things when he's out and about in Donny because he knows he'll get grief. Or it could be read as evidence that it really is put on for TV, and that he doesn't actually think anything of the sort.

Good example: My old manager said (for comedy effect) "Its been twenty years since they closed the mines. Retrain already. Get over it" whilst sat at the bar. Behind him, a gentleman stood up... "How fckin dare you...(cue very angry rant about mining and dead children and all manner of ills). It was quite funny watching my managers face drop as he realised he had made his "comedy joke" in front of a miner. I knew from experience that he was actually being satirical, but it took a LOT of explaining to the customer to stop him getting filled in. Even then, the outrage followed him around.

So yeah, it could be either. I would like to think that it is in fact the latter. Its always saddening to discover that someone claiming to be "putting on an act" isn't really acting at all.

Ye, a good example of how people take things far to seriously (my father in law was a miner btw).

**Jackal**

See if I walked into a pub ad that was occurring my first thought would be: 1) Holy crap how did I get to England? 2) Holy crap am I in England? 3) Holy crap the Haggis Police can finally get me for all the jokes I made about haggis!; 4) Holy crap what are all these people saying? Its like English but...wrong...

5) pop round for some 40k, drinking and ribs

**Frazzled**

Jackal wrote:
See if I walked into a pub ad that was occurring my first thought would be: 1) Holy crap how did I get to England? 2) Holy crap am I in England? 3) Holy crap the Haggis Police can finally get me for all the jokes I made about haggis!; 4) Holy crap what are all these people saying? Its like English but...wrong...

5) pop round for some 40k, drinking and ribs

Well, you do have excellent beer. I'd have to introduce you to something called Tex-Mex. Afterwards you may have astrange desire to get on a horse and invade some innocent poor unsuspecting neighboring country that also has excelent hooch (looks in Belgium's direction).

**Corpsesarefun**

Goliath wrote:
ArbeitsSchu wrote:Oh my, those poor over-privileged rich children with their vast fortunes, instant directorships and holidays to Aspen. Truly how terrible it is that they might be mocked....

feth off.

I go to a private school, and my parents are massively in debt putting me through it, even with my scholarship.

If you think that "Private School" automatically indicates someone who has massive amounts of money and influence, then you're sadly mistaken.

Both of my parents lived in council houses, and it's only through the fact that my mum has worked her metaphorical bollocks off that I can go to the school that I do.

On the topic of Clarkson, I am of the opinion that he's a massive tosser, partly influenced by the fact that my history teacher was a boarding master at the private school that Clarkson was "Unlucky" enough to attend and get kicked out of for swearing at a governor whilst returning from the pub at 1am, and by whose accounts, Clarkson was a thoroughly unpleasant person to be near.

Also on the topic of Clarkson, one of the children that you hear about in those occasional "Jeremy Clarkson swears at crying child" stories is in the year below me at school.

The majority of people that attend private schools can afford it, just because you're family actually worked for it (which I respect hugely) doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of people born with the "right" to attend private schools.

**ArbeitsSchu**

Goliath wrote:
ArbeitsSchu wrote:Oh my, those poor over-privileged rich children with their vast fortunes, instant directorships and holidays to Aspen. Truly how terrible it is that they might be mocked....

feth off.

I go to a private school, and my parents are massively in debt putting me through it, even with my scholarship.

If you think that "Private School" automatically indicates someone who has massive amounts of money and influence, then you're sadly mistaken.

Both of my parents lived in council houses, and it's only through the fact that my mum has worked her metaphorical bollocks off that I can go to the school that I do.

I'm sure that's very exciting for you, and i wish you well in your education. You've been given a great opportunity, so I'm not going to lose any sleep that you might decide that you are being unfairly treated. There are people who live in stately homes who are massively in debt. They still live in stately homes.

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Paul wrote:
ArbeitsSchu wrote:Depends how you want to interpret it really. He may not say such things when he's out and about in Donny because he knows he'll get grief. Or it could be read as evidence that it really is put on for TV, and that he doesn't actually think anything of the sort.

Good example: My old manager said (for comedy effect) "Its been twenty years since they closed the mines. Retrain already. Get over it" whilst sat at the bar. Behind him, a gentleman stood up... "How fckin dare you...(cue very angry rant about mining and dead children and all manner of ills). It was quite funny watching my managers face drop as he realised he had made his "comedy joke" in front of a miner. I knew from experience that he was actually being satirical, but it took a LOT of explaining to the customer to stop him getting filled in. Even then, the outrage followed him around.

So yeah, it could be either. I would like to think that it is in fact the latter. Its always saddening to discover that someone claiming to be "putting on an act" isn't really acting at all.

Ye, a good example of how people take things far to seriously (my father in law was a miner btw).

I was kind of hoping he might mention how much he admired Margaret Thatcher. They'd have set him on fire for that.

**notprop**

Not sure how it takes a yank ti point out the truth in this story. Well posted Mr Cracker.

Storm in a tea cup on a slow news day. At worst the media attempting to smeer Cameron fit his friendship with Clarkson.

Any way how could he have made the joke work by saying the strikers should have been sacked. It would have been too close to public opinion to be funny.

**SilverMK2**

Jackal wrote:STUFF

Think you kind of missed the point. Not all that many children will choose what school they go to - if their parents send them to the local comp, a private school, what choice does the child actually have?

Hating them because they had no choice in how they were brought up is all kinds of silly. In the same way that it is kind of silly to hate someone because their parents were dirt poor and paid no attention to their child or their education.

**Flashman**

mattyrm wrote:For example, If I walked into a pub and Islam4UK were having their yearly get together I think it would be eminently sensible to keep my mouth shut.

Hang on a sec... what are Islam4UK doing in a pub?

**Castiel**

Give the man a medal for putting the stuffed shirts noses out of joint. Sack the union bosses for over-reacting, and then send them for a sense of humour implant.

The only way to make it more clear it was a joke would have been if he was holding a sign saying "Joke" as he made it.

**mattyrm**

Flashman wrote:
mattyrm wrote:For example, If I walked into a pub and Islam4UK were having their yearly get together I think it would be eminently sensible to keep my mouth shut.

Hang on a sec... what are Islam4UK doing in a pub?

Oh yeah, because Religious people never say one thing and do the other do they?

Look what you started me on!

**Frazzled**

How can you tell an Episcopal from a Baptist?

The Episcopal will say hello to you in the liquor store.

**George Spiggott**

Hasn't the One show been flagging in the ratings since the human potato and that woman left? How terribly untimely and unfortunate that this has been picked up on.

BBC news should be congratulated for their dedication.

Since Jeremy Clarkson works for the BBC is he not also a public servant? Up against the wall jezza!

Time for one last bit of entertainment for your wife and kids!

**Azza007**

I agree completely about the legal side being ridiculous. However I still think it is just too many times that he has wound people up like this. I can see the funny side to the joke, but still made me cringe. What makes me biased is that I had mates out on the picket line, and if I had actually started my new job, I could have been with them (got a job with NHS).

**H.B.M.C.**

Police investigation for what? All he's done is offend some people. If you get offended nothing happens - you just get offended. Move on.

**Howard A Treesong**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Police investigation for what? All he's done is offend some people. If you get offended nothing happens - you just get offended. Move on.

People are being offended because they are being shown the 'offending' section out of context as it's being reported by the media elsewhere. It's really pathetic, it's a great example of how selective reporting can twist a story to the needs of journalist.

Matt Baker: And we've got Jeremy Clarkson!

Jeremy Clarkson: Thank you very much.

Matt Baker: So Jeremy, schools, hospitals, airports, even driving tests have been affected. Do you the strikes are a good idea?

Jeremy Clarkson: It's been fantastic. Seriously, never had … London today has just been empty. Everybody stayed at home, you could whizz about, your restaurants were empty.

Alex Jones: The traffic actually has been very good today.

Jeremy Clarkson: Very light. Now airports, you know, people streaming through with no problems at all and it's also like being back in the 70s, it makes me feel at home somehow.

Alex Jones: Do you know anybody who …

Matt Baker: [interrupts – inaduiable] – being on strike today?

Jeremy Clarkson: What, in public service? Of course I don't. No, absolutely. We have to balance it though, don't we because this is the BBC.

Alex Jones and Matt Baker: Exactly.

Jeremy Clarkson: Frankly, I'd have them all shot!

[studio laughs]

Jeremy Clarkson: I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families. I mean how dare they go on strike when they've got these gilt-edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed while the rest of us have to work for a living?

Matt Baker: Well, on that note of balancing an opinion of course those are Jeremy's views.

Jeremy Clarkson: I just … ! I was just giving two views for you!

Alex Jones: Well, we will be talking to Jeremy more later.

It's pretty obvious from the full piece that he was not bothered by the strike and points out it was of no inconvenience to him. Then he jests that he has to 'balance it out' for impartiality so says something wildly stupid, and then finishes with saying that he was only giving "two views".

How much more obvious does it need to be it was a joke and not to be taken seriously? Those selectively reporting only the sentence in the middle can only be taking a mendacious approach for some agenda or other.

**purplefood**

People need to get a grip...

**Howard A Treesong**

purplefood wrote:People need to get a grip...

Indeed, and the newspapers need to stop stirring sh-t up to fling at the BBC.

**purplefood**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
purplefood wrote:People need to get a grip...

Indeed, and the newspapers need to stop stirring sh-t up to fling at the BBC.

The BBC has had a lot of sh!t flung at it in recent times...

**reds8n**

George Spiggott wrote:Hasn't the One show been flagging in the ratings since the human potato and that woman left? How terribly untimely and unfortunate that this has been picked up on.

Is it a book or a DVD that Mr. Clarkson is trying to flog for Xmas currently ?

I think it was pretty obvious he was joking. To be honest I winced more over the comments about people who commit suicide. Given the sad events of the weekend and the ongoing horror stories being dredged up in an ongoing inquiry I thought that was pretty poorly timed.

... funny how none of the newspapers started talking about that eh ?

**Melissia**

Funny how people are jumping to defend him saying "that's just who he is". Well "just who he is" is a freaking unrepentant jackass, why shouldn't his employment come up for review? I'd probably have been fired for something like that in my previous jobs...

**Medium of Death**

Sorry Melissia, but you're no Jezza.

I could see the point of somebody complaining because it trivialised a somewhat serious point the strikers are trying to make. Should public sector workers loose their pensions because the private sector can't run pension schemes correctly? Probably not.

Isn't that the point of humour though?

Jezza is a legend, if you can't see that he is joking I might as well come round and execute you in front of your family...

OH THE HILARITY!

**Velour_Fog**

Medium of Death wrote:
Jezza is a legend...

He is. Admittedly he does come out with some "iffy" things sometimes but I forgive him all that because Top Gear is so hilarious.

**Frazzled**

H.B.M.C. wrote:Police investigation for what? All he's done is offend some people. If you get offended nothing happens - you just get offended. Move on.

I think in the UK you can go to jail if you offend the wrong group. I think it extends from the royal practice of the right of the Queen to say "off with his head! and my feet hurt, someone bring me a nice fat pig to put my feet on" or something or other. Maybe its stems from Euro bureaucrats. Regardless, I think we've all learned something here, that it is wrong to be French.

**Mannahnin**

...or from Lichtenstein. [shakes fist]

Clarkson was a bit of a dick, but it was clearly a joke. Overreacting people are overreacting.