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I've got two of those old old `Fexes, though I replaced the talons with some of the later edition plastic ones. And I like the old plastic warriors too. The metal ones that came after SUCKED but those first plastic were cool. I like the current plastic ones too though.

DarkStarSabre wrote:IcyCool, you are so far off the mark with some of these here it isn't funny.

I'm guessing you missed the second post of mine (where I corrected myself on the Zoanthrope) in your haste to point out what, two errors?

DarkStarSabre wrote:Let's go in order shall we?

The Lictor is the 3rd edition Lictor.

I wasn't sure, because the body doesn't look like the 3rd edition Lictor body I have (it looks remarkably similar to my 2nd edition lictor body). The scything talons match, but mine could be a mish-mash of bits.

DarkStarSabre wrote:The Biovore is indeed a 3rd edition biovore. It is OOP, having been replaced by the 4th edition Biovore. It is no longer for sale through GW.

I think you are incorrect on this one, take a look at the current biovore and this one, they look to be the same. The only Biovores I currently have are 2nd edition ones, so I don't have a real-world example in front of me.

DarkStarSabre wrote:Same with the Zoanthrope. This has NOT been released in Finecast. The 4th edition Zoanthrope which replaced it has been.

Already addressed in this thread, in the post right above yours.

DarkStarSabre wrote:3rd edition Gargoyles. Infamous for their awkward wings.

Yep, not sure if this was meant as an argument or just an agreement.

DarkStarSabre wrote:3rd edition Carnifex. There was never a 3.5 edition Tyranid release.

Well, yes and no. There was a partial new release of a couple models before 4th edition. I believe there was a new Hive Tyrant in that release, and a few others. They are all technically 3rd edition.

IcyCool wrote:

DarkStarSabre wrote:The Biovore is indeed a 3rd edition biovore. It is OOP, having been replaced by the 4th edition Biovore. It is no longer for sale through GW.

I think you are incorrect on this one, take a look at the current biovore and this one, they look to be the same. The only Biovores I currently have are 2nd edition ones, so I don't have a real-world example in front of me.

Having 3 2nd edition Biovores, 2 3rd ed. Biovores and 2 4th ed. Biovores - I'm not wrong on this. The 3rd ed Biovore has a much smaller 'barrel' on him than his 4th edition descendant. In addition he has the ape-like arms and the middle pair of limbs is reaching up to grasp the sac. The one in the blister's not a 4th edition biovore. For one, the 4th edition blighter came in a box.

DarkStarSabre wrote:3rd edition Carnifex. There was never a 3.5 edition Tyranid release.

Well, yes and no. There was a partial new release of a couple models before 4th edition. I believe there was a new Hive Tyrant in that release, and a few others. They are all technically 3rd edition.

Nope. There was not a partial release. All the 3rd ed. Tyranids came out with their codex - Gaunts, Warriors, Carnifex, Hive Tyrant, Zoanthropes, Raveners, Gargoyles, Biovores and Lictor, as well as Old One Eye and the Red Terror. In fact, the only staggering was the Carnifex and the SCs coming out about 1 or 2 months after the rest.

There could be some confusion that the 'nids were the 2nd 4th edition army - which has given us the current Carnifex, Hive Tyrant, Biovores, Zoanthropes and Lictors. At the same time they also released 'newer' metal Raveners, since superseded by their plastic 5th edition release.

Trust me. I know 'nids. I spent a fair bit hunting down the older ones just to have a spread of different critters across my swarm as different genus critters.

IcyCool wrote:

compdrag wrote:well I was looking at the post and the zoanthrope is not the one I see in finecast. It is much different here is a picture of it assembled.

Ah, right, the "3.5" zoanthrope is the finecast one. Yours is the 3rd edition Zoanthrope.

It's a far cry from the old 2nd edition one though:

Oh its mine old Zoanthrope

Here is old Carnifex

I quite like the old Zoanthrope. The Lictor from this era was lovely.

I like all old models
PM me if someone want to trade Zoats

Spellscape wrote:Here is old Carnifex

Love that version to death. I'm the only one in my circle that thinks they look pretty awesome. I'm also warming up to RT zoes, they don't look that bad.

All in all, RT nids look like something I'd be shooting at in doom.

DarkStarSabre wrote:Nope. There was not a partial release. All the 3rd ed. Tyranids came out with their codex - Gaunts, Warriors, Carnifex, Hive Tyrant, Zoanthropes, Raveners, Gargoyles, Biovores and Lictor, as well as Old One Eye and the Red Terror. In fact, the only staggering was the Carnifex and the SCs coming out about 1 or 2 months after the rest.

Raveners weren't a 3rd edition addition, they were added with 4th edition in metal, and done in plastic for 5th edition.

Spellscape wrote:I like all old models
PM me if someone want to trade Zoats

PMed!

-Loki- wrote:

DarkStarSabre wrote:Nope. There was not a partial release. All the 3rd ed. Tyranids came out with their codex - Gaunts, Warriors, Carnifex, Hive Tyrant, Zoanthropes, Raveners, Gargoyles, Biovores and Lictor, as well as Old One Eye and the Red Terror. In fact, the only staggering was the Carnifex and the SCs coming out about 1 or 2 months after the rest.

Raveners weren't a 3rd edition addition, they were added with 4th edition in metal, and done in plastic for 5th edition.

There are 2 OOP Raveners from 3rd Ed codex


and 4th Ed

And Spellscape proves me right here.

Raveners did appear in 3rd edition. They had the options of Scything Talons, Rending Claws and Devourers - they actually carried the weapons rather than having them in their thorax.

3rd ed. Raveners were fugly beasties.

Yes by default Devourers - I swapped them for Rendering Claws

Man - I love OOP models - even some of them ARE strange and ugly

I actually like most of the 2nd edition and 3rd edition critters. Using the 3rd ed. Carnifexes for my Crushers for a Crusher Assault Brood for Apoc games (I have 5 ). The Raveners are the only thing I wasn't really fond of.

Also managed a steal and picked up 3 of the 2nd edition Lictors for £5!

Fun fact for 'nid collectors and those who complain about GW prices.

Tyranid Lictors have actually gotten cheaper over time.

The original 2nd edition Lictor was priced at £15. The 3rd edition Lictor was originally £8 as was the 4th edition Lictor. When the prices went up the metal peaked at £12.50.

Only Finecast has gotten past the 2nd edition prices....by 50p!

Yes metal tyranids are not popular this days

I even got OOP FW Trygon - and I like him MUCH more than GW plastic one

Agreed. It's why I have 2 of them. I even got them knowing the plastic ones were coming out - price didn't matter, they have that much more detail on them.

Raveners were added in 3rd Ed so the Tyranids had something in Fast Attack other than Gargoyles (Andy C didn't want to put Hormagaunts into FA).

DarkStarSabre wrote:Having 3 2nd edition Biovores, 2 3rd ed. Biovores and 2 4th ed. Biovores - I'm not wrong on this. The 3rd ed Biovore has a much smaller 'barrel' on him than his 4th edition descendant. In addition he has the ape-like arms and the middle pair of limbs is reaching up to grasp the sac. The one in the blister's not a 4th edition biovore. For one, the 4th edition blighter came in a box.

Ah, it was the ape arms on both the 3rd and 4th edition biovores that were tripping me up.

DarkStarSabre wrote:Nope. There was not a partial release. All the 3rd ed. Tyranids came out with their codex - Gaunts, Warriors, Carnifex, Hive Tyrant, Zoanthropes, Raveners, Gargoyles, Biovores and Lictor, as well as Old One Eye and the Red Terror. In fact, the only staggering was the Carnifex and the SCs coming out about 1 or 2 months after the rest.

There could be some confusion that the 'nids were the 2nd 4th edition army - which has given us the current Carnifex, Hive Tyrant, Biovores, Zoanthropes and Lictors. At the same time they also released 'newer' metal Raveners, since superseded by their plastic 5th edition release.

That's probably where my confusion is coming from, I distinctly remember some models coming out after the initial release, but before 4th edition. I'm probably conflating the special characters and carnifex with the 4th edition models. For some reason, I was certain we didn't get much in 4th edition (I've only picked up a handful of nid models since 3rd - mostly plastic hormies to replace my old badly balanced metal ones).

That said, you'll note I was only wrong about the Lictor and partially the Biovore (so hardly "so far off the mark it isn't funny").

Sadly I have only 3 Hive Guards since newest codex release (+ codex)
I'm really sad that Tyranids got plastics for what they don't use (not counting Trygon)

No wonder I forgot Raveners were in 3rd edition. The models are so hideous I must have forced them from memory.

Spellscape wrote:Sadly I have only 3 Hive Guards since newest codex release (+ codex)
I'm really sad that Tyranids got plastics for what they don't use (not counting Trygon)

If you don't use Gargoyles in 5th edition, you're doing it wrong.

I love my 2nd edition 'Nid models, they;re so much nicer to look at and don't make me claw out my eyes like the 3rd ed grinning ones.

I love the old tyranids models, except for these... IIRC they're the 2nd edition tyranid warriors.
Way too ugly, have like 5 of them still on sprue though.

Those warriors date back to advanced space crusade. They're older than 2nd edition.

Those are the metal Tyranid Warriors - the very first Tyranid Warrior models - from the RT days.

Nope those are plastic, they are, as has been said, originally from Advanced Space Crusade and later in the Terminators and Tyranids set and Tyranid Attack.

The metal RT tyranid can be seen in the RT book and kinda looks like a big gaunt, I never saw one outside the rulebook:



The metal warrior that replaced the Advanced Space Crusade looked like this and was the 2nd edition incarnation:



I love the nid range, i remember when Advanced Space Crusade came out it was actually a big revelation that the genestealers were actually a vanguard of a nid invasion.

I really liked the change to 3rd edition, the current plastic warriors are still some of the best looking plastics in 40k, I really liked the 3rd ed carnifex but prefer the newest version.

Have really enjoyed this thread.

edit!! - turns out I am wrong and HBMC is indeed correct. I had completely forgotten that a metal version of the plastic nid warrior existed before 2nd ed! looking at the pic those would indeed me metal:

Actually, HBMC is correct. Those are the -metal- ones. Don't make me dig out the old White Dwarf that had the very first Tyranid army list that included Squig Swarms to back it up.

Both were available at the time - but those ones in the picture are metal. They've sharper claws and more detail than their dumpy plastic brothers. The warriors in the picture there are the second incarnation of metal warriors!

thats right Darkstarsabre - please read my whole post

I have. You literally edited it at the exact same time I posted that. Naughty sleazy! No cookie for you!

haha, whats the chances eh? Yep just after I posted I had a nagging feeling I was wrong so did a bit of research and found the images.

Cheers!

pretre wrote:Not quite as bad as the RT Nids, but close.

I feel like everyone's talking about me in this thread.



(my original username was "RiTides Nids")

IcyCool wrote:

compdrag wrote:

I'm betting this is the metal 3rd edition "Clown Face" Hive tyrant:

It looks like a Foregeworld hive tyrant to me the one with the venom cannon, I might well be wrong!

Yep. I'm wrong, it's better than the 4th ed one though!